Is it just me, or is it wild that they are having meetings in congress to discuss aliens/'non-human biologics' found at alleged crash sites?!? Am I crazy or isn't this like... the biggest news, ever?
I'm generally in the Neil deGrasee Tyson camp (to paraphrase) "I'd love if we found aliens but if there's millions of cameras on earth... why haven't we seen any reliable evidence? ...And do we actually believe our government is capable of keeping such a thing secret."
Anyways, it's just fun to think about and wild that there's real government discussion happenning about it.
At the very least, there seem to be unidentified objects of some sort that we don't understand the technology of. So... that's cool I guess.
What do y'all think?
They mostly come at night.
Mostly.
I find it fascinating and a tad terrifying at the same time. I wish they would just show the evidence (other than film and photos) that they have. It just gives you that rotten feeling that world govts are setting us up for something.
They had never seen a southern home... and they liked it! A little better than the UAP.
I think that just because congress is discussing it, it's not necessarily a real thing.
I also think the following about Aliens in general:
The universe is massive so, statistically, it's probable that there is life out there.
But as you consider the probability around life developing intelligence, civilization, and technology... the odds decrease. I mean, they'd have to make massive leaps beyond us (and I'm not so vain as think think that no one could) that would probably include something along the lines of fusion and breaking the light barrier in order to make faster than light travel possible.
Then, in this vast universe, that civilization would have to have the dumb luck to stumble across us.
Impossible? No.
Highly improbable? You bet your ass.
Plus, any aliens that did find us, if they could exist in our environment, would either be too enlightened and chill to even want to fuck with these maniacs on this planet, or they would scrape us off their boots as they took our resources.
I feel vindicated to a degree that they admitted they exist or have some first hand accounts. The fact that he said they have alien biological matter is pretty crazy too. It's like an X files ep unfolding in front of our eyes except none of them were chain smoking cigs.
I thought the section about how that agent believes they use a concept like the 'holographic principle' to visit us was even more interesting than admitting we have seen UFOs. That's pretty much admitting there is a way to project your physical being into a parallel universe or timeline without actually going there. Obviously he knows a lot of classified stuff so how he got to that conclusion is probably pretty mind boggling.
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 28, 2023, 11:07:22 AMI think that just because congress is discussing it, it's not necessarily a real thing.
I also think the following about Aliens in general:
The universe is massive so, statistically, it's probable that there is life out there.
But as you consider the probability around life developing intelligence, civilization, and technology... the odds decrease. I mean, they'd have to make massive leaps beyond us (and I'm not so vain as think think that no one could) that would probably include something along the lines of fusion and breaking the light barrier in order to make faster than light travel possible.
Then, in this vast universe, that civilization would have to have the dumb luck to stumble across us.
Impossible? No.
Highly improbable? You bet your ass.
Plus, any aliens that did find us, if they could exist in our environment, would either be too enlightened and chill to even want to fuck with these maniacs on this planet, or they would scrape us off their boots as they took our resources.
You're leaving out a crucial detail though, the age of the universe/milky way.
At 13 billion years old, lifeforms much older than us could have easily traversed the galaxy, even at sub-light speed travel.
When you consider there may have been extra terrestrials cruising around the galaxy for over 10 billion years, the likelihood of them finding us becomes more probable.
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 28, 2023, 11:07:22 AMI think that just because congress is discussing it, it's not necessarily a real thing.
I also think the following about Aliens in general:
The universe is massive so, statistically, it's probable that there is life out there.
But as you consider the probability around life developing intelligence, civilization, and technology... the odds decrease. I mean, they'd have to make massive leaps beyond us (and I'm not so vain as think think that no one could) that would probably include something along the lines of fusion and breaking the light barrier in order to make faster than light travel possible.
Then, in this vast universe, that civilization would have to have the dumb luck to stumble across us.
Impossible? No.
Highly improbable? You bet your ass.
Plus, any aliens that did find us, if they could exist in our environment, would either be too enlightened and chill to even want to fuck with these maniacs on this planet, or they would scrape us off their boots as they took our resources.
This... and...
Quote from: Hicks on July 28, 2023, 03:21:29 AMThey mostly come at night.
Mostly.
That's what she said.
Sorry, had to be done.
I thought this thread was going to be about the sequel to Alien.
I will hold my judgement until slim has weighed in.
Quote from: VDB on July 28, 2023, 07:12:03 PMI thought this thread was going to be about the sequel to Alien.
Quote from: Hicks on July 28, 2023, 03:21:29 AMThey mostly come at night.
Mostly.
Can't get 60 billion for Space Force without some alien scare.
Quote from: mbw on July 29, 2023, 04:28:54 PMCan't get 60 billion for Space Force without some alien scare.
Preach.
Here's the thing - it's far more likely that alien life has existed at some time somewhere than it is likely that it exists now at this time somewhere. Billions of years and billions of areas of space. There is zero chance that we are the only sentient beings ever.... but there is also very little chance that we are the we will encounter any other sentient beings from other galaxies in our extremely brief time alive. That is how I see it.
Quote from: PIE-GUY on July 30, 2023, 04:17:00 AMHere's the thing - it's far more likely that alien life has existed at some time somewhere than it is likely that it exists now at this time somewhere. Billions of years and billions of areas of space. There is zero chance that we are the only sentient beings ever.... but there is also very little chance that we are the we will encounter any other sentient beings from other galaxies in our extremely brief time alive. That is how I see it.
That's what I'm sayin'.
Though to address Hicks' point about the universe/galaxy being so old that there's been plenty of time for other civilizations to reach interstellar maturity, you do need to factor in that the earliest stars were basic. all of the elements had to be made in stars which then had to explode to spread elements across the cosmos. This takes quite a bit of time. THEN the elements have to come together in just the right way (of which I'm sure there are many) for life and civilizations to thrive. This too takes time.
For any of it to get fast-tracked (by which I mean for life and civilizations to form on the earliest examples of element-rich planets) is not impossible but increasingly improbable.
Quote from: sunrisevt on July 30, 2023, 03:13:58 AMQuote from: mbw on July 29, 2023, 04:28:54 PMCan't get 60 billion for Space Force without some alien scare.
Preach.
Yeah this makes the most sense.