My views on the community

[jedifunk]

YES, wouldnt that be the shit!  a week4paug dance party in the funk trench of deer creek!

[birdman]

YES, wouldnt that be the shit!  a week4paug dance party in the funk trench of deer creek!

-birdman quickly reserves two open ended tickets to Indianapolis....- See ya there

[VA $l!m]

i'm gonna go purchase a disco bus right now!!

[birdman]

Ill bring the boom box and all my ODB CDs

[jedifunk]

:-D

[August]

could you really imagine the four of us on tour?!

who would we eat first?
a

[jedifunk]

mmmm, i love grilled lot trash

[birdman]

 :-D :-D :-D
Kind Veggie lot trash that is. 3 for 5.

[August]

ICY KOLD NECK JUICE!!!!
a

[jedifunk]

1 for 3
2 for 5

or

what the fuck its only a buck (maybe my favorite tagline)

[gimmetela]

could you really imagine the four of us on tour?!

who would we eat first?
a

could i be a fly in the car? :evil: :wink:

[gimmetela]

Seriously, I did my fair share of work on the lot.  I made my money, I bought my tix...I partied.

"creepazoid?"  Slim, I doubt it seriously that you are one.  (are you talking about my "wastoid?"--classic dee word--strange vernacular...)  The people I was referencing prolly haven't found their way to the 'paug.  You know the ones, you feel them coming from about 10 feet away...they never went into the shows, usually had something shitty to say, and were scheming on how to rip you off...

[VA $l!m]

Seriously, I did my fair share of work on the lot.  I made my money, I bought my tix...I partied.

"creepazoid?"  Slim, I doubt it seriously that you are one.  (are you talking about my "wastoid?"--classic dee word--strange vernacular...)  The people I was referencing prolly haven't found their way to the 'paug.  You know the ones, you feel them coming from about 10 feet away...they never went into the shows, usually had something shitty to say, and were scheming on how to rip you off...

no, not you...
"creepazoid" was the term faux paux used.

[fauxpaxfauxreal]

seriously, -seriously though, the thing about "the lot got shady" or whatever-- or the "creepazoids" (-wow , where did that word come from?) hanging onto tour...

i just think some of ya'll are acting holier than thou about the whole thing...

i'll leave it at that, but i dunno...

Well, I never swung drugs at phish shows.  I never got that grimy.   Or any of that.

And I'm not trying to be holier than thou.

But, there was a definite grimy element to the scene gaining momentum beginning in Fall 95.  Sure elements of it were there....but I encountered my first "spangers" my first full time drug dealers and my first experience seeing people hanging out in the parking lot without any intention of even going to the show during Fall 95.  Fall 96 I experienced my first "shakedown"... and Fall 1997 was the first time I found myself completely disgusted with the behavior of some of my fellow fans. 

When I first saw Phish, the parking lot was a lot of fun...kind of like tailgating at a ball game.  People throwing frisbees...music blaring...people grilling...just good times.  I would have felt completely fine bringing a young child into that environment...by the end....I began to fear for my safety (at times), much less the safety of any young children that might have possibly were around.

And maybe it's judgemental...but I kind of think about life like this...if you aren't someone that I would feel comfortable with living in my neighborhood...I might consider you a creepazoid.  I'd say on the average my phish shows were rather positive experiences, but yes, a lot of the fans WERE creeps.  And the creeps definitely bring the experience down (imo).

That's it.

And yes, I'm not making judgements on anyone here.  I'm surprised at how many people here did "work" in the lot, however.  Even though I was very custy like (dressed pretty normally...brought money from home...etc.), I tried my hardest not to support the parking lot drug trade as I found it to be one of the things that I found distasteful about phish shows.  I did on the other hand fully support the juice and food trades.... I also normally brought my alcohol with me.

Anyone who has witnessed an assault, dog abuse, theft, etc on tour know that there are definitely some creepazoids.

Not to mention the people that bang some H only to wake up dead on the floor of their hotie.

[gimmetela]

no drugs here, bumper stickers, jewlery, and handmade dresses... :wink: