goes live this friday!
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ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE
East Troy, WI
SET 1: Ramble On[1] > Mike's Song -> Esther > Weekapaug Groove, Guyute, Fikus, Birds of a Feather, Lawn Boy > Funky Bitch
SET 2: Piper > Wilson > Also Sprach Zarathustra -> Magilla > Also Sprach Zarathustra > Tweezer > Fluffhead, Brian and Robert > Albuquerque > Chalk Dust Torture, Frankenstein
ENCORE: Been Caught Stealing[1] > Tweezer Reprise
[1] Phish debut.
This show was webcast live and marked the Phish debuts of Ramble On and Been Caught Stealin', as well as the breakout of Esther (first since October 19, 1996, or 139 shows). 2001 contained Crosseyed and Painless teases from Trey. Chalk Dust included a Jean Pierre tease from Trey and a Shake a Tail Feather tease from Mike.
ramble on baby! hell yeah love this show
the mikes groove is good and the 2nd set is pretty crazy.
This was webcast? On AOL?
Love that Tweezer!
2 archival shows in 1 week...YES!
Fuck yeah!!! I loved this show and have never really been a big fan of the aud I have!
Did anybody catch the show where Kevin announced it? If so did he play any other FTA-type stuff?
I approve of this release.
Quote from: mattstick on June 15, 2020, 06:43:22 PM
This was webcast? On AOL?
I remember this. Isn't this the first "official" Phish webcast.
Quote from: Superfreakie on June 15, 2020, 09:30:39 PM
Quote from: mattstick on June 15, 2020, 06:43:22 PM
This was webcast? On AOL?
I remember this. Isn't this the first "official" Phish webcast.
Apparently 8/8/97 was the first one.
https://phish.net/setlists/phish-august-08-1997-new-world-music-theatre-tinley-park-il-usa
Lol at anyone being able to stream more than a few seconds of these shows at the time.
Quote from: Hicks on June 15, 2020, 09:40:05 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on June 15, 2020, 09:30:39 PM
Quote from: mattstick on June 15, 2020, 06:43:22 PM
This was webcast? On AOL?
I remember this. Isn't this the first "official" Phish webcast.
Apparently 8/8/97 was the first one.
https://phish.net/setlists/phish-august-08-1997-new-world-music-theatre-tinley-park-il-usa
Lol at anyone being able to stream more than a few seconds of these shows at the time.
Vegas '00 was buffering non-stop, I can only imagine how bad these must have been.
I used to wear this tape out back in the day. I approve this pick!
Quote from: ytowndan on June 15, 2020, 09:51:47 PM
Quote from: Hicks on June 15, 2020, 09:40:05 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on June 15, 2020, 09:30:39 PM
Quote from: mattstick on June 15, 2020, 06:43:22 PM
This was webcast? On AOL?
I remember this. Isn't this the first "official" Phish webcast.
Apparently 8/8/97 was the first one.
https://phish.net/setlists/phish-august-08-1997-new-world-music-theatre-tinley-park-il-usa
Lol at anyone being able to stream more than a few seconds of these shows at the time.
Vegas '00 was buffering non-stop, I can only imagine how bad these must have been.
My Vegas '00 worked pretty well. Of course, by then I had work paying for the best available DSL connection.
Fire. Can't wait.
Vivid memories of the crowd freakouts at Ramble On and Been Caught Stealing.
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 16, 2020, 08:49:44 AM
Quote from: ytowndan on June 15, 2020, 09:51:47 PM
Quote from: Hicks on June 15, 2020, 09:40:05 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on June 15, 2020, 09:30:39 PM
Quote from: mattstick on June 15, 2020, 06:43:22 PM
This was webcast? On AOL?
I remember this. Isn't this the first "official" Phish webcast.
Apparently 8/8/97 was the first one.
https://phish.net/setlists/phish-august-08-1997-new-world-music-theatre-tinley-park-il-usa
Lol at anyone being able to stream more than a few seconds of these shows at the time.
Vegas '00 was buffering non-stop, I can only imagine how bad these must have been.
My Vegas '00 worked pretty well. Of course, by then I had work paying for the best available DSL connection.
Dormitory ethernet came in handy that night.
Quote from: VDB on June 16, 2020, 11:55:30 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on June 16, 2020, 08:49:44 AM
Quote from: ytowndan on June 15, 2020, 09:51:47 PM
Quote from: Hicks on June 15, 2020, 09:40:05 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on June 15, 2020, 09:30:39 PM
Quote from: mattstick on June 15, 2020, 06:43:22 PM
This was webcast? On AOL?
I remember this. Isn't this the first "official" Phish webcast.
Apparently 8/8/97 was the first one.
https://phish.net/setlists/phish-august-08-1997-new-world-music-theatre-tinley-park-il-usa
Lol at anyone being able to stream more than a few seconds of these shows at the time.
Vegas '00 was buffering non-stop, I can only imagine how bad these must have been.
