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Question: Round 4 - Elite 8 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Option 1: 1-Bob Marley votes: 16
Option 2: 2-Jimi Hendrix votes: 28
Title: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: UncleEbinezer on March 30, 2011, 10:10:04 PM
Round 4 - Elite 8 - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: mbw on March 30, 2011, 10:13:09 PM
awww shit.

sorry jimi.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: mistercharlie on March 30, 2011, 10:15:29 PM
 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: McGrupp on March 30, 2011, 10:18:28 PM
Jimi.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: UncleEbinezer on March 30, 2011, 10:22:31 PM
As much as I love Jimi, I can't "hear" Jimi.   :hereitisyousentimentalbastard

Seriously, I have every Bob album, box set and live music.  This man (Bob Marley) has moved me and I feel like made a more significant impact to the world as a whole than Jimi did. 
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: mistercharlie on March 30, 2011, 10:22:49 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on March 30, 2011, 10:15:29 PM
:mrgreen:

That's a vote for Jimi by the way.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 30, 2011, 10:32:33 PM
Quote from: McGrupp on March 30, 2011, 10:18:28 PM
Jimi.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: birdman on March 30, 2011, 11:01:06 PM
Robert.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: Lifeboy on March 30, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 30, 2011, 10:32:33 PM
Quote from: McGrupp on March 30, 2011, 10:18:28 PM
Jimi.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: sls.stormyrider on March 30, 2011, 11:06:41 PM
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 30, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 30, 2011, 10:32:33 PM
Quote from: McGrupp on March 30, 2011, 10:18:28 PM
Jimi.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: ytowndan on March 30, 2011, 11:09:57 PM
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Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: susep on March 30, 2011, 11:10:30 PM
tough thread here in the elite 8, I'll have to think this one over.  as much as I love Jimi, I have evolved to appreciate Bob on similar levels.  both are shamanic in their influence.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: PIE-GUY on March 30, 2011, 11:11:35 PM
N.E.S.T.A.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: cactusfan on March 30, 2011, 11:14:42 PM
Hendrix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y2_aDVWfJc
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: mbw on March 30, 2011, 11:18:33 PM
as relevant now as ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPZydAotVOY
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: sls.stormyrider on March 30, 2011, 11:19:05 PM
Quote from: susep73 on March 30, 2011, 11:10:30 PM
tough thread here in the elite 8, I'll have to think this one over.  as much as I love Jimi, I have evolved to appreciate Bob on similar levels.  both are shamanic in their influence.
:-o
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: barnesy305 on March 30, 2011, 11:35:33 PM
Sorry Bob, I'm a guitar player, going with James.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 30, 2011, 11:41:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_FlX3cUx-A

if you've ever tripped while listening to this...you'd never pick bob marley.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: MeltMe on March 30, 2011, 11:58:30 PM
Jimi...not a second of thought going with Bob.  I stopped listening to Bob on my own in my freshman year of high school, right around the same time :phish: found me.
Comparing Jimi to Bob in a musical sense just isnt fair to Bob imo.  What Bob did as a person is a different story...
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: anthrax on March 31, 2011, 12:17:21 AM
tough call

:? :? :?
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 12:20:45 AM
Fuck man, it's kind of a guy who was more important to music (Jimi) vs. a guy who was more important to just the world in general (Bob).

Hmmm, the world is overrared but music is not, so I'll go Jimi. 
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: anthrax on March 31, 2011, 12:23:59 AM
Quote from: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 12:20:45 AM
Fuck man, it's kind of a guy who was more important to music (Jimi) vs. a guy who was more important to just the world in general (Bob).


That's a good way of putting it. 

But I think I put Bob in much more than I put Jimi in.  A good Bob tune can change my whole mood.  I think I just decided.

Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: mbw on March 31, 2011, 12:26:56 AM
jimi would vote:  "groovy baby.  i gotta vote for bob, baby."

bob would vote:  "irie"
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: Lifeboy on March 31, 2011, 12:27:25 AM
Quote from: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 12:20:45 AM
Fuck man, it's kind of a guy who was more important to music (Jimi) vs. a guy who was more important to just the world in general (Bob).

Hmmm, the world is overrared but music is not, so I'll go Jimi.

I just vote based on who I like better.



Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on March 31, 2011, 12:26:56 AM
jimi would vote:  "groovy baby.  i gotta vote for bob, baby."

bob would vote:  "irie"


:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: Buffalo Budd on March 31, 2011, 12:30:00 AM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on March 30, 2011, 10:13:09 PM
awww shit.

sorry jimi.
Love Jimi but Bob will always hold a special place in my musical heart.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: ytowndan on March 31, 2011, 12:30:25 AM
I know that only 20 people have voted so far, but I'm kind of surprised that it's so lopsided.  I wasn't expecting to see one person up by almost double the amount of votes. 
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: mbw on March 31, 2011, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: ytowndan on March 31, 2011, 12:30:25 AM
I know that only 20 people have voted so far, but I'm kind of surprised that it's so lopsided.  I wasn't expecting to see one person up by almost double the amount of votes.

let the lobbying begin!

Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on March 24, 2011, 08:54:39 PM
ever see an actual prophet, in a trance, command lightning?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkgO8tiuT5o
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: WhatstheUse? on March 31, 2011, 01:27:30 AM
love them both but went with Marley.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 10:10:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uug3EahDVo0
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on March 30, 2011, 11:18:33 PM
as relevant now as ever.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: zimbra on March 31, 2011, 12:12:47 PM
Quote from: slslbs on March 30, 2011, 11:06:41 PM
Quote from: Lifeboy on March 30, 2011, 11:02:49 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 30, 2011, 10:32:33 PM
Quote from: McGrupp on March 30, 2011, 10:18:28 PM
Jimi.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: gah on March 31, 2011, 01:33:07 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on March 30, 2011, 11:18:33 PM
as relevant now as ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPZydAotVOY

Watching that, and what happens there at 3:59-4:11...it's not even magical, it's otherworldly...I cannot deny anyone's posts or youtube clips, or whatever concerning Jimi, but Marley has become a hero of mythical proportions the world over. I was thinking thinking about this the other day, PG's statement concerning the Beatles and Beethoven being the cornerstones of music, which in a Euro-centric way might be completely true, but the world over, Central and South America, Asia, Africa, etc, it is the music of Bob Marley that you are likely to hear. Honestly, if you've never understood Marley past the middle class white kids smoking dope listening to Legend relevance, that's a damn shame, and I feel sorry for you.

Expect continued lobbying in his favor from this guy...
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: susep on March 31, 2011, 01:51:27 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 01:33:07 PM
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on March 30, 2011, 11:18:33 PM
as relevant now as ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPZydAotVOY

Watching that, and what happens there at 3:59-4:11...it's not even magical, it's otherworldly...I cannot deny anyone's posts or youtube clips, or whatever concerning Jimi, but Marley has become a hero of mythical proportions the world over. I was thinking thinking about this the other day, PG's statement concerning the Beatles and Beethoven being the cornerstones of music, which in a Euro-centric way might be completely true, but the world over, Central and South America, Asia, Africa, etc, it is the music of Bob Marley that you are likely to hear. Honestly, if you've never understood Marley past the middle class white kids smoking dope listening to Legend relevance, that's a damn shame, and I feel sorry for you.

