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Title: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: rowjimmy on August 21, 2015, 11:54:40 PM
Phish
2015-08-21
Magnaball (Day 1)
Watkins Glen, NY

Set 1:
Simple, The Dogs, The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday > Avenu Malkenu > The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday, Free, Happy Birthday*, Wedge, Mock Song^, Roggae, Rift, Bathtub Gin

Set 2:
Chalk Dust Torture > Ghost** > Rock & Roll > Harry Hood^^ > Waste, No Men In No Man's Land > Slave To The Traffic Light

Encore:
Farmhouse, First Tube


*sung for Eliza's (Trey's daughter) 20th birthday
^LTP 2003-07-12
** WTU? Teases
^^ Cars Trucks Busses tease

Just before Ghost, Trey teased WTU?
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: rowjimmy on August 21, 2015, 11:57:37 PM
I'd forget to put the encore on my phone tomorrow.

The rest is pretty much keeper material.
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: anthrax on August 21, 2015, 11:58:50 PM
2 down, 6 to go.  I need a veggie burrito, a balloon, and a pbr, pronto.
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: pcr3 on August 22, 2015, 12:00:00 AM
Great flow in that second set. Definitely will go back to hear that asap. I'd guess any of us posting right now are pretty pissed that we're not there...
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: GBL on August 22, 2015, 12:03:15 AM
Great great show
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: rowjimmy on August 22, 2015, 12:18:03 AM
Quote from: pcr3 on August 22, 2015, 12:00:00 AM
I'd guess any of us posting right now are pretty pissed that we're not there...

I wouldn't say "pissed".
Would I like to have been there? Hell yes.
But it's not in the cards.

I missed Clifford Ball 19 years ago because my daughter had just been born. Now I'm missing Magnaball to take her to college (tomorrow).
It is what it is.
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Caravan2001 on August 22, 2015, 12:57:27 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 22, 2015, 12:18:03 AM
Quote from: pcr3 on August 22, 2015, 12:00:00 AM
I'd guess any of us posting right now are pretty pissed that we're not there...

I wouldn't say "pissed".
Would I like to have been there? Hell yes.
But it's not in the cards.

I missed Clifford Ball 19 years ago because my daughter had just been born. Now I'm missing Magnaball to take her to college (tomorrow).
It is what it is.

Thanks for keeping me in check.  I have been pretty salty.  I honestly think it is worse because my wife is there.  I mean, I really hope she is having a great time, and I know she is, but considering I am not a jealous person, I am having a lot of jealous feelings.  Which suck because they are negative....
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: mistercharlie on August 22, 2015, 07:19:47 AM
Shit looks sick! I had to call it a night after Gin, but that will still be the first thing I listen to today.
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: susep on August 22, 2015, 08:51:01 AM
Solid show, listened via the Bunny.  kudos to Phish for hooking up the free listen along.  Went outside to hit some  :mrgreen: so missed the middle part of the first set.  Mock Song was a nice treat and throwback, definitely psyched to re-listen.  Roggae was heady, at first I thought it was Frankie Says :hereitisyousentimentalbastard  This first set had a kind of Lemonwheel vibe to me.  Gin was really good, they took it out, definitely had 2 or 3 distinct jams as I recall. 
The whole second set is mint, nice post jam out of Chalk Dust, another trippy jam out of Ghost.  Very atypical playing in both.  Rock & Roll had some nice Trey shreddage which ended with a brief funk/reggae pulse.  Hood was jammed out as well atypically.  No Men into Slave was the proverbial icing, always good to have a Hood and Slave in the same set much less same show.  The First Tube encore was fuego.  All in all great first day/show.  Pumped for the rest.   
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: jedifunk on August 22, 2015, 11:05:51 AM
given this was my first real extended listen to the band this tour, colour me impressed! and i only heard from ghost to the end.

all the jams were well played and unique, yet the set flowed really nicely.... from what i heard the ghost jam was probably my favorite, but can't wait to listen to the gin.

sadly, my problem with this kind of show (and it really is my problem), is that while it was well played and the jams were really good, i'll likely never come back to it. i won't remember that the whole set was well played, and i'll see song times right around 10 min, which normally isn't enough to get me excited.

i know this is a preconditioned problem i have, and i miss out on hear lots of great stuff... its just the digital age makes it too damn easy to only listen to the jams, and certainly leans towards the bigger jams...

perhaps i can be cured, only time will tell
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: mehead on August 22, 2015, 11:13:37 AM
About to give the second set a proper re-listen. Missed the first set last night but did catch most of the second set - I bailed as they went into Slave. I thought it was well played and like others have said, the set flowed really well. The CDT did nothing for me and was bummed when they ripcorded Ghost. R & R and Hood were solid but nothing really stood out for me.