My Vegas '00 worked pretty well. Of course, by then I had work paying for the best available DSL connection.
Dormitory ethernet came in handy that night.
Our home internet did not handle the stream very well that night. Between the buffering and the robot sharts, I gave up after about 20 minutes. Excited to hear this release!
I was at the world in 97 and alpine in 98, so the first live stream I remember was vegas in 2000. It didnt work great, but good enough for me to hear Trey in Mockingbird. After which I immediately bought shoreline tix and a flight to san francisco.
Quote from: anthrax on June 16, 2020, 02:56:57 PM
After which I immediately bought shoreline tix and a flight to san francisco.
Smart man...I did the same. Then I went on a hunt for the UFOs. So tiny the squares were, but oh so powerful.
8/1/98 was my third show (first was 8/8/97 oddly enough) and the night I ate the most acid of my life. I have been very eagerly awaiting this release, I thought it would never happen. I'm almost frightened to listen to it, that night was really intense.
that night I also bought my favorite t-shirt of all time: the Chunga's Revenge cover on the front and the Packard Goose quote on the back. I very well may have paid a hundred bucks for it, there is no way of knowing for sure.
really enjoying this release. Sounds great and one of my favorite tours. :music:
Agreed, great show and archives release.
Heady Crosseyed teases in that 2001
Listening now, Been Caught Stealin'. :rawk: Trey's solo rips.
churches should be built as a tribute to this wilson
This show has definitely withstood the test of time. Great release. We were toward the back of the pav and it was popping off. We climbed up onto the bases of the roof supports and had a killer view for Been Caught Stealing. Only time I can think of where crowd was more raucous during a cover drop was MMP Sabotage or the RATM thing (which I was not at). High fives all around after this night for sure.
have had a great copy of this show forever, but this is still a great upgrade. fantastic all around, and i really love both sets.
and maybe it's just my setup, but i felt that the drums were a bit thin in this mix - usually much meatier in '98.
Yeah I wish this was a multitrack, it sounds fine but it's nowhere near the quality of the Grand Rapids 98 from last year.
Quote from: Hicks on June 28, 2020, 11:35:52 PM
Yeah I wish this was a multitrack, it sounds fine but it's nowhere near the quality of the Grand Rapids 98 from last year.
Everything after '94 is multitrack but they choose to not use them, which is confounding cause every multitrack release sounds much better. Is it because they plan to eventually return to the gold mine and release tour box sets like the GD, with these billed as superior quality to what was previously released. They really suck at marketing their archives. The GD now have it down to a science. Not hard to see. Put together a great funky looking box, less a fucking glider, have someone write a 20 page booklet with great photos, and hire the absolute best to mix it (and for the love of God, please dump Kervorkian - he sucks).
I guess they don't wanna pay Atschiller to mix them if the two track sounds good enough.
Quote from: Superfreakie on June 29, 2020, 12:05:26 AM
Quote from: Hicks on June 28, 2020, 11:35:52 PM
Yeah I wish this was a multitrack, it sounds fine but it's nowhere near the quality of the Grand Rapids 98 from last year.
Everything after '94 is multitrack but they choose to not use them, which is confounding cause every multitrack release sounds much better. Is it because they plan to eventually return to the gold mine and release tour box sets like the GD, with these billed as superior quality to what was previously released. They really suck at marketing their archives. The GD now have it down to a science. Not hard to see. Put together a great funky looking box, less a fucking glider, have someone write a 20 page booklet with great photos, and hire the absolute best to mix it (and for the love of God, please dump Kervorkian - he sucks).
Yes, Dr. Deaf has got to go. Why do people keep hiring him?!? It's not just Phish, I see his name on other groups as well.
Quote from: mistercharlie on June 15, 2020, 08:25:39 PM
Fuck yeah!!! I loved this show and have never really been a big fan of the aud I have!
agreed. def would love an upgrade of this.
was a good show, but personally had alot of weird mid tour drama going on with people getting arrested and shit so at the time it wasn't my fav, but came to love the tape later.
iirc i actually got in off a fake ticket for this one :crazy:
Quote from: mistercharlie on June 29, 2020, 05:17:39 AM
Quote from: Superfreakie on June 29, 2020, 12:05:26 AM
Quote from: Hicks on June 28, 2020, 11:35:52 PM
Yeah I wish this was a multitrack, it sounds fine but it's nowhere near the quality of the Grand Rapids 98 from last year.
Everything after '94 is multitrack but they choose to not use them, which is confounding cause every multitrack release sounds much better. Is it because they plan to eventually return to the gold mine and release tour box sets like the GD, with these billed as superior quality to what was previously released. They really suck at marketing their archives. The GD now have it down to a science. Not hard to see. Put together a great funky looking box, less a fucking glider, have someone write a 20 page booklet with great photos, and hire the absolute best to mix it (and for the love of God, please dump Kervorkian - he sucks).