Expect continued lobbying in his favor from this guy...

this story reminds me of my first trip to the Philippines in '07.  I was on the Manila MRT(their subway) and I saw this dude wearing a Jimi shirt w/ the same print/logo as seen on the LP Kiss The Sky.  I was certainly impressed and wanted to introduce myself but his train took off.  Either way I was stoked and very happy and surprised to see that.
its also like Quincy Jones said after MJ died, the idea that no matter where he was in the world, Calcutta, Rio, Marseille he would always hear MJ cranking in taxis, airports, restaurants.  bottomline music, esp. good music is universal. 
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 02:26:59 PM
The measuring stick by which any electric guitar player may be judged...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgGGM1t9cQQ
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: birdman on March 31, 2011, 03:11:15 PM
Just to add some fuel here...
Records sold worldwide:

Hendrix: 80 million

Marley: low estimates 150-200 million
           High estimates close to 300 million

With this in mind, who was more influential?
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 31, 2011, 03:13:25 PM
If record sales indicated influence, the Velvet Underground and the Talking Heads did not influence many at all.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: gah on March 31, 2011, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 02:26:59 PM
The measuring stick by which any electric guitar player may be judged...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgGGM1t9cQQ

The electric guitar, I'd argue, is the defining musical instrument of rock music. And in terms of those that have played it, Jimi is one of, if not THE King, of that instrument. No doubting that. The things he does with a guitar are phenomenal. But, like jazz music in some ways, it requires a little bit of understanding to appreciate just what he's doing (not us mind you, those that have grown up in America listening to rock- but the average citizen of the world). Marleys music and message is universal. You don't even have to understand the words in order to feel good, just listen to the melodies, whereas to someone that doesn't know what they're hearing could call that what Jimi just did there noise and offensive to their ears.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 03:36:42 PM
Quote from: birdman on March 31, 2011, 03:11:15 PM
Just to add some fuel here...
Records sold worldwide:

Hendrix: 80 million

Marley: low estimates 150-200 million
           High estimates close to 300 million

With this in mind, who was more influential?

All it takes is guys like Townsend and Clapton seeing Hendrix live and changing the way they play forever to make Hendrix more influential.

I mean how many records has Robert Johnson sold?
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 31, 2011, 03:43:19 PM
Quote from: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 03:36:42 PM
Quote from: birdman on March 31, 2011, 03:11:15 PM
Just to add some fuel here...
Records sold worldwide:

Hendrix: 80 million

Marley: low estimates 150-200 million
           High estimates close to 300 million

With this in mind, who was more influential?

All it takes is guys like Townsend and Clapton seeing Hendrix live and changing the way they play forever to make Hendrix more influential.

I mean how many records has Robert Johnson sold?

Jimi was one of the major influences behind Miles going electric.

His influence was not solely limited to the "rock" sphere.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: gah on March 31, 2011, 03:48:44 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 31, 2011, 03:43:19 PM
Quote from: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 03:36:42 PM
Quote from: birdman on March 31, 2011, 03:11:15 PM
Just to add some fuel here...
Records sold worldwide:

Hendrix: 80 million

Marley: low estimates 150-200 million
           High estimates close to 300 million

With this in mind, who was more influential?

All it takes is guys like Townsend and Clapton seeing Hendrix live and changing the way they play forever to make Hendrix more influential.

I mean how many records has Robert Johnson sold?

Jimi was one of the major influences behind Miles going electric.

His influence was not solely limited to the "rock" sphere.

I can understand the idea of musical influence, and how it adds to any individuals credibiltiy. It's something that's been discussed in almost all of these match-ups, about how musician a influenced musician b, etc. But what about a musicians ability to influence everyone that heard his message, whose words go on to not influence how someone plays an instrument, but instead how someone lives their life. His ability to take music to that spiritual level is relevant. I think most of us feel music on a very personal and passionate level, even in a religious way for some, hell we wouldn't spend all day discussing music if we didn't feel that way. I just feel like Marley blended those two things perfectly. His words have lead many to live better lives...

"Life and Jah are one in the same. Jah is the gift of existence. I am in some way eternal, I will never be duplicated. The singularity of every man and woman is Jah's gift. What we struggle to make of it is our sole gift to Jah. The process of what that struggle becomes, in time, the Truth."
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 03:54:12 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 03:48:44 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 31, 2011, 03:43:19 PM
Quote from: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 03:36:42 PM
Quote from: birdman on March 31, 2011, 03:11:15 PM
Just to add some fuel here...
Records sold worldwide:

Hendrix: 80 million

Marley: low estimates 150-200 million
           High estimates close to 300 million

With this in mind, who was more influential?

All it takes is guys like Townsend and Clapton seeing Hendrix live and changing the way they play forever to make Hendrix more influential.

I mean how many records has Robert Johnson sold?

Jimi was one of the major influences behind Miles going electric.

His influence was not solely limited to the "rock" sphere.

I can understand the idea of musical influence, and how it adds to any individuals credibiltiy. It's something that's been discussed in almost all of these match-ups, about how musician a influenced musician b, etc. But what about a musicians ability to influence everyone that heard his message, whose words go on to not influence how someone plays an instrument, but instead how someone lives their life. His ability to take music to that spiritual level is relevant. I think most of us feel music on a very personal and passionate level, even in a religious way for some, hell we wouldn't spend all day discussing music if we didn't feel that way. I just feel like Marley blended those two things perfectly. His words have lead many to live better lives...

"Life and Jah are one in the same. Jah is the gift of existence. I am in some way eternal, I will never be duplicated. The singularity of every man and woman is Jah's gift. What we struggle to make of it is our sole gift to Jah. The process of what that struggle becomes, in time, the Truth."

100% agreed, I guess for me though the development of music in and of itself is just as important as all that spiritual mumbo jumbo.   :wink:

When you listen to post 67 Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughn, even Trey you are also listening to Hendrix.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 03:55:12 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 02:26:59 PM
The measuring stick by which any electric guitar player may be judged...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgGGM1t9cQQ

The electric guitar, I'd argue, is the defining musical instrument of rock music. And in terms of those that have played it, Jimi is one of, if not THE King, of that instrument. No doubting that. The things he does with a guitar are phenomenal. But, like jazz music in some ways, it requires a little bit of understanding to appreciate just what he's doing (not us mind you, those that have grown up in America listening to rock- but the average citizen of the world). Marleys music and message is universal. You don't even have to understand the words in order to feel good, just listen to the melodies, whereas to someone that doesn't know what they're hearing could call that what Jimi just did there noise and offensive to their ears.

The Spice Girls had a fairly broad, international appeal, too. And not just with music geeks... regular people loved them too!
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: WhatstheUse? on March 31, 2011, 04:01:15 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 03:55:12 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 02:26:59 PM
The measuring stick by which any electric guitar player may be judged...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgGGM1t9cQQ

The electric guitar, I'd argue, is the defining musical instrument of rock music. And in terms of those that have played it, Jimi is one of, if not THE King, of that instrument. No doubting that. The things he does with a guitar are phenomenal. But, like jazz music in some ways, it requires a little bit of understanding to appreciate just what he's doing (not us mind you, those that have grown up in America listening to rock- but the average citizen of the world). Marleys music and message is universal. You don't even have to understand the words in order to feel good, just listen to the melodies, whereas to someone that doesn't know what they're hearing could call that what Jimi just did there noise and offensive to their ears.

The Spice Girls had a fairly broad, international appeal, too. And not just with music geeks... regular people loved them too!

whats not to like?

(http://images2.layoutsparks.com/1/30188/spice-girls-sexy-beautiful-1.gif)
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 31, 2011, 04:11:02 PM
I'm pretty sure Spice Girls would have taken the tourney had they been invited.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: gah on March 31, 2011, 04:15:32 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 03:55:12 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 02:26:59 PM
The measuring stick by which any electric guitar player may be judged...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgGGM1t9cQQ

The electric guitar, I'd argue, is the defining musical instrument of rock music. And in terms of those that have played it, Jimi is one of, if not THE King, of that instrument. No doubting that. The things he does with a guitar are phenomenal. But, like jazz music in some ways, it requires a little bit of understanding to appreciate just what he's doing (not us mind you, those that have grown up in America listening to rock- but the average citizen of the world). Marleys music and message is universal. You don't even have to understand the words in order to feel good, just listen to the melodies, whereas to someone that doesn't know what they're hearing could call that what Jimi just did there noise and offensive to their ears.

