underrated? fall 99

[mopper_smurf]

Yes Albany was good.....I was WAYYYYYY spun and most of those 2 shows made my face melt.....IIRC the Maze was en fuego and it was a blast watching it from behind the stage.....

Marmar can hear the sounds of the future. Better believe him when he posts something in the Rumor Mill thread.

[Marmar]

wait...scratch that...I'm thinking of albany 2000

[Marmar]

ok....just listened to the 9-12 Gin and 9-22 Gin.

9-12 is a decent Gin. Nothing that really stands out though. Fully type I. IMHO there's really nothing to write home about with this Gin....pretty standard fare, and very tame by 1.0 standards.

9-22 the breakdown before the 6 minute mark is cool. 8 minutes in and I'm getting bored......pickin up steam at 11....ok, 13 in and now it's HOSE.....still very type I, but it's smoking compared to 9-12. Those last 5 minutes are why I exist, even though it's based on THE riff I learned to hate....ya know, that riff I am always sayin that was in EVERY jam in from 99-00...ya, it's there.

The clear winner is 9-22. Even though it comes out slow and boring at times, the point when they all hook up to the end MORE than makes up for it. 9-12 is more solid out of the gate, but it never gains momentum like 9-22 does.

[Buffalo Budd]

just to make the point because many others in this thread have done the same thing... but december is NOT fall... so therefore, rochester isn't a fall show.  and yes, it was a pretty lame show... yet still not in the fall.

fall tour went from  9/9/99 - 10/10/99 ... that december run started 12/2/99... and features lots of loops

just to make another point, the Winter solstice isn't until December 21, and therefore all of the shows before Big Cypress are "Fall", and in my mind are Leg 2 of Fall '99

that said, I don't think anyone has mentioned the Albany 2001 from Oct 9.  Totally awesome.

Also, the Dec 8 CCCC YEM has been mentioned, but not yet mentioned in this thread is my favorite parts of the Dec 8 show...  Ya Mar and Piper.  Both totally awesome.  Sill the best Ya Mar ever, in my opinion.

IT would like a word with you, Jason.

Having attended both, I'm gonna have to side with sobel on this one.
I really should have included it in my previous post.

[sunrisevt]

You're dead to me, Aaron.

[jasonsobel]

just to make the point because many others in this thread have done the same thing... but december is NOT fall... so therefore, rochester isn't a fall show.  and yes, it was a pretty lame show... yet still not in the fall.

fall tour went from  9/9/99 - 10/10/99 ... that december run started 12/2/99... and features lots of loops

just to make another point, the Winter solstice isn't until December 21, and therefore all of the shows before Big Cypress are "Fall", and in my mind are Leg 2 of Fall '99

that said, I don't think anyone has mentioned the Albany 2001 from Oct 9.  Totally awesome.

Also, the Dec 8 CCCC YEM has been mentioned, but not yet mentioned in this thread is my favorite parts of the Dec 8 show...  Ya Mar and Piper.  Both totally awesome.  Still the best Ya Mar ever, in my opinion.

IT would like a word with you, Jason.

I just spent the past 32 minutes listening to both the IT Ya Mar and the CCCC 12/8/99 Ya Mar.  It was a few minutes longer, but CCCC was more interesting, better, and way more psychedelic.  I stand by my statement.  

edit to add: I was also in attendance for both, so I'm not biased in that regard either.

[Buffalo Budd]

You're dead to me, Aaron.

:evil:

[jedifunk]

just to make the point because many others in this thread have done the same thing... but december is NOT fall... so therefore, rochester isn't a fall show.  and yes, it was a pretty lame show... yet still not in the fall.

fall tour went from  9/9/99 - 10/10/99 ... that december run started 12/2/99... and features lots of loops

just to make another point, the Winter solstice isn't until December 21, and therefore all of the shows before Big Cypress are "Fall", and in my mind are Leg 2 of Fall '99

that said, I don't think anyone has mentioned the Albany 2001 from Oct 9.  Totally awesome.

Also, the Dec 8 CCCC YEM has been mentioned, but not yet mentioned in this thread is my favorite parts of the Dec 8 show...  Ya Mar and Piper.  Both totally awesome.  Sill the best Ya Mar ever, in my opinion.

perhaps its just within my circle then that a clear distinction is made between fall 99 and what is referred to as the december run... either way, i think the music itself is vastly different

[Nedstruzz]

Agree with the CCCC Ya Mar.  I remember being behind the stage for that section of set 1 and thinking that Fishman was killing it on his kit for Ya Mar.  I'll need to go back and listen again. 

Overall 99 was a lost year for me and Phish.  Saw a bunch of shows but nothing really jumped out as exceptional.  I think 2000 as a whole was much better but you all might disagree.

[VDB]

I just took the Gin challenge. Both are monsters; can't believe I wasn't more familiar with them. It's too early to declare a winner but I'll respectfully disagree with Mar about 9/12 not being notable.

And I do have to say, I miss this guitarist.

[VDB]

The Sand and Ghost from 9/22 both smoke too.

[Augustus]

Don't forget the 09-12 GHOST!

[GBL]

And I do have to say, I miss this guitarist.

But they want you to be happy!

[jedifunk]

Don't forget the 09-12 GHOST!

this

top 5 IMO

[VDB]

And I do have to say, I miss this guitarist.

But they want you to be happy!

I am.

But I would be happier.