Phish
2013-07-03
Darling's Waterfront Pavilion
Bangor, ME
Soundcheck:
Blues Jam, Corona, Mike-Sung Reggae-Tinged Cover or Original, Frost, My Soul, Funky Jam
I:
Possum, Runaway Jim, Stash, NICU, Wolfman's Brother, Rift, Theme From The Bottom, Chalk Dust Torture, Mike's Song, Silent in the Morning, Weekapaug
II:
Golden Age > Twist Around, Backwards Down The Number Line, Ocelot, Rock & Roll > 2001 > Cavern > Run Like an Antelope
E:
Harry Hood
ETA. I was gonna add the link to the LST, it just takes me a min to create the thread. Thanks all for your patience tonight and hope all in attendance made the Paug proud :beerbang:
G'night folks, she's late here in AST.
Fun LST.
I didn't hate the show via stream which, in this modern era, actually managed to have some good, old fashioned robo sharts.
I look forward to hearing about it from those in attendance.
How was the Hood Chant? I always like yelling "BALLS!" when they say "Hairy"...
Terry
Looks like a fun opener. Looking forward to listening to the show and hearing from those in attendance
Were there any other photos taken of the Jauntee cruise?
http://livephish.com/live-music/0,748/Phish-mp3-flac-download-7-3-2013-Darlings-Waterfront-Pavilion-Bangor-ME.html
Quote from: antelope19 on July 04, 2013, 12:22:50 AM
Were there any other photos taken of the Jauntee cruise?
Ill post some later.
pix: http://www.mainemusicnews.com/wp-content/gallery/phish/
Terry
Mike being the man and such and such things
(http://www.mainemusicnews.com/wp-content/gallery/phish/phish-29.jpg)
Fun night. Odd show, honestly. Had its moments, but it felt like they were rusty up there. Lots of little miscues... Perhaps they are getting used to the new stage setup with Fish in back.
Love the new lights. Complete redesign of the lighting rig. No round scrims above the band. New scrims behind the band lit up in cool ways. Reminded me of the lighting in Stop Making Sense.
Pug crew rolled deep tonight. Epic Jauntcruise!
Quote from: Superfreakie on July 04, 2013, 01:28:12 AM
Mike being the man and such and such things
(http://www.mainemusicnews.com/wp-content/gallery/phish/phish-29.jpg)
Is Mike made entirely from sand?
Quote from: Augustus on July 04, 2013, 03:12:00 AM
Quote from: Superfreakie on July 04, 2013, 01:28:12 AM
Mike being the man and such and such things
(http://www.mainemusicnews.com/wp-content/gallery/phish/phish-29.jpg)
Is Mike made entirely from sand?
dude is totally sandblasted
Quote from: Superfreakie on July 04, 2013, 01:28:12 AM
Mike being the man and such and such things
(http://www.mainemusicnews.com/wp-content/gallery/phish/phish-29.jpg)
Nice photo. Looking forward to hearing the show.
Quote from: PG on July 04, 2013, 02:11:20 AM
Pug crew rolled deep tonight.
Rule #1 from the lawn:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AWqpjRYhorg/SzmUA-0wuaI/AAAAAAAAE8I/Kw6EI3lIJak/s1600/5pugs2+27dec09.JPG)
HAHA!
Check out Birdman's face!
It was a rough night!!!
didnt really think this show was that great.
cool mikes/paug jamming at times. otherwise...ok.
really makes me re considering doing the toronto show.
i feel like if you close your eyes 2009-2013 it all sounds the same.
Why you always gotta hate, tweezerfan?
Wait. Who the fuck is tweezerfan?
Sounds like summer 2010.
Is Miner still around to describe it as tasteful whaling?
so how were the new songs?
Quote from: blatboom on July 04, 2013, 11:30:30 AM
so how were the new songs?
They're saving them for the webcast.
Ended up going spur of the moment to see The Avett Brothers last night, so I missed the opener.
I'm sure that there is going to be some rust, but it's all relative anyway, we've had that discussion many times.
I'm interested to see the new stage setup, and glad Chris has some new toys working with the lights!
Golden age jam was incredible, IMO. Antelope was adventures.... other than that, some SER rust and so many WTF moments. At one point Trey even aborted his own abortion.
Maybe I'm crazy...but I'm pretty sure the band has made a concious decision to play everything sloowwweeeer. Even hood seemed liked the most awkwardly sloooow tempo ever. Dudes are getting old!
Eta. New light set up is SO SICK.
So what I'm seeing is that the band was rusty and the real highlights are thanks to CK's time hanging with the Biebs?
no hate man. just reality.
yes, all the songs seem slowwww. chalkdust is super slow.
i mean i understand its the tour opener, no biggie, but it's like they put themselves in this spot, right?
if you pushed so hard to become so good, why wouldn't you want to keep going?
i've listened to one song from trey tour and it was extreme whale, i turned it off. (i hope this doesnt carry over to phish tour)
i just hope that they get the message from insiders that the fan base is not going to continue to put up with this bullshit!!!
Quote from: tweezerfan on July 04, 2013, 01:26:29 PM
no hate man. just reality.
yes, all the songs seem slowwww. chalkdust is super slow.
i mean i understand its the tour opener, no biggie, but it's like they put themselves in this spot, right?
if you pushed so hard to become so good, why wouldn't you want to keep going?
i've listened to one song from trey tour and it was extreme whale, i turned it off. (i hope this doesnt carry over to phish tour)
i just hope that they get the message from insiders that the fan base is not going to continue to put up with this bullshit!!!
:roll:
Sorry, the "fan base" will lap it up with smiles on their faces. Myself included. :)
I only skimmed messages. seems to be some negativity.
this seemed to be a pretty typical 3.0 show to me. gordon had a great night imo.
after hearing the whole soundcheck, I was expecting a lot of Trey songs so I was happy.
I like they try different things but silent in the middle of mike's groove just can;t be done.
I enjoyed the hood. nice to hear theme. everything else was pretty standard. 3.0. it is what it is.
Just finished set I. That was rough, really rough. In the same set you guys got the worst Runaway Jim, and Stash of 3.0. Half assed CDT, and a boring ass Mike's Groove. The only redeeming factor I could walk away with is at least Trey doesn't sound like he's on heroin, again.
Now, granted it's a tour opener and homeboy has been bleeding broadway in his veins for months, personally, I expected this. I watched a vid of CDT, new lights are dope. '09-10 Trey tone kills me though. Very heavy on the sustain and the whale call. His dexterity seems slightly better; albeit, he's still masking mad errors behind a collage of effects.
Fish sounds really good. LP SBD on my phone I can barely hear Mike. Page was page.
Quote from: sophist on July 04, 2013, 04:02:45 PM
Just finished set I. That was rough, really rough. In the same set you guys got the worst Runaway Jim, and Stash of 3.0. Half assed CDT, and a boring ass Mike's Groove. The only redeeming factor I could walk away with is at least Trey doesn't sound like he's on heroin, again.
Now, granted it's a tour opener and homeboy has been bleeding broadway in his veins for months, personally, I expected this. I watched a vid of CDT, new lights are dope. '09-10 Trey tone kills me though. Very heavy on the sustain and the whale call. His dexterity seems slightly better; albeit, he's still masking mad errors behind a collage of effects.
Fish sounds really good. LP SBD on my phone I can barely hear Mike. Page was page.
we listened to the FOB recording on the way back and mike is very much heard.
the recording we heard is not posted yet buty mics on the same stand are on BT now.
this was Mike's show. listen to a proper recording and it will be better. Trey was nonexistent to me last night but I LOVE shows that Mike shines. I didn't love last night but it was adequate but you NEED to hear Mike.
Had a blast! Got to hang out with Pieguy, Birdman, Pcr3, and redrum at times at the Casino which was cool. Hung out with bvaz for a few near his rig before the show started. The venue was definitely not prepared for that type of crowd. Ridiculous concession lines and tough to make to the portopotty lines. The one cool part was that the sound was amazing throughout the venue so people were just dancing in the lines. My highlights were Mike's, Antelope and although nothing amazing Hood. I love Hood encores. Got to see the 2nd set from center stage about halfway from the stage to the sbd with a friend of mine. It was a pretty rocking 2nd set.
Quote from: sophist on July 04, 2013, 04:02:45 PM
Just finished set I. That was rough, really rough. In the same set you guys got the worst Runaway Jim, and Stash of 3.0. Half assed CDT, and a boring ass Mike's Groove. The only redeeming factor I could walk away with is at least Trey doesn't sound like he's on heroin, again.
Now, granted it's a tour opener and homeboy has been bleeding broadway in his veins for months, personally, I expected this. I watched a vid of CDT, new lights are dope. '09-10 Trey tone kills me though. Very heavy on the sustain and the whale call. His dexterity seems slightly better; albeit, he's still masking mad errors behind a collage of effects.
Fish sounds really good. LP SBD on my phone I can barely hear Mike. Page was page.
sorry, can you explain that statement to me?
obviously ive been completely out of any sort of phish news loop, but i thought he'd been clean since he got clean in 08 or whatever... was there some sort of relapse i missed? :?
if im just reading your phrasing wrong i apologize.
I wonder if the new stage set up added to the issues with the 1st show rust?
Guess I'll listen and find out!
Slim, sophist is just staying consistent--no relapse news or rumors.
I thought the show was a typical tour opener warmup. Weekapaug and golden age were hot. Silent in place of Hydrogen was a huge letdown for me, though.
The new lights, what I noticed primarily was the backdrop--as someone else noted: no round screens, instead a square divided into three rectangles one above the other, sometimes looking like an animated Mondrian painting. I was thinking it might be a special deal though--I don't think all the summer sheds have room for it; this stage was tall.
The people running the venue have their head in their collective ass. So many wrong-headed setups, it boggled the mind.
Missed the boat, but snuck on after they docked again to grab my ticket from birdman. Definitely glad I didn't get laid there. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
as much as people here are complaining about staff, try walking in with taping equipment. we had top go to a 2nd line or go home. definitely a clueless staff. it all worked out though.
Standard fare overall. This being their 30th year Anniv. opener, we were hoping for some new curveball. As pcr3 and I discussed on the jaunt cruise, the mind blowing jams of yesteryear are over, today its more about a holiday with low expectations. NICU was a set 1 highlight. Golden Age from set 2 was another highlight. Not because the jam was totally mind blowing, it wasn't however it was more then 7 or 8 minutes in duration and I was hoping they would chart into the unknown. The rest of set 2 was pretty standard, much like the whole show. Antelope raged hard, a solid, jammed out version. Mike sounded titty throughout. I left right after Antelope and wasn't surprised when I heard the first few chords of Hood for the encore. Back at the parking structure I could hear generation noob exclaim, "what a great show!" or, "that was fucking sick!" It was a fun day with friends.
Quote from: sunrisevt on July 04, 2013, 05:39:17 PM
Slim, sophist is just staying consistent--no relapse news or rumors.
k, thx for clearing that up.
sorry for distracting from the discussion.
just found it an odd statement since personally i prefer Trey's playing from his using years when compared to his sober years, lol.
i'm not saying i want him to use, but i absolutely would love for him to "
sound like he's on heroin again"...as Sophist put it, :wink:
.......AAAAAAnnyway, so glad to hear Paugers made tour opener and are reresentin! go team!! :rockout:
Great time yesterday. Susep and I headed down to the venue to chill and wait to board the Jaunt vessel. Heard pretty much all of soundcheck. The Jauntee cruise was sweet. Finally got to meet and hang with pcr3 and PG. Hadn't seen birdman since cccc and of. Purse met his brother. Missed emay on the boat. The weather was perfect and of course the Jauntee ripped!
Regarding the show, pretty typical tour opener. Possum opener was expected but at least they got it out of the way early. Like previously stated, they have definitely slowed down, esp the CDT. I dig Theme but didnt care for the placement. I did enjoy the Mike's, Weekapaug and NICU.
I dug the jam out of Golden Age which led to the hopes of them taking Twist out there. Nope. Any momentum that was there quickly evaporated with BDTNL with Ocelot to follow. I'm always a sucked for 2001 and Antelope so I lapped that up.
The place was muddy and getting out of there was a dumpster fire. Oh well.
Oh yeah, I dig the new light setup.
I grew up in Bangor so to be with good people, the Jaunt and then pheesh = WIN
@susep and @mehead - really wanted to catch up with you guys but knew it would be tough with not going on the jaunt cruise. Hopefully we'll catch up sometime soon.
here's my recording but I know Andy's FOB sounds sick
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=565151
Quote from: DoW on July 04, 2013, 07:43:28 PM
here's my recording but I know Andy's FOB sounds sick
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=565151
Thanks Brian. Sorry to have missed you yesterday.
Quote from: VA $l!m on July 04, 2013, 07:03:16 PM
Quote from: sunrisevt on July 04, 2013, 05:39:17 PM
Slim, sophist is just staying consistent--no relapse news or rumors.
i'm not saying i want him to use, but i absolutely would love for him to "sound like he's on heroin again
sober or not the biggest problem still is his tone. it used to be the most sweet, pleasing sound ever; now it's like nails on a chalkboard and the numerous gaffs are magnified as a result
Quote from: Undermind on July 04, 2013, 07:27:24 PM
@susep and @mehead - really wanted to catch up with you guys but knew it would be tough with not going on the jaunt cruise. Hopefully we'll catch up sometime soon.
No worries bro. I lost susep as soon as we got into the field. Never saw him during the show. Hope you had a good time mang!
Quote from: mehead on July 04, 2013, 08:59:57 PM
Quote from: Undermind on July 04, 2013, 07:27:24 PM
@susep and @mehead - really wanted to catch up with you guys but knew it would be tough with not going on the jaunt cruise. Hopefully we'll catch up sometime soon.
No worries bro. I lost susep as soon as we got into the field. Never saw him during the show. Hope you had a good time mang!
Yeah I spent a good portion of set 1 on my own which is perfectly fine. Hard getting ahold of people with the cell service the way it was.
Quote from: Undermind on July 04, 2013, 09:19:37 PM
Quote from: mehead on July 04, 2013, 08:59:57 PM
Quote from: Undermind on July 04, 2013, 07:27:24 PM
@susep and @mehead - really wanted to catch up with you guys but knew it would be tough with not going on the jaunt cruise. Hopefully we'll catch up sometime soon.
No worries bro. I lost susep as soon as we got into the field. Never saw him during the show. Hope you had a good time mang!
Yeah I spent a good portion of set 1 on my own which is perfectly fine. Hard getting ahold of people with the cell service the way it was.
try streaming through your cell phone with that service. :evil:
it was definitely beat
The ride up was akin to running a gauntlet of state police speed traps. 68 in a 65 was pushing it apparently.
Thanks for the anxiety Maine state Police.
Bangor, however, was very welcoming and fan friendly.
The show was meh. Liked the 1st set better.
I had a great time. Lots of fun hanging with the Paug throughout the night.
Looking forward to this weekend
Quote from: birdman on July 04, 2013, 09:37:42 PM
The ride up was akin to running a gauntlet of state police speed traps. 68 in a 65 was pushing it apparently.
Thanks for the anxiety Maine state Police.
SER! I actually got pulled over on the way up with emay.... for not wearing my seatbelt..... which I
WAS actually wearing.
Ended up escaping unharmed but that shit was terrifying. With what we were holding in the car... that could have gone very bad...
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 04, 2013, 10:06:57 PM
Quote from: birdman on July 04, 2013, 09:37:42 PM
The ride up was akin to running a gauntlet of state police speed traps. 68 in a 65 was pushing it apparently.
Thanks for the anxiety Maine state Police.
SER! I actually got pulled over on the way up with emay.... for not wearing my seatbelt..... which I WAS actually wearing.
Ended up escaping unharmed but that shit was terrifying. With what we were holding in the car... that could have gone very bad...
so glad we went up tuesday night.
I played my first round of disc golf wednesday mornign in brewster, a few miles from the venue.
it was nice to have a stress free day yesterday.
glad everyone got there with no issues though. :-D
Things that may or may or may not have been mentioned yet:
- Mike's new haircut is ridiculous
- Sounded like both Mike and Page got some new toys/effects. Loved the voxbox thingamajig Page used during Hood.
- Did anyone else here experience weird sound issues last night? Sounded like there were huge boosts/cuts in volume throughout the night... perhaps even some of the speakers were cutting in and out (?) Not sure if it was the band or venue but sound was not great for me. Trey was almost inaudible for some of the loud peaks.. ie. the end of Antelope
- Last short bit of Rock & Roll was some pretty cool "ambient jamming" sort of stuff I though. yeah... it was only like 30 second.... but it was cool!
Mike definitely wins best dressed.
Second set is better. It's a fairly standard Golden Age imo. Doesn't venture off into new territory. It does sound good though. Rest of the set is standard 3.0. I am interested to see what happens this weekend.
(https://mswordhelpnow.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=3018&sid=08958c699f01348d3997c1aafbe37d01)
mkdevo's got basically the whole show up on youtube, with great footage as usual
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQoFbF9I7Kw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQoFbF9I7Kw)
btw, I'm digging the new light set up
Quote from: gah on July 05, 2013, 10:26:38 AM
mkdevo's got basically the whole show up on youtube, with great footage as usual
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQoFbF9I7Kw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQoFbF9I7Kw)
btw, I'm digging the new light set up
New lights are DEFINITELY cool. I like when only the backdrop is lit and the band is just silhouetted. Very cool. Treys playing seemed very timid in the few songs I heard from the show (Mikes groove and Antelope). Parts of that Antelope were good however. After initial negative reviews and then actually hearing a bit I'm still positive. Might even buy the webcast for tonight.
Trey has been timid for about 4 years now.
I'll reserve judgement until after the weekend, but I still think that if they're not gonna spend as much time in the shed as they used to (or as they should), then it would be worth cutting back a bit on the song selections and play them better.
But then, I'm only going to 2 shows. Those who are going to 5+ might feel different.
Quote from: slslbs on July 05, 2013, 08:27:25 PM
Trey has been timid for about 4 years now.
I'll reserve judgement until after the weekend, but I still think that if they're not gonna spend as much time in the shed as they used to (or as they should), then it would be worth cutting back a bit on the song selections and play them better.
But then, I'm only going to 2 shows. Those who are going to 5+ might feel different.
if ur refering to practicing here, then i really got to ask to those that might know better than me--but in the pbs interview the other day Trey stated post hiatus he had become 'addicted to practicing'.
i thought the consensus was that they were not practicing much at all and definitely less than pre hiatus.
so, is Trey just lying? or is the less-practicing criticism just mostly bad rumor?
curious...
I haven't seen the interview yet. 1st show is tonight. I'll get back to you
Quote from: VA $l!m on July 05, 2013, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: slslbs on July 05, 2013, 08:27:25 PM
Trey has been timid for about 4 years now.
I'll reserve judgement until after the weekend, but I still think that if they're not gonna spend as much time in the shed as they used to (or as they should), then it would be worth cutting back a bit on the song selections and play them better.
But then, I'm only going to 2 shows. Those who are going to 5+ might feel different.
if ur refering to practicing here, then i really got to ask to those that might know better than me--but in the pbs interview the other day Trey stated post hiatus he had become 'addicted to practicing'.
i thought the consensus was that they were not practicing much at all and definitely less than pre hiatus.
so, is Trey just lying? or is the less-practicing criticism just mostly bad rumor?
curious...
From what I remember in the PBS interview, Trey said they WERE addicted to practicing. He didn't really elaborate on whether or not they are still practicing (they're not). Plus, in the Charlie Rose interview after the break-up, Trey said they had stopped practicing after the hiatus due to other obligations and musical interests.
Didn't Trey said he spent x hours a day for 6 days a week for y years on heads in a hardbody?
I think the practice discussion is overrated. I think they are playing the songs they want to play and cutting the Hans where they want to.
Mist interviews they seem to be happy where they are at.
Quote from: EdBanky on July 07, 2013, 03:11:01 PM
Quote from: VA $l!m on July 05, 2013, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: slslbs on July 05, 2013, 08:27:25 PM
Trey has been timid for about 4 years now.
I'll reserve judgement until after the weekend, but I still think that if they're not gonna spend as much time in the shed as they used to (or as they should), then it would be worth cutting back a bit on the song selections and play them better.
But then, I'm only going to 2 shows. Those who are going to 5+ might feel different.
if ur refering to practicing here, then i really got to ask to those that might know better than me--but in the pbs interview the other day Trey stated post hiatus he had become 'addicted to practicing'.
i thought the consensus was that they were not practicing much at all and definitely less than pre hiatus.
so, is Trey just lying? or is the less-practicing criticism just mostly bad rumor?
curious...
From what I remember in the PBS interview, Trey said they WERE addicted to practicing. He didn't really elaborate on whether or not they are still practicing (they're not). Plus, in the Charlie Rose interview after the break-up, Trey said they had stopped practicing after the hiatus due to other obligations and musical interests.
i'd watch teh interview agian for the exact quote, but TBH i think 'practicing' really has little to do with Trey's playing, so its probably a moot point.
obviously Page, Mike, even fish sound rehearsed and up to snuff.
also, i doubt trey's practicing less now that he's sober.
it only makes sense a 50 year old sober family man would practice more than a 30 year old celebrity junkie, lol.
seriously-- "practice?!" as Allen Iverson would say. :wink:
-- i believe Trey's playing just is what it is because of who he is at this point in time.
speaking from experience it can be Ruthlessly tough as a creative person when you get sober.
i havent even had the willpower to pick up an instrument or paint brush in the last 8 years, let alone feel comfortable playing in front of 20k phans a night.
... i really just think its a case of Time and Wear on Trey.
either that or my original instinct is he is just fucking with people. :evil:
i have always thought trey was sadistic, but thats probably just me, lol. :crazy:
Soundcheck Jam - http://www.mediafire.com/download/0d1rtk8l448c0mb/Soundcheck_2nd_Jam.mp3
Quote from: VA $l!m on July 07, 2013, 05:39:10 PM
Quote from: EdBanky on July 07, 2013, 03:11:01 PM
Quote from: VA $l!m on July 05, 2013, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: slslbs on July 05, 2013, 08:27:25 PM
Trey has been timid for about 4 years now.
I'll reserve judgement until after the weekend, but I still think that if they're not gonna spend as much time in the shed as they used to (or as they should), then it would be worth cutting back a bit on the song selections and play them better.
But then, I'm only going to 2 shows. Those who are going to 5+ might feel different.
if ur refering to practicing here, then i really got to ask to those that might know better than me--but in the pbs interview the other day Trey stated post hiatus he had become 'addicted to practicing'.
i thought the consensus was that they were not practicing much at all and definitely less than pre hiatus.
so, is Trey just lying? or is the less-practicing criticism just mostly bad rumor?
curious...
From what I remember in the PBS interview, Trey said they WERE addicted to practicing. He didn't really elaborate on whether or not they are still practicing (they're not). Plus, in the Charlie Rose interview after the break-up, Trey said they had stopped practicing after the hiatus due to other obligations and musical interests.
i'd watch teh interview agian for the exact quote, but TBH i think 'practicing' really has little to do with Trey's playing, so its probably a moot point.
obviously Page, Mike, even fish sound rehearsed and up to snuff.
also, i doubt trey's practicing less now that he's sober.
it only makes sense a 50 year old sober family man would practice more than a 30 year old celebrity junkie, lol.
seriously-- "practice?!" as Allen Iverson would say. :wink:
-- i believe Trey's playing just is what it is because of who he is at this point in time.
speaking from experience it can be Ruthlessly tough as a creative person when you get sober.
i havent even had the willpower to pick up an instrument or paint brush in the last 8 years, let alone feel comfortable playing in front of 20k phans a night.
... i really just think its a case of Time and Wear on Trey.
either that or my original instinct is he is just fucking with people. :evil:
i have always thought trey was sadistic, but thats probably just me, lol. :crazy:
Meh. Practice would be a big help. And new ways of looking at the music in general. Drop that annoying intro to DwD - that got old by '97. Speed some shit up. Slow some shit down. Practice Taste for four straight hours some damn Tuesday afternoon. Fix the break in Ghost. Drop the old tired covers like RnR, Drowned and Boogie On. Take a chance and move Gin to the second set. Learn to play Foam again and play it.
This is their fifth major tour and in some ways, they're worse than they were in 2009.
Mostly they are the same. More whale means less good playing from Trey. I hear the same issues with flubs, track selection, execution, botched transitions - name it.
It's four years later. They've played almost 180 shows since the return. I generally love a standard 3.0 show in person.....but most of these traits and bad habits are completely ridiculous this deep into this period. Denver gave some hope. But you get one of those every 50 shows.
They're rich and they could practice if they chose or if Trey could give up his NYC sheik lifestyle. I'm just sick of them phoning in so much of their average performance.
Quote from: Undermind on July 11, 2013, 09:39:59 PM
Soundcheck Jam - http://www.mediafire.com/download/0d1rtk8l448c0mb/Soundcheck_2nd_Jam.mp3
:beers:
Sounds familiar.
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on July 05, 2013, 01:45:53 PM
Thanks for this vid. As apparently the lone voice of PBS enthusiasm in this thread so far, Jeffrey Brown typically does a good job - particularly with writers - but I would agree here that he was out of his element. He doesn't do musicians very often, and when he does it is to variable results (search on YouTube for his interview with the Montanan writer Jim Harrison to see where he excels).
