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R1/W01: 08-07-1993 Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, Darien Center, NY

Started by jedifunk, May 16, 2006, 09:06:46 PM

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August

#15
Quote from: jedifunk on May 17, 2006, 11:53:55 AM
quick question for aug... are the sendspace mp3s entire sets or individual songs?  not that it matters...

i'm home sick today :( so i should have plenty of time to listen and respond

they are each complete set in a zip folder.
so they are individual songs once you extract it.

set two has the encore as well.
feel betta!
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Hicks

#16
First off, huge 1993 fan here, it's always an internal debate over whether I like 93 better than 97, although it's really an apples, oranges thing.

I just love how in 93 shows you actually can hear them discovering the techniques and elements that make them the incredible band they ultimately became.  To me listening to 93 shows is kind of like having a front row seat to history in the making, because in a way this is where THE Phish began, I would say this year is the first where we are actually listening to "modern Phish", rather than Phish the college band or Phish the bar band.  They were making leaps and bounds during many of these shows, and for me this is one of those shows.

So the first three songs are well played, but for me the show really starts with . . .

Stash, I absolutely love this version.  What struck me this morning is how restrained Trey actually is throughout this version.  Listen to how quietly he plays his notes during the clapping segment.  Then at the beginning of the jam he just plays a simple three note pattern, leaving Page room to do some nice runs up and down the keyboard.  The three note pattern turns into four notes, then five, until eventually he's going nuts and the crescendo back into the composed outro is some ecstatic peak Phish for me, and I think the way he took his time building the jam is near perfection. The crowd goes wild and Trey is absolutely wailing until unexpectedly they bring it back down for. . .

Makisupa, nothing too crazy, but I love how even way back then they were already doing ambient layering effects in songs like this, of course since this is 93 it morphs quickly into Reba.  Another thing I love about 93 is that it's short attention span Phish, don't like a jam or song?  Wait 30 seconds it'll change up!  :-D

Reba, don't have too much to say about this one just your typical 93 near perfection.   :wink:

But I do love they way they do the whistling over the Maze intro.  My favorite Phish segues remind me of crossfaded DJ mixes and this one gives me that feeling big time, Reba really is "mixed" into Maze. 

Maze, at this point you've got to be noticing that this set is a scorcher, Bouncin' is the only potential "break" song here and how can you really argue with it in the second position in the first set?  This is a hot Maze, again Trey's solo sounds very concise to me, no wasted notes, and no fumbling around trying to find the right note like I've heard him do on some later versions, he nails the peak perfectly, as he always did back then.  A pretty fast Maze for 93 as well.

Forbin's>Mockingbird, are you kidding me?  If they played all these songs in a first set anytime after 96 people would have sh*t themselves!  I love this narration, up there with some of my other favorites like 12-30-93, 12-31-92, 9-30-00 etc. 

Typical (fun) Cavern closer, with nice little runs from Trey between verses.

All in all incredible first set, it doesn't get much better than this, oh wait actually it does in set II . .  .

Quote from: Trey Anastasio
But, I don't think our fans do happily lap it up, I think they go online and talk about how it was a bad show.

August

jedi..
maybe we can make that first post of your the Master Thread?

have each weeks selection-with the name of the selector along with the
sendspace links for the show.

and up top could always be...This Week's Pick....

whaddaya think?
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Gumbo72203

I havent checked the other post where the idea was generated, but it makes me really happy that you guys chose to actually do 8/7/93.  It just feels mad cool that now all these people are taking the time to check out a show that i've adored and wanted other people to hear ever since i first started listening to Phish. 

For me, this show is all about the 2nd set Kung>Mike's Reprise.  Its just so badass how they go from the Kung weirdness right back into Mike's Hose Rage.  ahhh i love it
"Just drink some water, and breathe through your nose."  -Slim, 3/7/09


Quote from: redrum on April 04, 2010, 07:45:51 PM
%% with alternated lyrics about a 1995 jeep cherokee that was also sacraficed on this tour.

Quote from: blatboom on November 04, 2012, 08:46:54 PM
I think I got it but he's such a spaz he'll probably never open this thread again

gainesvillegreen

Great idea folks...

I really like this show, and when I want to hear something from this month, I usually pick this up along with a couple of others.  Stash, for me, is the highlight of the show.  It is a great second set, and I, too, like the Reba (better than 8/12/93 imo), but I always listen to this Stash repeatedly whenever this show is in rotation...

Again, great idea...looking forward to the next installment!

August

Quote from: Gumbo72203 on May 17, 2006, 01:27:59 PM
I havent checked the other post where the idea was generated, but it makes me really happy that you guys chose to actually do 8/7/93.  It just feels mad cool that now all these people are taking the time to check out a show that i've adored and wanted other people to hear ever since i first started listening to Phish. 

thats what it is all about!
great show!
A

mopper_smurf

#21
Just finished listening to Set 1. Props to Page!

Llama is just llama, a reliable beast for the band to ride on and get things going.

Nice walking bass lines for Bouncin'

Poor Heart - I LOVE that song. And so does my little boy. We danced around, and danced, and danced, and I had to repeat the song three times  Hey, he's mad about Mike. Good for him.

Stash is still a grower at this stage. But man, this one gets pretty big around the 9 minute mark!

Makisupa Policeman - nothing special.

Maze lacked punch IMO.

Reba rolls and tumbles. No real risks, but solid. The composed sections are ... well .. composed

Col. Forbin's Ascent. It takes off, the band is climbing along with the subjec matter.

I want that Rollercoaster book that Fishman supposedly had! Great narration by Trey and then straight into Fly Famous Mockingbird.

Cavern is always a good choice before intermission. Hit the bar and get into a conversation of what Set II is going to be.

(will let you know tomorrow - now I am gonna watch the European club teams final - Barcelona vs. Arsenal - Dutchmen on both sides, so I will always come up a winner)
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fauxpaxfauxreal



Ok, I too have just finished listening to the first set... And I have to say this is a fun little first set.  I don't know if anyone was at the Darien Lake show for this one (I assume not, because nobody has said as much).  But, I assume that this was an outdoor show where they solely utilized the pavilion without a lawn.  Seems like an intimate crowd, since there isn't much crowd noise (except for the bouncin' clapper  :roll:)  This is a great sounding FOB that opens in explosive fashion with Llama.  Llama presses depresses taboot taboot.  And you can tell this is going to be a fun show... nice little jam...nothing too wild... nothing too crazy.  And Bouncin' follows it up.  I don't know why Bouncin' gets so much hate, because it fucking rocks.  Nine times out of ten, I would rather hear a 3 minute Bouncing than a 30 minute Jibboo.  Bouncing has great lyrics, a great melody a good beat and sounds really good.  Great song.  If Trey's pop songs all sounded like Bouncing... I might actually like Shine :)  And then all of a sudden we get a Stash.  Stash was one of my original "favorite" phish tunes.  And was a great great tune that peaked too soon.  In 93, it smoked, however, and this one doesn't dissapoint.  The jam is dissonantly dizzily melodic and the band is hitting it on all cylinders.  I think the segue kind of hurt the tune however, and would have preffered a climatic huge ending.  This stash had so much potential and kind of just petered out into Makisupa.  Nobody so far has mentioned the Stash vocals tease during the Makisupa, which I thought was very very cute. 

The true star of this set is the Reba.  Man, that is a GREAT Reba.  It isn't "over the top".  But, it sounds GORGEOUS.  The band hits the jam with everything they got.  Effortlessly and egolessly.  I will definitely keep this Reba around.  I like it.  I like it alot.  Reba just sounds so nice.  The segue into maze is "cute", but doesn't really sound "good".  The whistling actually sounds really shitty.  I don't like it musically, but I think it's funny as hell.  For those that like this kind of segue into maze, definitely check out the Lake Placid 1995 Bouncing-->Maze.  The beginning of Maze features the ending triplet solo from Bouncing looped and superimposed over the opening Maze drumbeat, and it sounds sweet as hell.  One of my favorite Maze openings ever.  Maze is maze, and a good version at that. 

I love Forbins.  This version doesn't dissapoint.  Good tune, flawlessly played.  The narration, in my opinion, is really really lame.  Lamest Forbins narration I've heard.  It just doesn't make any sense in the context of the tune.  I like rollercoasters...but yeah... the narration was silly.  This is, I think MY FAVORITE MOCKINGBIRD.  Mockingbird is hit PERFECTLY.  I love the ending part.  And Trey FLYS THROUGH his arpeggios.  This is the kind of Mockingbird that makes me love Phish.  Good Mockingbird.

And then the set closes out with Cavern.  Good, evil version.  Me likes it.

All in all the first set is tight, but not outrageous.  I think it's an averagely good first set.  A couple of highlights...but nothing too far over the top.  The segues look good on paper, but sound kind of forced and detract from the vibe and music at the show...

But, the Reba and Mockingbird SMOKE!

Gumbo72203

you really dont like the narration Faux?  I think its wonderful; one of the few narrations ive heard that actually take you for a ride (no pun intended).  Pack up a bongload, sit back and close your eyes, and you can actually feel yourself on the rollercoaster, guided by Trey's voice and the genius backing music (Fish's snare click-clack is perfect). 

I'm glad you like the Reba though.  I too believe this to be one of the most beautiful Reba's ever, right up there with 11/20/92 (the only Reba jam, or Phish jam period, where Trey actually successfully manages to make his guitar sound like its actually weeping or crying....  so sick)
"Just drink some water, and breathe through your nose."  -Slim, 3/7/09


Quote from: redrum on April 04, 2010, 07:45:51 PM
%% with alternated lyrics about a 1995 jeep cherokee that was also sacraficed on this tour.

Quote from: blatboom on November 04, 2012, 08:46:54 PM
I think I got it but he's such a spaz he'll probably never open this thread again

jephrey

My notes...

