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08/01 - Red Rocks - Morrison, CO - Post-Show Discussion and Review

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Hicks

Quote from: blatboom on August 04, 2009, 06:07:00 PM
Quote from: VA slim on August 04, 2009, 06:02:48 PM
just listened through tube. i def need to stop listening to these sbds., they make everything sound so harsh.
if someone can rec a good audience, LMK.
anyway, even though its a stretch i still think i hear, as i did at the show, trey playing the lick to "takes a train to cry" before BAG. yeah its a dylan tune, but it also was in the GD/JGB rotation.
hand signal banter after curtain with?
still no confirmation on the moonwalk?
was i dreaming?
and i still have to check on teh low rider teases in disease, but i'm fairly sure they were there.

I've only listened to the Disease once so far but I thought I heard a brief low rider tease.

That was definitely there, even though Trey refused to play the hook outright, the bastard.   :wink:
Quote from: Trey Anastasio
But, I don't think our fans do happily lap it up, I think they go online and talk about how it was a bad show.

G. Augusto


fauxpaxfauxreal

Quote from: whatapiper on August 04, 2009, 02:59:31 AM
i love how they take there time with the "rift" portion at the end of curtain and the beginning of "with" really soars, i hope this song stays a frequent in rotation, why not?


Ugh.

I'm not going to take the time to cut and paste what I said in the live setlist thread...

...but count me in the camp that likes his Curtains "With-out".

Basically, I like my rift part in rift, I like my reba part in reba, and I like the concise version because it perfectly pumps you up for a big jam tune to follow.

I will be happy if/when they stop playing the "With".

sophist

Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 05, 2009, 03:51:42 PM
Quote from: whatapiper on August 04, 2009, 02:59:31 AM
i love how they take there time with the "rift" portion at the end of curtain and the beginning of "with" really soars, i hope this song stays a frequent in rotation, why not?


Ugh.

I'm not going to take the time to cut and paste what I said in the live setlist thread...

...but count me in the camp that likes his Curtains "With-out".

Basically, I like my rift part in rift, I like my reba part in reba, and I like the concise version because it perfectly pumps you up for a big jam tune to follow.

I will be happy if/when they stop playing the "With".
Grammar: B

Content:  D- 

Overall:  C-
Can we talk about the Dead?  I'd love to talk about the fucking Grateful Dead, for once, can we please discuss the Grateful FUCKING Dead!?!?!?!

fauxpaxfauxreal

Quote from: Sophist on August 05, 2009, 03:59:21 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 05, 2009, 03:51:42 PM
Quote from: whatapiper on August 04, 2009, 02:59:31 AM
i love how they take there time with the "rift" portion at the end of curtain and the beginning of "with" really soars, i hope this song stays a frequent in rotation, why not?


Ugh.

I'm not going to take the time to cut and paste what I said in the live setlist thread...

...but count me in the camp that likes his Curtains "With-out".

Basically, I like my rift part in rift, I like my reba part in reba, and I like the concise version because it perfectly pumps you up for a big jam tune to follow.

I will be happy if/when they stop playing the "With".
Grammar: B

Content:  D- 

Overall:  C-

I passed!

rowjimmy

Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 05, 2009, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: Sophist on August 05, 2009, 03:59:21 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 05, 2009, 03:51:42 PM
Quote from: whatapiper on August 04, 2009, 02:59:31 AM
i love how they take there time with the "rift" portion at the end of curtain and the beginning of "with" really soars, i hope this song stays a frequent in rotation, why not?


Ugh.

I'm not going to take the time to cut and paste what I said in the live setlist thread...

...but count me in the camp that likes his Curtains "With-out".

Basically, I like my rift part in rift, I like my reba part in reba, and I like the concise version because it perfectly pumps you up for a big jam tune to follow.

I will be happy if/when they stop playing the "With".
Grammar: B

Content:  D- 

Overall:  C-

I passed!

Nope.
That post was a total fail. Curtain With is the tits.

susep

Quote from: rowjimmy on August 05, 2009, 09:50:31 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 05, 2009, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: Sophist on August 05, 2009, 03:59:21 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 05, 2009, 03:51:42 PM
Quote from: whatapiper on August 04, 2009, 02:59:31 AM
i love how they take there time with the "rift" portion at the end of curtain and the beginning of "with" really soars, i hope this song stays a frequent in rotation, why not?


Ugh.

I'm not going to take the time to cut and paste what I said in the live setlist thread...

...but count me in the camp that likes his Curtains "With-out".

Basically, I like my rift part in rift, I like my reba part in reba, and I like the concise version because it perfectly pumps you up for a big jam tune to follow.

