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I'm sure the other docs were better, but I'm glad Gore won.
I have that sitting on the shelf near my TV. Haven't had time to watch it though. I'm too busy burning up fossil fuels in my spare time.
Quote from: rowjimmy on February 26, 2007, 08:29:16 AM
I have that sitting on the shelf near my TV. Haven't had time to watch it though. I'm too busy burning up fossil fuels in my spare time.
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pretty good documentary actually. I do like how he takes an objective approach to proving his arguments. I also like how he leaves the politics out of the movie (sans a couple of 2000 election jokes, which were funny btw). Overall, I think it was worthy of getting an oscar.
I thought it was a great documentary.
Quote from: phan003 on February 26, 2007, 11:22:30 AM
I also like how he leaves the politics out of the movie (sans a couple of 2000 election jokes, which were funny btw)
Apparently, we watched two totally different movies :?
I thought the doc was ok, it was good in the sense of it made the mainstream and prolly scared a few folks. :-D
Quote from: antelope19 on February 26, 2007, 11:57:57 AM
Apparently, we watched two totally different movies :?
I think he was referring to the fact that there were not many references to the election. The documentary was very political. You can't talk about global warming without being political.
but is it partisan?
Quote from: rowjimmy on February 26, 2007, 12:23:14 PM
but is it partisan?
Considering that one side of the political landscape dismisses global warming as a myth I don't think it's possible to have a partisan discussion of the issue.
Quote from: mattstick on February 26, 2007, 12:46:42 PM
Considering that one side of the political landscape dismisses global warming as a myth I don't think it's possible to have a partisan discussion of the issue.
That one side being mostly big oil. If they admit global warming is man induced then the status quo would change and they might actually lose $$$ instead of record profits. Even w/ out admitting man's fingerprint they stand to lose anyhow, they're just playing it out as long as they can.
Just to play Devil's Advocate - scientists were pretty sure the world was in a long-term cooling trend at one point in the 70s.
Quote from: mattstick on February 26, 2007, 01:07:49 PM
Just to play Devil's Advocate - scientists were pretty sure the world was in a long-term cooling trend at one point in the 70s.
geologically speaking we are between ice ages. There are periods of heating/warming before the onset of an intense ice peak, at least that's what the geologic record/ice cores reflect.
Quote from: antelope19 on February 26, 2007, 11:57:57 AM
Apparently, we watched two totally different movies :?
did your version have strippers ? mine didn't :|
Quote from: OctopusRider on February 26, 2007, 12:22:05 PM
I think he was referring to the fact that there were not many references to the election. The documentary was very political. You can't talk about global warming without being political.
People in D.C. made it political and it shouldn't be a political issue, which Gore points out in the documentary. I think Gore avoids most of the political antics and sticks to the facts. To me, this isn't political, it is explaining the science behind Global Warming, which is the truth in this case.
Quote from: rowjimmy on February 26, 2007, 12:23:14 PM
but is it partisan?
yes and no. A small majority of conservatives actually recognize the threat, and want to help fix the problem. Many people make it partisan by distorting the debate, and not focusing on the real issues at hand. Which is a shame in my opinion.
I find it funny how so many people can watch the same movie, and come away with totally different opinions on what was said. This is what makes it interesting. IMO, I agree with what was said (on this board) about how this shouldn't be a political issue. This is affecting everyone, whether we like it or not. I just thought the amount of footage of, the jokes about, and any/all references to the 2000 election put in the movie were totally obnoxious and unnecessary. It has nothing to do with the subject at hand. IMO, it shouldn't have been in there AT ALL!!!! But he just couldn't resist the opportunity. I understand that the current administration has chosen to turn the blind eye. But it's like he is insinuating that if he were president, this wouldn't be a problem at all. Give me a break. Instead of wasting my time, talking about how bitter you are (5 years later) about the election, why don't you propose solutions to the problem and really make the current admin. look bad? Just a suggestion. I guess this is my biggest issue with the current state of politics/this country. Everyone complains, but few offer solutions or suggestion as to what would make it better. They just point out things that have gone wrong.
End rant.... sorry
QuoteI guess this is my biggest issue with the current state of politics/this country. Everyone complains, but few offer solutions or suggestion as to what would make it better. They just point out things that have gone wrong.
A solution would mean action, and taking action(s) could cost votes. It is why the dems in the house/senate take a vote on the stance of the war, but WON'T EVER CUT the funds for the war. It could end their career, which is really sad imo. Politicans have no spine. :|
Quote from: antelope19 on February 26, 2007, 02:44:47 PM
Instead of wasting my time, talking about how bitter you are (5 years later) about the election, why don't you propose solutions to the problem and really make the current admin. look bad?
I think both of those issues were covered nicely in the film. Let's not forget that it was only a film. I think the documentary was targeting the general public as an eye opener to create awareness and involvement, more so than a film about blame and solution. It presented several ways for us to do our part, find out more info and spread the word.
Quote from: phan003 on February 26, 2007, 02:56:22 PM
It is why the dems in the house/senate take a vote on the stance of the war, but WON'T EVER CUT the funds for the war. It could end their career, which is really sad imo. Politicans have no spine. :|
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if the people in power (both dems and republicans) saw the system as anything other than a way for them to get rich, then their personal careers wouldn't even matter. the idea behind holding public office is that you care more about the good of the public than your own good. the system's shitty and until it changes, the earth is going to keep heating up while democrats and republicans bitch at each other over stupid shit all day long.