The Spice Girls had a fairly broad, international appeal, too. And not just with music geeks... regular people loved them too!

I understand your rather simplistic response, but you can't dumb down Marley's message in comparison to some teen pop group that took the world by storm in the mid-90's. The Spice Girls were created by a management company for the sole purpose of appealing to the masses in a money making endeavour. Whereas Marley had a message he had to get out to the world, and the fact that it is so universal that everyone that heard it was able to relate, is the beauty of it.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: antelope19 on March 31, 2011, 04:15:51 PM
Well, I certainly didn't see this coming.  I'm pretty sure I had Bob taking the whole tourney. 
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:29:58 PM
Jimi. Duh.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: gah on March 31, 2011, 04:30:58 PM
Quote from: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:29:58 PM
Jimi. Duh.

Remind me to punch you in the face tomorrow!  :x
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:35:44 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 04:30:58 PM
Quote from: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:29:58 PM
Jimi. Duh.

Remind me to punch you in the face tomorrow!  :x

No free drink for you!
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: gah on March 31, 2011, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:35:44 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 04:30:58 PM
Quote from: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:29:58 PM
Jimi. Duh.

Remind me to punch you in the face tomorrow!  :x

No free drink for you!

HA! It's fine, I clearly am going to have to start buying votes for Marley, so I'll buy YOU a drink.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:49:50 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:35:44 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 04:30:58 PM
Quote from: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:29:58 PM
Jimi. Duh.

Remind me to punch you in the face tomorrow!  :x

No free drink for you!

HA! It's fine, I clearly am going to have to start buying votes for Marley, so I'll buy YOU a drink.

You'd hafta get me a looooooot of drinks to get me to change my vote. And yes, that's a challenge.  :wink:
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: gah on March 31, 2011, 04:56:15 PM
Quote from: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:49:50 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:35:44 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 04:30:58 PM
Quote from: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:29:58 PM
Jimi. Duh.

Remind me to punch you in the face tomorrow!  :x

No free drink for you!

HA! It's fine, I clearly am going to have to start buying votes for Marley, so I'll buy YOU a drink.

You'd hafta get me a looooooot of drinks to get me to change my vote. And yes, that's a challenge.  :wink:

I hope you like whiskey and moonshine, because that's what I'm bringing!  :samurai:
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:57:48 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 04:56:15 PM
Quote from: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:49:50 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:35:44 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 04:30:58 PM
Quote from: qop24 on March 31, 2011, 04:29:58 PM
Jimi. Duh.

Remind me to punch you in the face tomorrow!  :x

No free drink for you!

HA! It's fine, I clearly am going to have to start buying votes for Marley, so I'll buy YOU a drink.

You'd hafta get me a looooooot of drinks to get me to change my vote. And yes, that's a challenge.  :wink:

I hope you like whiskey and moonshine, because that's what I'm bringing!  :samurai:

2 of my favorite things in life!
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: kellerb on March 31, 2011, 06:51:31 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on March 31, 2011, 04:01:15 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 03:55:12 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 02:26:59 PM
The measuring stick by which any electric guitar player may be judged...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgGGM1t9cQQ

The electric guitar, I'd argue, is the defining musical instrument of rock music. And in terms of those that have played it, Jimi is one of, if not THE King, of that instrument. No doubting that. The things he does with a guitar are phenomenal. But, like jazz music in some ways, it requires a little bit of understanding to appreciate just what he's doing (not us mind you, those that have grown up in America listening to rock- but the average citizen of the world). Marleys music and message is universal. You don't even have to understand the words in order to feel good, just listen to the melodies, whereas to someone that doesn't know what they're hearing could call that what Jimi just did there noise and offensive to their ears.