I will be happy if/when they stop playing the "With".
Grammar: B

Content:  D- 

Overall:  C-

I passed!

Nope.
That post was a total fail. Curtain With is the tits.

agreed, as I listened to this Curtain W/ I wondered if it would be as good as DC '00?  Possibly and the idea that they were playing it still relatively new in Aug.88, their first visit to CO made this version that much sweeter.

fauxpaxfauxreal

I prefer my Curtains without.

I obviously have a more sophisticated palate than you n00bs.


joeldiesel

Could be just me hearing things i wanna hear, but at the end of DwD there is some serious 'Watermelon Man' action in there from Mike. 

sls.stormyrider

Quote from: rowjimmy on August 05, 2009, 09:50:31 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 05, 2009, 04:00:00 PM
Quote from: Sophist on August 05, 2009, 03:59:21 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 05, 2009, 03:51:42 PM
Quote from: whatapiper on August 04, 2009, 02:59:31 AM
i love how they take there time with the "rift" portion at the end of curtain and the beginning of "with" really soars, i hope this song stays a frequent in rotation, why not?


Ugh.

I'm not going to take the time to cut and paste what I said in the live setlist thread...

...but count me in the camp that likes his Curtains "With-out".

Basically, I like my rift part in rift, I like my reba part in reba, and I like the concise version because it perfectly pumps you up for a big jam tune to follow.

I will be happy if/when they stop playing the "With".
Grammar: B

Content:  D- 

Overall:  C-

I passed!

Nope.
That post was a total fail. Curtain With is the tits.
yessir
"toss away stuff you don't need in the end
but keep what's important, and know who's your friend"
"It's a 106 miles to Chicago. We got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."

susep

1Aug.2009


Source: B&K4022 (ortf) > Sonosax > 744T
Location: ots/dfc
Transfer: 744T>wavelab (fades/resampling/dithering)>cd wave>flac
Taped & transferred by Craig Davis



I

Bag - definite gamehendge aura at RR I'm sure, much improved sound over the two previous sources, "lets get this show on the road" elicts cheers, change in recording near 2:58, better, good opening.

The Cutrain W/ - jam opens near 8:30, was surprised to see it on the setlist, preety sweet for 2nd slot, tight jam, fast, Mike is sick and consistent, Fish playing well, he's defintely turned a corner, nice Page, Trey into trill-out, waves crashing, nice version(nearly 21 years earlier busting this one out as well in CO.).

Mound - appropriately enough, nice bust out, trippy Trey, hearing this reminds me of back in the day listening to '94 cassettes, Mike sounds preety loud on this one, no distortion mostly clean sound, this tune reminds me of the west, trippy subtle Page, Page bringing it home, nice.

Jibboo - jam open nears 2:59, loop tease by Trey, very light in background, Mike ever so subtly adding variations which makes his linear parts and the song/jam more interesting, almost stately opening, more looseness in this jam more then I've heard in awhile, solid version.

Guyute - the ugly Pig.

PYITE - not a big fan of this tune, I do like Landlady as a solo piece but we all have them, this is one of my meh Phish songs.

Tube - overall a preety consistent set this far, the last Tube I enjoyed hearing was JB, Page strong and varied out of the tube, nice funk riffage, not overtly excessive, patient which is really the hallmark of these RR shows, a patient, subtle Phish but still w/ tremendous power and energy, good jam but maybe I'm kind of bored w/ this #

Alaska - vaudville Trey, segue way into Say, Say, Say?

Antelope - ser last good Antelope I've heard was Hampton '09, nice opening, Mike is the man, again recording is preety titty, Mike initiating risk, weird jam around 5:00, a reflection on Trey's 93-94 listening no doubt, jam slows and morphs slightly as if on cue w/ my last statement > trying to build tension underneath, no real theme, similar to previous nights Melt in its free jamming, quickly ascends, moans, cries, back into 'lope proper, the first real risk taking of the night, weird jamming before Rocco, near New Orleans vibe, Trey goes back into trill into Rocco, interesting version.