But first up, Magna Gin
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: tet on August 22, 2015, 11:30:58 AM
Started listening at Gin last night, man was that amazing...  Can't wait to give 1st set a proper listening now.  I saw the last (and first) Mock Song at Gorge, so very happy that's back.  TMWSIY>Avenu brings me back to my old tapes.  Second set had proper flow, regardless of any "ripcording."  IMO, the jams all worked, had me dancing (in bed) and then went into new songs.  Big deal.   

All of those  :wtu: phrasings were interesting, for sure...  maybe more Siket material is coming this weekend?
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: jedifunk on August 22, 2015, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: tet on August 22, 2015, 11:30:58 AM
Second set had proper flow, regardless of any "ripcording."  IMO, the jams all worked, had me dancing (in bed) and then went into new songs.  Big deal.   

i think it is a big deal ... not a deal breaker, but still significant. to me, it feels like they (trey in particular) aren't willing to work for the smooth segue. thats what bothers me about it. i'm fine with moving onto another song, its that there seems to be an unwillingness to TRY to ease into the next song, especially in the midst of a solid jam that in a lot of cases doesn't match up with the song the go into.

just work for it, it makes the reward all the more sweet
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: tet on August 22, 2015, 12:20:00 PM
Quote from: jedifunk on August 22, 2015, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: tet on August 22, 2015, 11:30:58 AM
Second set had proper flow, regardless of any "ripcording."  IMO, the jams all worked, had me dancing (in bed) and then went into new songs.  Big deal.   

i think it is a big deal ... not a deal breaker, but still significant. to me, it feels like they (trey in particular) aren't willing to work for the smooth segue. thats what bothers me about it. i'm fine with moving onto another song, its that there seems to be an unwillingness to TRY to ease into the next song, especially in the midst of a solid jam that in a lot of cases doesn't match up with the song the go into.

just work for it, it makes the reward all the more sweet

fair point.  i think they do work for it sometimes.  more now than they were, say, 2 years ago...  honestly, from Hampton '09, i am happy to just take what we can get - it's  :phish:, and any other band's best set is like the worst  :phish: set ever  (and still, their BEST set is almost as good as James Brown's worst set...)
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: jedifunk on August 22, 2015, 12:26:15 PM
Quote from: tet on August 22, 2015, 12:20:00 PM
Quote from: jedifunk on August 22, 2015, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: tet on August 22, 2015, 11:30:58 AM
Second set had proper flow, regardless of any "ripcording."  IMO, the jams all worked, had me dancing (in bed) and then went into new songs.  Big deal.   

i think it is a big deal ... not a deal breaker, but still significant. to me, it feels like they (trey in particular) aren't willing to work for the smooth segue. thats what bothers me about it. i'm fine with moving onto another song, its that there seems to be an unwillingness to TRY to ease into the next song, especially in the midst of a solid jam that in a lot of cases doesn't match up with the song the go into.

just work for it, it makes the reward all the more sweet

fair point.  i think they do work for it sometimes.  more now than they were, say, 2 years ago...  honestly, from Hampton '09, i am happy to just take what we can get - it's  :phish:, and any other band's best set is like the worst  :phish: set ever  (and still, their BEST set is almost as good as James Brown's worst set...)

completely agree ... i'm happy that they are playing so well!  i'm just an old spoiled and jaded fan
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: khalpin on August 22, 2015, 01:21:26 PM
I really liked the segue from R&R > Hood
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Guyute on August 22, 2015, 01:27:19 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 22, 2015, 12:18:03 AM
Quote from: pcr3 on August 22, 2015, 12:00:00 AM
I'd guess any of us posting right now are pretty pissed that we're not there...

I wouldn't say "pissed".
Would I like to have been there? Hell yes.
But it's not in the cards.

I missed Clifford Ball 19 years ago because my daughter had just been born. Now I'm missing Magnaball to take her to college (tomorrow).
It is what it is.

Congratulations, both great reasons to miss them and far more memorable.

I've said it before, but they sound like 4 friends who love making music together again.  It took some time after the break up, but they really have hit a groove.

Trey also seemed very inspired coming out of Fare Thee Well, seemed to light a little new spark in his playing.  Its tighter or something now.
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: GBL on August 22, 2015, 06:40:49 PM
 :wtu:
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Igbo on August 22, 2015, 07:11:10 PM
Dudes being dudes
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: shoreline99 on August 22, 2015, 07:17:16 PM
Caught up with Scotty and PG after the set this afternoon. PG had another wedding to attend, which was pretty awesome.
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: cactusfan on August 23, 2015, 01:52:44 AM
loving the Chalkdust and Ghost jams, but man, segues into and out of Ghost are pretty brutal.
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: emay on August 24, 2015, 01:10:40 PM
gin jam is fucking tits.
the simple starting it off is awesome too. Thats really all I take away from this set, but good start to the weekend for sure, onto set 2...
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: emay on August 24, 2015, 02:13:06 PM
This second set is great
good jams, nothing too special, transitions are smooth!
the drop to hood is $$
the ghost jam is good, CDT is lengthy but doesnt do too much for me, R&R jam is short but sweet.
This hoood jam is so good!! interesting funk rhythm type jam. the interplay between trey/page during that call and response type jam! hot damn
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: phil on August 25, 2015, 10:14:28 AM
I know it's not really part of this show, but I'm replaying the soundcheck jam now and hot damn it's even better than I remember  :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: barnesy305 on August 25, 2015, 10:15:58 AM
Quote from: phil on August 25, 2015, 10:14:28 AM
I know it's not really part of this show, but I'm replaying the soundcheck jam now and hot damn it's even better than I remember  :banana: :banana:

Don't be such a chomper, Phil.
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: phil on August 25, 2015, 10:26:55 AM
chomp chomp, mothafuckas


ETA: i seriously still don't know what that is
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: VDB on August 25, 2015, 10:30:38 AM
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on August 24, 2015, 02:13:06 PM
the drop to hood is $$

It really is, and made the relative brevity of the RnR jam more or less a non-issue.
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: shoreline99 on August 25, 2015, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on August 25, 2015, 10:30:38 AM
Quote from: emayPhishyMD on August 24, 2015, 02:13:06 PM
the drop to hood is $$

It really is, and made the relative brevity of the RnR jam more or less a non-issue.


Re: 8/21 Magnaball
« Reply #104 on: August 21, 2015, 10:53:25 PM »

QuoteSweet drop right there.
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: phil on August 25, 2015, 01:47:05 PM
Forgot how nasty this Gin is to close the first set. Everything around 10' to 15' especially is just buttah
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: PIE-GUY on August 27, 2015, 12:11:24 AM
So, this was my first TMWSIY and Alvenu since 12/30/95 MSG. A gap of 93 shows.

I was very happy to hear it. Fucking thrilled.
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Hicks on August 27, 2015, 12:38:03 AM
Quote from: PGLHAH on August 27, 2015, 12:11:24 AM
So, this was my first TMWSIY and Alvenu since 12/30/95 MSG. A gap of 93 shows.

I was very happy to hear it. Fucking thrilled.

(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/picard_clapping.gif)
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: jam> on August 27, 2015, 06:48:50 AM
Quote from: PGLHAH on August 27, 2015, 12:11:24 AM
So, this was my first TMWSIY and Alvenu since 12/30/95 MSG. A gap of 93 shows.

I was very happy to hear it. Fucking thrilled.

Ha, I was quite happy too. I hadn't heard that one since 6/30/95 actually 12/28/96.
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: sunrisevt on August 27, 2015, 09:41:56 AM
I haven't mentioned it on the 'paug yet, but 1st set Friday definitely contained the absolute highlight not just of the show, or the fest, but of my entire summer, really. Those who were there know where I'm going here...

My mom went into labor at a  :syf: show in Oregon, August 1972. They eventually made it to the local hospital, and I popped out ass-first after a 36 hour breech labor at 10:26pm on 8/21/72.

:phish: has played the date a few times, but I was never in attendance until last week.

Turns out Eliza Anastasio shares my birthday.

So, when Trey brought his eldest out so the band & fans could sing for her, the entire Holmes family crew, the Montreal contingent, and a good # of my VT crew & hometown running partners were right there.

I didn't hear Eliza's name sung--I could barely hear the song, in fact: I was at the bottom of a pile of beautiful, loving people all trying to hug me closer than the next guy.

I'm taking that moment with me through this coming winter and keeping it in the back pocket of my heart for the rest of my natural life.

To paraphrase one of my heroes, I could give fuck-all if they flub improv transitions and miss changes. It's all about energy.
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: phil on August 27, 2015, 09:44:36 AM
That is fucking awesome!
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Buffalo Budd on August 27, 2015, 09:52:34 AM
Quote from: phil on August 27, 2015, 09:44:36 AM
That is fucking awesome!
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: emay on August 27, 2015, 10:12:56 AM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on August 27, 2015, 09:52:34 AM
Quote from: phil on August 27, 2015, 09:44:36 AM
That is fucking awesome!
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: VDB on August 27, 2015, 10:33:29 AM
Really cool!
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: birdman on August 27, 2015, 06:15:53 PM
Can you feel the love?
I can
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: khalpin on August 28, 2015, 02:45:30 PM
That's awesome, Kelley!  :clap:
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: sls.stormyrider on August 28, 2015, 05:19:54 PM
Quote from: khalpin on August 28, 2015, 02:45:30 PM
That's awesome, Kelley!  :clap:
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: susep on July 28, 2016, 02:28:07 PM
was listening to and singing Mock Song with my 8 yr old son last night, we were changing the lyrics, mocking each other.  at the end he asks, what was the name of that song Dad?  I told him interestingly its called Mock Song.   :-)
Title: Re: 8/21 Magnaball Night 1 - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: shoreline99 on August 21, 2022, 09:50:56 AM
Listened to this first set while mowing the lawn yesterday. Brought me right back to an amazing weekend with some great people. Sofa king good.