The Spice Girls had a fairly broad, international appeal, too. And not just with music geeks... regular people loved them too!

whats not to like?

(http://images2.layoutsparks.com/1/30188/spice-girls-sexy-beautiful-1.gif)

That picture captures the spice girls at their peak:  Young, Hot, scantily-clad, Not-yet-broke-down-and-tore-up, and blessedly silent.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: sls.stormyrider on March 31, 2011, 07:05:52 PM
talking about influences these guys had on music-

If it wasn't for Jimi, the Monkees wouldn't have had an opening act on their summer 67 tour

If it wasn't for Bob, Trey would have had to name his dog Spot, or something like that. And what would Mar-Mar's screen name be??



think about it and vote accordingly
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 07:09:35 PM
Quote from: kellerb on March 31, 2011, 06:51:31 PM
That picture captures the spice girls at their peak:  Young, Hot, scantily-clad, Not-yet-broke-done-and-tore-up, and blessedly silent.

Good show, old chap!
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: Hicks on March 31, 2011, 08:00:39 PM
Quote from: slslbs on March 31, 2011, 07:05:52 PM

If it wasn't for Jimi, the Monkees wouldn't have had an opening act on their summer 67 tour


Didn't they kick him off the tour pretty quickly?
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: sls.stormyrider on March 31, 2011, 08:13:13 PM
according to the ultimate, never inaccurate source of information (the interwebs), there are conflicting stories.
One has him being kicked off by the DAR for being too erotic (probably false), one has him being repeatedly booed off the stage, one has him sick of being associated with the Monkees and their fans. The best story is his "salute" to the crowd after his final performance after 7 shows
In their defense, the Monkees themselves supposedly appreciated him for the genius he was.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 08:40:08 PM
Quote from: slslbs on March 31, 2011, 08:13:13 PM
according to the ultimate, never inaccurate source of information (the interwebs), there are conflicting stories.
One has him being kicked off by the DAR for being too erotic (probably false), one has him being repeatedly booed off the stage, one has him sick of being associated with the Monkees and their fans. The best story is his "salute" to the crowd after his final performance after 7 shows
In their defense, the Monkees themselves supposedly appreciated him for the genius he was.

They don't monkey around.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: sls.stormyrider on March 31, 2011, 08:40:54 PM
people say they do
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 08:42:06 PM
Naw, they're to busy singing.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: sls.stormyrider on March 31, 2011, 08:49:08 PM
won't put anybody down
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 08:51:11 PM
They go wherever they want to.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: susep on March 31, 2011, 08:52:37 PM
Quote from: slslbs on March 31, 2011, 08:13:13 PM
In their defense, the Monkees themselves supposedly appreciated him for the genius he was.

they loved having him on their tour because they got to see him every night as described by Monkees producer/songwriter Tommy Boyce:
Quote
It was a personal trip.  They wanted to watch Jimi Hendrix every night.  They didn't care of he fit.

After Hendrix bombed his second show in Miami singer/songwriter Vince Martin asked Peter Tork:
Quote"Peter why are you subjecting Jimi to this?"  he said, "I love him.  He's got to work."

Peter Tork:
Quote
We got high together.  We had this DC6, with this lounge in the back.  There were some reporters on the plane, so we would leave the reporters in the front and go into the back and smoke it up.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: sls.stormyrider on March 31, 2011, 08:54:47 PM
Quote from: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 08:51:11 PM
They go wherever they want to.

yep, and do what they like to do
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 08:56:21 PM
They don't have time to get restless.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: sls.stormyrider on March 31, 2011, 08:57:06 PM
there's always something new
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 09:12:38 PM
They're just trying to be friendly.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: sls.stormyrider on March 31, 2011, 09:26:31 PM
go - watch them sing and play
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: mistercharlie on March 31, 2011, 09:50:37 PM
They're the young generation.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: sls.stormyrider on March 31, 2011, 10:01:08 PM
they've got something to say
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on March 31, 2011, 10:31:27 PM
Hey!
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: Lifeboy on March 31, 2011, 10:41:51 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 02:26:59 PM
The measuring stick by which any electric guitar player may be judged...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgGGM1t9cQQ