II

Rock and Roll - jam opens near 4:34, nice opening, great energy by all, Fishman prominent, Trey and Mike deviating slightly, Mike thumping along, jam remains linear still h/e, Mike kicking ass per usual, slight Gin tease near 9:20, nice momentum near 9:50 jam settles in, start/stop, Trey w/ Wentian like tone, watery Mike, Page on the clav, jam is like their jamming on an ending theme, weird ending, solo Mike, into

DwD - jam opens up at 3:35 after a previous slight flub in Trey's outro riff, I think he extendeed it another measure to repeat/cover, this tune still being the most consistent jam of 3.0, solid linear jamming out of the gate, Page rocking the clav underneath near 5:45, Mike and Fish hitting it hard, reminding of Japan 00, Mike driving the jam, slightly ahead of the beat by a nano-second, jam mellows around 7:16, riff/tease?, nice downshift into a Trey trill led jam, pace quickens, Bob Weir esque Trey, laying down the clank, out of that Trey, Mike and Page play around this theme, nice subtle jamming here, optimistic vibe but w/ that Phish "x" factor, this jam feels more realized and probably the result of rehearsal jamming, 11:52 in still nice Clifford Ball esque jam, after '09 DwD will be a prime candidate for mix material, punchy mellowness, nice jam into

Free - classic combination at this point going back to 26June95, as usual solid jam, punctual.

what do I hear?  oh yeah baby... circus theme into

Esther - slight wind which supports the story for well, easily my fav. Phish song, not a super huge fan of composed tunes that don't deviate ala Fluffhead but this one is a masterwork, slight off tempo, not quite perfect but still fun to hear, no real flubs but first time in almost 9 years, cool nirvana esque work into the nasty part of town, good Trey solo minus the last 2 or 3 notes, really got chills hearing that.

Dirt - time to pack one.

Hood - first of the run, jam opens near 6:00, sound of smething crashing/falling near taper, solid opening, quick pace, patient Trey and Mike, spinning ideas off one another, similar to the Garcia/Lesh dynamic, Trey nicely in front, slight '94/'95 expressiveness, Fish eager underneath, almost 10:00 in jam continues to ascend incrementally, nothing too outrageous, solid version.

E

Monkee - interesting choice, solid version.

First Tube - nice way to end the show w/ a bang!, Phish pulling the ying and yang, this augments any set anywhere, solid version this far at 3:07, it would be cool to hear Mike improvise his bass line but it might throw it off, this tune nearly celebrating its 10 year Phish Anniv. although everyone knows it goes back to early '98 w/ Trey's 8Foot Tubes, nice crescendo of cacophony, Trey no longer using his backwards effect pedal for his leads which is cool and different to hear, subtle deviations by Mike towards outro, preety good version.

Overall a nice continuation of the previous 2 RR shows, I really liked the Curtain W/, DwD, the first Esther in nearly 9 years although the middle section was slightly off, still killer to hear and, a rocking First Tube to end.  Again a solid B+ for this show!

VA $l!m

listening to the b&K's now, glad i grabbed this source. been really only lstening to the boards from this tour, but after seeing these shows and enjoying them so much i really was bummed by the sound i heard once i got back and listened to the boards. they just done sound like the way things sound live... i dunno.
anyway, this TUBE is heat. mike was so on this entire run. i could just listen to his bass from these shows and be happy.
-I'm still walkin', so i'm sure that I can dance-

Superfreakie

Quote from: VA slim on August 07, 2009, 07:46:17 PM
listening to the b&K's now, glad i grabbed this source. been really only lstening to the boards from this tour, but after seeing these shows and enjoying them so much i really was bummed by the sound i heard once i got back and listened to the boards. they just done sound like the way things sound live... i dunno.
anyway, this TUBE is heat. mike was so on this entire run. i could just listen to his bass from these shows and be happy.


WHY ARE YOU LISTENING TO BOARDS WHEN WE HAVE AUDS THAT SOUND  :wtu:   I HEREBY COMMAND YOU TO STOP :frustrated:    :wink:
Que te vaya bien, que te vaya bien, Te quiero más que las palabras pueden decir.

VA $l!m

Quote from: Superfreakie on August 07, 2009, 07:50:39 PM
Quote from: VA slim on August 07, 2009, 07:46:17 PM
listening to the b&K's now, glad i grabbed this source. been really only lstening to the boards from this tour, but after seeing these shows and enjoying them so much i really was bummed by the sound i heard once i got back and listened to the boards. they just done sound like the way things sound live... i dunno.
anyway, this TUBE is heat. mike was so on this entire run. i could just listen to his bass from these shows and be happy.


WHY ARE YOU LISTENING TO BOARDS WHEN WE HAVE AUDS THAT SOUND  :wtu:   I HEREBY COMMAND YOU TO STOP :frustrated:    :wink:

:roll: i dunno... guess i'm just stubborn. comes from years of being a GD SBD snob. also the fact that since i pretty much ignored PH2.0 i've not had the chance to really listen to phish boards since 93 or whenever it was that they stopped leaking/circulating them.
-I'm still walkin', so i'm sure that I can dance-