60GB iPod is overkill

[jedifunk]

the problem with microsoft, is that they don't make the best product out of any of their stuff...  save from perhaps the xbox 360...

everything they make is inferior

anyhoo, this is getting off topic

[Marmar]

the problem with microsoft, is that they don't make the best product out of any of their stuff...  save from perhaps the xbox 360...

everything they make is inferior

anyhoo, this is getting off topic

Nuh uh......the make the best computers if you want one that works when it feels like it, crashes often, looses all your important data, and is overloaded with useless bloat to bog it down even more with its already hogged resources.

they are HANDS DOWN the BEST at that.

[jedifunk]

+k for the microsoft dig!

[mattstick]

the problem with microsoft, is that they don't make the best product out of any of their stuff...  save from perhaps the xbox 360...

What is better than MS Office?

[jedifunk]

What is better than MS Office?

anything other than MS Office...

i'm forced to use it at work, but i wouldnt install it on my powerbook for anything under $1000.

[mattstick]

I guess I use it because it's the standard - but I don't have any major issues with Word or Excel for basic report writing.

[jedifunk]

no, i dont either...  but i'm always the anti-microsoft

and i really dont have any need to have word/excel on my mac.  if i need to type a letter textedit is more than capable, and i have about 0% need for excel

[mattstick]

You could always use openoffice  http://openoffice.org

[mattstick]

I have a registered copy of Office, so I don't mind saying that I have a version of MS Office 2003 that is only 78MB! 

[mattstick]

http://blog.wired.com/music/2006/12/zune_users_hard.html

Thursday, 14 December 2006
Zune Users Hard to Find for Wireless Sharing
Topic: Things

\I've carried my Zune onto a NY subway on a number of occasions, and tried to find other Zune users to share songs with, but I've struck out every time.  Although Microsoft expects to sell one million Zunes by the end of next June, there just aren't enough of them around yet in order for the sharing feature to make sense (which is why I think the Zune will be popular first in schools and other places where there's a high density of potential Zune owners).

CNET's Ina Fried says she finally ran into another Zune user in San Francisco... but that the wireless transfer of an R.E.M. song didn't go through to a guy watching the Family Guy on his Zune.  Only time will tell whether the density of Zune users will eventually get to the point when you can readily find people to share stuff with.

[jedifunk]

i thought that was what oink was for.... sharing

[Casey Lenahan]

does oink have programing sharing as well?

if so someone needs to get me in there  :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

[jephrey]

I use excel a TON, and I think it's alright.  Unfortunately, there's really no good alternative so as far as that goes, I give M$ a thumbs up.  I really don't need Word for much at home (I use pages or textedit), but since I have to know the office suite at work, I use Word, Access, PowerPoint, Excel and Visio.  I replace them all at home except for Excel with something that I feel is better. 

I don't know.  It's software.  Who cares!

J

[tet]

to chime in on this thread tangent...

i happen to love Word and Excel for Mac - i use them daily for business and never have a problem with cross-platform documents between us and Africa.  all of our presentations are done with iWork, which kicks ass for graphical layout, but when i need to read or write an Office document or a spreadsheet, i have no qualms about using Office for Mac.  v.X was a bit of a disappointment, but Office 2004 is great.   Plus, Entourage is my primary email client now that it has full Spotlight integration and .Mac syncing.  It's clunky, yes, but the Project Management tools are unbeatable.  it's very easy to handle large volumes of email, which I must in my business.

hell, I even run Office 2004 in Rosetta emulation on my Intel Macs, and it's not only stable but very very fast! 

[jedifunk]

i have no problem with office either... i just don't use it

mainly because i have less use for it.

but here's an interesting, and upsetting (for mac users) article about the upcoming release of office 07
http://www.macworld.com/2006/12/opinion/microsoft/index.php