"gotta stop smokin'....i mean UH...huh....cigarette smokin'"
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 11:03:55 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 04:15:32 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 03:55:12 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 02:26:59 PM
The measuring stick by which any electric guitar player may be judged...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgGGM1t9cQQ

The electric guitar, I'd argue, is the defining musical instrument of rock music. And in terms of those that have played it, Jimi is one of, if not THE King, of that instrument. No doubting that. The things he does with a guitar are phenomenal. But, like jazz music in some ways, it requires a little bit of understanding to appreciate just what he's doing (not us mind you, those that have grown up in America listening to rock- but the average citizen of the world). Marleys music and message is universal. You don't even have to understand the words in order to feel good, just listen to the melodies, whereas to someone that doesn't know what they're hearing could call that what Jimi just did there noise and offensive to their ears.

The Spice Girls had a fairly broad, international appeal, too. And not just with music geeks... regular people loved them too!

I understand your rather simplistic response, but you can't dumb down Marley's message in comparison to some teen pop group that took the world by storm in the mid-90's. The Spice Girls were created by a management company for the sole purpose of appealing to the masses in a money making endeavour. Whereas Marley had a message he had to get out to the world, and the fact that it is so universal that everyone that heard it was able to relate, is the beauty of it.

You wanna talk about "universality"... I can talk about "broad" appeal.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: Hicks on April 01, 2011, 01:15:07 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 11:03:55 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 04:15:32 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 03:55:12 PM
Quote from: goodabouthood on March 31, 2011, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on March 31, 2011, 02:26:59 PM
The measuring stick by which any electric guitar player may be judged...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgGGM1t9cQQ

The electric guitar, I'd argue, is the defining musical instrument of rock music. And in terms of those that have played it, Jimi is one of, if not THE King, of that instrument. No doubting that. The things he does with a guitar are phenomenal. But, like jazz music in some ways, it requires a little bit of understanding to appreciate just what he's doing (not us mind you, those that have grown up in America listening to rock- but the average citizen of the world). Marleys music and message is universal. You don't even have to understand the words in order to feel good, just listen to the melodies, whereas to someone that doesn't know what they're hearing could call that what Jimi just did there noise and offensive to their ears.

The Spice Girls had a fairly broad, international appeal, too. And not just with music geeks... regular people loved them too!

I understand your rather simplistic response, but you can't dumb down Marley's message in comparison to some teen pop group that took the world by storm in the mid-90's. The Spice Girls were created by a management company for the sole purpose of appealing to the masses in a money making endeavour. Whereas Marley had a message he had to get out to the world, and the fact that it is so universal that everyone that heard it was able to relate, is the beauty of it.

You wanna talk about "universality"... I can talk about "broad" appeal.

HEY YO!
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: cactusfan on April 01, 2011, 03:51:20 AM
Quote from: susep73 on March 31, 2011, 08:52:37 PM
Quote from: slslbs on March 31, 2011, 08:13:13 PM
In their defense, the Monkees themselves supposedly appreciated him for the genius he was.

they loved having him on their tour because they got to see him every night as described by Monkees producer/songwriter Tommy Boyce:
Quote
It was a personal trip.  They wanted to watch Jimi Hendrix every night.  They didn't care of he fit.

After Hendrix bombed his second show in Miami singer/songwriter Vince Martin asked Peter Tork:
Quote"Peter why are you subjecting Jimi to this?"  he said, "I love him.  He's got to work."