It makes me :cry: to hear Trey speak of practice in the past tense continually throughout this interview. All of the praise he gives the concertmasters, and he can't put it together that they practice daily, long hours, to MAINTAIN where they are. He seems to think all those exercises in Phish's past from 1983-199whenever are like tattoos which remain indefinitely rather than the transient fever rash of inspiration and ambition they really are.
Frustrating, but, ultimately, not terminal for this :phish: head.
:music:
As someone mentioned in the LST's in the past couple of shows, they think they are playing Foam as good as is required (as evidenced by ticket sales and interweb chatter).
I think he is seeing these years as fruits of labor from years past, rather than an opportunity to achieve virtuosity on his instrument (and it should be said becoming the best composer he can be - I really miss how Phish's sound used to be SYMPHONIC in a way it never is these days).
As for Page, this is the best he has ever been imo. I'll let others vouch or vet Mike/Fish, but as far as Page is concerned, he is a wonderful example of practicing.
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on July 11, 2013, 10:36:51 PM
As for Page, this is the best he has ever been imo. I'll let others vouch or vet Mike/Fish, but as far as Page is concerned, he is a wonderful example of practicing.
That being said, I highly doubt Page is dedicating a large percentage of his time to practicing Phish material.
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on July 12, 2013, 07:06:13 PM
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on July 11, 2013, 10:36:51 PM
As for Page, this is the best he has ever been imo. I'll let others vouch or vet Mike/Fish, but as far as Page is concerned, he is a wonderful example of practicing.
That being said, I highly doubt Page is dedicating a large percentage of his time to practicing Phish material.
Correct me if im wrong, but Perhaps with only a few exceptions of stuff they've played so far, he doesn't necessarily have to practice phish material to still be on top of his game, where as other members of the band def do, ahem, I mean should have. That said, it would imagine songs like its ice and maze are pretty difficult to execute without practice.
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on July 12, 2013, 07:06:13 PM
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on July 11, 2013, 10:36:51 PM
As for Page, this is the best he has ever been imo. I'll let others vouch or vet Mike/Fish, but as far as Page is concerned, he is a wonderful example of practicing.
That being said, I highly doubt Page is dedicating a large percentage of his time to practicing Phish material.
Very much what Antelope said. In addition to his own release and the work put in for that, if he is practicing the classical/20th century repertoire, then he will continue to improve.
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on July 12, 2013, 07:44:45 PM
Quote from: Buffalo Budd on July 12, 2013, 07:06:13 PM
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on July 11, 2013, 10:36:51 PM
As for Page, this is the best he has ever been imo. I'll let others vouch or vet Mike/Fish, but as far as Page is concerned, he is a wonderful example of practicing.
That being said, I highly doubt Page is dedicating a large percentage of his time to practicing Phish material.
Very much what Antelope said. In addition to his own release and the work put in for that, if he is practicing the classical/20th century repertoire, then he will continue to improve.
and I'm sure Trey is practicing too. the difference being Trey is practicing cheesy Broadway tunes instead of phish... or jazz... or classical... or anything that requires much music theory or precision.
Has anyone seen a picture of the giant anniversary card the fans gave trey at the end of the first set?
Or got a link?
Quote from: redrum on July 16, 2013, 11:36:46 AM
Has anyone seen a picture of the giant anniversary card the fans gave trey at the end of the first set?
Or got a link?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1008920_541750242529451_1381831984_o.jpg)
Thanks.
But "Always being there"?
Did they forget about '04-'09, and the other years?
Quote from: redrum on July 17, 2013, 01:45:33 PM
Thanks.
But "Always being there"?
Did they forget about '04-'09, and the other years?
we had 70 volt parade and the zooma tour
Quote from: DoW on July 17, 2013, 01:51:56 PM
Quote from: redrum on July 17, 2013, 01:45:33 PM
Thanks.
But "Always being there"?
Did they forget about '04-'09, and the other years?
we had 70 volt parade and the zooma tour
dude...
http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=1271.0
Quote from: redrum on July 17, 2013, 01:45:33 PM
Thanks.
But "Always being there"?
Did they forget about '04-'09, and the other years?
I think they mean always being there in the sense that Europe '72 will always be there for us...
This Antelope breaks form more than any other 3.0 version I can think of. Then it kicks into high gear for the big finish. Even the pitch-bending doesn't ruin it. Good stuff!
This 2001 holds up too as one of the best 3.0 2001's imo
nice laid back and patient