Yes, Dr. Deaf has got to go. Why do people keep hiring him?!? It's not just Phish, I see his name on other groups as well.
He's trash, but I guess it plays into the lackadaisical release of random archive shows. Can't complain about 2 releases in 3 months, though!
Quote from: ph92 on June 29, 2020, 10:08:10 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on June 29, 2020, 05:17:39 AM
Quote from: Superfreakie on June 29, 2020, 12:05:26 AM
Quote from: Hicks on June 28, 2020, 11:35:52 PM
Yeah I wish this was a multitrack, it sounds fine but it's nowhere near the quality of the Grand Rapids 98 from last year.
Everything after '94 is multitrack but they choose to not use them, which is confounding cause every multitrack release sounds much better. Is it because they plan to eventually return to the gold mine and release tour box sets like the GD, with these billed as superior quality to what was previously released. They really suck at marketing their archives. The GD now have it down to a science. Not hard to see. Put together a great funky looking box, less a fucking glider, have someone write a 20 page booklet with great photos, and hire the absolute best to mix it (and for the love of God, please dump Kervorkian - he sucks).
Yes, Dr. Deaf has got to go. Why do people keep hiring him?!? It's not just Phish, I see his name on other groups as well.
He's trash, but I guess it plays into the lackadaisical release of random archive shows. Can't complain about 2 releases in 3 months, though!
FTR, I'm pretty sure Phish had him master 200+ shows like 15 years ago and they are just releasing them whenever they feel like it. They're not going to him every few months with another show to master. In other words, don't expect anything different for a long time.
Quote from: PIE-GUY on June 30, 2020, 06:42:00 AM
Quote from: ph92 on June 29, 2020, 10:08:10 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on June 29, 2020, 05:17:39 AM
Quote from: Superfreakie on June 29, 2020, 12:05:26 AM
Quote from: Hicks on June 28, 2020, 11:35:52 PM
Yeah I wish this was a multitrack, it sounds fine but it's nowhere near the quality of the Grand Rapids 98 from last year.
Everything after '94 is multitrack but they choose to not use them, which is confounding cause every multitrack release sounds much better. Is it because they plan to eventually return to the gold mine and release tour box sets like the GD, with these billed as superior quality to what was previously released. They really suck at marketing their archives. The GD now have it down to a science. Not hard to see. Put together a great funky looking box, less a fucking glider, have someone write a 20 page booklet with great photos, and hire the absolute best to mix it (and for the love of God, please dump Kervorkian - he sucks).
Yes, Dr. Deaf has got to go. Why do people keep hiring him?!? It's not just Phish, I see his name on other groups as well.
He's trash, but I guess it plays into the lackadaisical release of random archive shows. Can't complain about 2 releases in 3 months, though!
FTR, I'm pretty sure Phish had him master 200+ shows like 15 years ago and they are just releasing them whenever they feel like it. They're not going to him every few months with another show to master. In other words, don't expect anything different for a long time.
:cry:
I suppose every new release increases the chance they get shapiro to do an FTA
Quote from: kellerb on June 30, 2020, 09:23:31 AM
I suppose every new release increases the chance they get shapiro to do an FTA
Did Shaps do an FTA for this release? I read that he was going to be playing selections from the release when he announced it, but did he play any other archival gems?
I should probably mention that we did an HFPod episode on this release. came out last week and was a pretty fun conversation.
There are disagreements.
https://www.osirispod.com/podcasts/helping-friendly-podcast/helping-friendly-podcast-episode-178-alpine-valley-8-1-98/
Quote from: PIE-GUY on June 30, 2020, 06:42:00 AM
Quote from: ph92 on June 29, 2020, 10:08:10 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on June 29, 2020, 05:17:39 AM
Quote from: Superfreakie on June 29, 2020, 12:05:26 AM
Quote from: Hicks on June 28, 2020, 11:35:52 PM
Yeah I wish this was a multitrack, it sounds fine but it's nowhere near the quality of the Grand Rapids 98 from last year.
Everything after '94 is multitrack but they choose to not use them, which is confounding cause every multitrack release sounds much better. Is it because they plan to eventually return to the gold mine and release tour box sets like the GD, with these billed as superior quality to what was previously released. They really suck at marketing their archives. The GD now have it down to a science. Not hard to see. Put together a great funky looking box, less a fucking glider, have someone write a 20 page booklet with great photos, and hire the absolute best to mix it (and for the love of God, please dump Kervorkian - he sucks).
Yes, Dr. Deaf has got to go. Why do people keep hiring him?!? It's not just Phish, I see his name on other groups as well.
He's trash, but I guess it plays into the lackadaisical release of random archive shows. Can't complain about 2 releases in 3 months, though!
FTR, I'm pretty sure Phish had him master 200+ shows like 15 years ago and they are just releasing them whenever they feel like it. They're not going to him every few months with another show to master. In other words, don't expect anything different for a long time.
Kevorkian wasn't involved with the Grand Rapids 98 and Kent State multitrack releases.