Peter Tork:
Quote
We got high together.  We had this DC6, with this lounge in the back.  There were some reporters on the plane, so we would leave the reporters in the front and go into the back and smoke it up.

if you've ever seen the Monkees movie Head, you know they knew exactly what they were and how to make fun of it. Zappa makes a memorable appearance in it, among others peoples...
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: susep on April 01, 2011, 07:31:01 AM
Quote from: cactusfan on April 01, 2011, 03:51:20 AM
Quote from: susep73 on March 31, 2011, 08:52:37 PM
Quote from: slslbs on March 31, 2011, 08:13:13 PM
In their defense, the Monkees themselves supposedly appreciated him for the genius he was.

they loved having him on their tour because they got to see him every night as described by Monkees producer/songwriter Tommy Boyce:
Quote
It was a personal trip.  They wanted to watch Jimi Hendrix every night.  They didn't care of he fit.

After Hendrix bombed his second show in Miami singer/songwriter Vince Martin asked Peter Tork:
Quote"Peter why are you subjecting Jimi to this?"  he said, "I love him.  He's got to work."

Peter Tork:
Quote
We got high together.  We had this DC6, with this lounge in the back.  There were some reporters on the plane, so we would leave the reporters in the front and go into the back and smoke it up.

if you've ever seen the Monkees movie Head, you know they knew exactly what they were and how to make fun of it. Zappa makes a memorable appearance in it, among others peoples...

nice, I'd like to see it.

edit - as difficult a vote, I went w/ Hendrix. 
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 01, 2011, 08:32:43 AM
Quote from: cactusfan on April 01, 2011, 03:51:20 AM
Quote from: susep73 on March 31, 2011, 08:52:37 PM
Quote from: slslbs on March 31, 2011, 08:13:13 PM
In their defense, the Monkees themselves supposedly appreciated him for the genius he was.

they loved having him on their tour because they got to see him every night as described by Monkees producer/songwriter Tommy Boyce:
Quote
It was a personal trip.  They wanted to watch Jimi Hendrix every night.  They didn't care of he fit.

After Hendrix bombed his second show in Miami singer/songwriter Vince Martin asked Peter Tork:
Quote"Peter why are you subjecting Jimi to this?"  he said, "I love him.  He's got to work."

Peter Tork:
Quote
We got high together.  We had this DC6, with this lounge in the back.  There were some reporters on the plane, so we would leave the reporters in the front and go into the back and smoke it up.

if you've ever seen the Monkees movie Head, you know they knew exactly what they were and how to make fun of it. Zappa makes a memorable appearance in it, among others peoples...

This.  One of my prized pieces of vinyl that I inherited from my parents is my copy of Head on vinyl.  I was more pumped about finding that then I was about the copy of Herbie Hancock's "Thrust" and Pet Sounds mono original pressing.

Shit is deep.
Title: Re: Elite 8 - Round 4 - Natty Dread Region - 1-Bob Marley v 2-Jimi Hendrix
Post by: gah on April 01, 2011, 10:16:06 AM
Quote from: susep73 on April 01, 2011, 07:31:01 AM
Quote from: cactusfan on April 01, 2011, 03:51:20 AM
Quote from: susep73 on March 31, 2011, 08:52:37 PM
Quote from: slslbs on March 31, 2011, 08:13:13 PM
In their defense, the Monkees themselves supposedly appreciated him for the genius he was.

they loved having him on their tour because they got to see him every night as described by Monkees producer/songwriter Tommy Boyce:
Quote
It was a personal trip.  They wanted to watch Jimi Hendrix every night.  They didn't care of he fit.

After Hendrix bombed his second show in Miami singer/songwriter Vince Martin asked Peter Tork:
Quote"Peter why are you subjecting Jimi to this?"  he said, "I love him.  He's got to work."

Peter Tork:
Quote
We got high together.  We had this DC6, with this lounge in the back.  There were some reporters on the plane, so we would leave the reporters in the front and go into the back and smoke it up.

if you've ever seen the Monkees movie Head, you know they knew exactly what they were and how to make fun of it. Zappa makes a memorable appearance in it, among others peoples...

nice, I'd like to see it.

edit - as difficult a vote, I went w/ Hendrix.

I just appreciate you considering it.