Llama - Hot as always.  Not much special with this one.  I wasn't thougoughly impressed
Bouncing - Not a favorite of mine.  Well played, but pretty standard, really.
Poor Heart - I never look for this song on paper, but it's always good to hear.  Not Trey's best solo but very good.  I love how fast the guitar gets.  That's skillz.
Stash - It's set apart because of the lack of ending, and I liked the jam.  I liked the > Makisupa, but it sounded planned.  And that's OK, but it makes it less special.
Makisupa - I was really pleased with this version.  I always like the song, but I think this one went over well.
Reba - Typically awesome.
Maze - Cool how the whistling was brought into the intro.  Makes it notable.  It's good, but that's it.
Forbin's > Mockingbird - I personally liked the narration.  Forbins is always a treat, and I'm always amazed at how the guys play the narration backdrop.
Cavern - Typical closer and I like it there.  This version was above average IMO.

2001 - Great set opener, but short and standard
Mike's - Pretty HOT.
Irish ditty - this is fantastic.
Kung - I liked this Kung.  I'm usually less of a fan
Mike's - Continuing rage!  Really good Mike's the whole way through.
TMWSIY-Avenu - I absolutely love this combo.  And this version does NOT dissapoint.  Way to keep up the energy of avenu going into...
Sloth - High energy
Sparkle - always a place in my heart for this song.  But I don't go after it.  This was a quality rendition
***I'm now realizing how great this show is.  It's well above average, although at this point I haven't noted anything unbelievably spectacular.  The quality of playing, the energy, the on-stage antics (secret language etc).
Mife - I love the acoustic intro and they did real well changing speeds during the verses.  Another high quality tune.  And I like the little ditty at the end.
McGrupp - Always, always good.  Just really good, even with the slight guitar flub at the end.
Purple Rain > HYHU - I liked Fishman with this one.  Better than other PRs that I've heard.  I like it.
Antelope - RAGING.  This was fantastic!  Really liked it.
Carolina - It was acapella.  This one was done well though.  Better than the norm.
LaGrange - Yet antother well played tune.  Awesome.

Overall, this show is above average.  I thought it had good flow and song selection.  It was really rockin'.  Definitely not in my top 10 or anything, but one of those shows that get filed under "Quality Performance".

Jephrey
There are 10 types of people in this world.  Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

susep

Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 17, 2006, 02:21:16 PM


Man, that is a GREAT Reba.  It isn't "over the top".  But, it sounds GORGEOUS.  The band hits the jam with everything they got.  Effortlessly and egolessly.   I will definitely keep this Reba around.  I like it.  I like it alot.  Reba just sounds so nice. 

the Reba and Mockingbird SMOKE!

Nice bro :-D

whatapiper

mikes>diddy was hot, and the alvenu>sloth is pretty epic, the mcgrupp was good, especially since it had a tight mfmf before it.  the mcgupp lacked intensity imo, not like the 12/30/93 version which was on fire...

so who goes next?
We are all and we are all we are
Far flung bits of Sun and bits of Stars
From the  ocean from the land from the
beginning to end
Backwards forwards back toward
we belong

jonyem

I've had a couple listens today, and while I could dig into every tune, I'm just gonna say, this show is a perfect example of why I wish I had seen these guys back in the good ol' days. Using only the history of the band up until this show, it's really a hot number. Well played, and probably a lotta fun to have been there. Love the Stash, one of my favorite Forbin>Mockinbird segments. Really not a fan of rollercosters, but i enjoyed this ride. Second set is solid, but in some ways is a let down following that first. Mike's is pretty good, bit sloppy, but i personally think Mike's is one of those songs that should be played as though they've never played it before. Avenu>Sloth is probably my favorite segment of the whole show, the segue Got Me.

Anyway, good show, I really am a fan of the earlier days, might even pick one from earlier in '93 or maybe an '89 when my pick comes around. But, that could change bye the time I do pick one.
I give this one a solid B+. The sound is good too.

Hicks

Quote from: Trey Anastasio
But, I don't think our fans do happily lap it up, I think they go online and talk about how it was a bad show.

birdman

    Nice, this will definately work out ...and they say phishheads are unorganized... :roll:
Roller coaster to Gamehendge now loading at Darien Lake. For your own safety keep arms inside the vehicle and tightly secure your face. Its going to be a wild ride.
   Just finished set I on my commute. Two big thumbs up from birdman. After the opening warmup trio this set really takes off. Love the stash, I felt the jam was a pretty unique, polyrythmic journey. Definately like the transition into Makisupa...you can hear plenty of great Stashes in 93 but Makisupa was a different beast back then.
  The Reba is a beaut, no wanking...got some goosebumps at the beginning of the Chill part...always a good sign.
Love the Forbins/Mockingbird...especially when treys screaming and yelling as they descend on the coaster...classic Phish.

   This is definately a good snapshot of the band on a hot night in 93. I love the work they put into the vocals, the harmonies are as good as they ever got. The playing is tight as a nut, which is what I got me into the band in the first place. And they only have one gear...overdrive.  Like Ikki said earlier, it really is a great snapshot of when the band was just beggining to hit their stride.
  Cant wait to hear set II...I have it on XLII down in the basement, might have to dust it off for old time sake.
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