06/01/2011
PNC Bank Arts Center
Holmdel, NJ
Soundcheck:
No Quarter
Set I:
First Tube, Stealing Time From The Faulty Plan, Camel Walk, Heavy Things, Gotta Jibboo, Wilson > Seven Below, Kill Devil Falls, Axilla I > Split Open And Melt, Suzy Greenberg
Set II:
Tweezer -> No Quarter#, Carini ~> Piper ~> Twist -> Ghost ~> Backwards Down The Numberline
Encore:
Show of Life > Tweezer Reprise
# = First Time Played (Led Zeppelin cover (ya damned dirty n00b))
Best of the first 5.
Will be listening to No Quarter as soon as I wake up in the morning. :beers: :beers:
Quote from: mistercharlie on June 01, 2011, 11:03:03 PM
Will be listening to No Quarter as soon as I wake up in the morning. :beers: :beers:
2nd'd
I missed most of the 2nd set but I am staying up to grab this one. Piper -> Twist was def smoother than ~>
Quote from: runawayjimbo on June 01, 2011, 11:07:00 PM
I missed most of the 2nd set but I am staying up to grab this one. Piper -> Twist was def smoother than ~>
Upon less drunken listening it may be amended.
Best show this summer so far. I can't wait to listen.
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 01, 2011, 11:09:10 PM
Best show this summer so far. I can't wait to listen.
Doesn't beat 05/28 imo.
I wonder how much tonights curfew weighed on Trey's mind? With all those empty seats there is a lot less of an incentive to pay the union fines for breaking curfew.
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 01, 2011, 11:09:10 PM
Best show this summer so far. I can't wait to listen.
Your lack of patience makes me think you're serious, but then I remember Kajagoogoo
i suppose all those seeming jams could be horribly aborted, and all the segues forced... but DAMN, that looks like one killer set. can't wait to check it out.
Guess I'll have to d/l it just to hear to No Quarter.
Quote from: cactusfan on June 01, 2011, 11:31:06 PM
i suppose all those seeming jams could be horribly aborted, and all the segues forced... but DAMN, that looks like one killer set. can't wait to check it out.
I think Phish is definitely going in a new direction. I for one love it! Can't wait to hear your thoughts! :beers:
Tonight was a ton of fun! First Tube opener was a great surprise!. No quarter was sick as well and got a huge reaction!
Although i thought the sound sucked at PNC (Trey was so loud and SO harsh) i liked the vibe there, lots of energy.
No where near.as.good as Bethel 2 though ....
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on June 01, 2011, 11:44:25 PM
No where near.as.good as Bethel 2 though ....
Hater
:-D
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 01, 2011, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: cactusfan on June 01, 2011, 11:31:06 PM
i suppose all those seeming jams could be horribly aborted, and all the segues forced... but DAMN, that looks like one killer set. can't wait to check it out.
I think Phish is definitely going in a new direction. I for one love it! Can't wait to hear your thoughts! :beers:
These posts will never get old!
Quote from: Hicks on June 01, 2011, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 01, 2011, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: cactusfan on June 01, 2011, 11:31:06 PM
i suppose all those seeming jams could be horribly aborted, and all the segues forced... but DAMN, that looks like one killer set. can't wait to check it out.
I think Phish is definitely going in a new direction. I for one love it! Can't wait to hear your thoughts! :beers:
These posts will never get old!
I hope I never tire of them either. I really like what phish is bringing to the table this summer. I understand that some are dissapointed, and I can understand that. They aren't the same band they were 15 years ago. They're more mature now, and want to get different things out of the live experience. I absolutely am thrilled to see where this new concise yet fluid phish takes us!
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 01, 2011, 11:49:30 PM
Quote from: Hicks on June 01, 2011, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 01, 2011, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: cactusfan on June 01, 2011, 11:31:06 PM
i suppose all those seeming jams could be horribly aborted, and all the segues forced... but DAMN, that looks like one killer set. can't wait to check it out.
I think Phish is definitely going in a new direction. I for one love it! Can't wait to hear your thoughts! :beers:
These posts will never get old!
I hope I never tire of them either. I really like what phish is bringing to the table this summer. I understand that some are dissapointed, and I can understand that. They aren't the same band they were 15 years ago. They're more mature now, and want to get different things out of the live experience. I absolutely am thrilled to see where this new concise yet fluid phish takes us!
:roll:
Quote from: Hicks on June 01, 2011, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 01, 2011, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: cactusfan on June 01, 2011, 11:31:06 PM
i suppose all those seeming jams could be horribly aborted, and all the segues forced... but DAMN, that looks like one killer set. can't wait to check it out.
I think Phish is definitely going in a new direction. I for one love it! Can't wait to hear your thoughts! :beers:
These posts will never get old!
I can see how it would get annoying. That said, I thoroughly enjoyed nearly every one of his posts this evening.
+k
I see you disagree, and I understand that. I can't really expect all of us to have the same enthusiasm for the new frontiers Phish is embarking on that I do. I respect your opinion Hicks. :beers:
sarcasm aside set two looks fun
Quote from: runawayjimbo on June 01, 2011, 11:53:46 PM
Quote from: Hicks on June 01, 2011, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 01, 2011, 11:35:45 PM
Quote from: cactusfan on June 01, 2011, 11:31:06 PM
i suppose all those seeming jams could be horribly aborted, and all the segues forced... but DAMN, that looks like one killer set. can't wait to check it out.
I think Phish is definitely going in a new direction. I for one love it! Can't wait to hear your thoughts! :beers:
These posts will never get old!
I can see how it would get annoying. That said, I thoroughly enjoyed nearly every one of his posts this evening.
+k
a lot of them were great, but he's always lacked the restraint necessary to really pull it off
Split was incredible and No Quarter was incredible. Wasn't as good as Bethel though.
Yep..... almost forgot about the Melt. I totallydug it tonight. Was still. 3.0ish but seemed more patient
Second set unfortunately suffered from some horse forcedom...
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on June 02, 2011, 12:07:17 AM
Yep..... almost forgot about the Melt. I totallydug it tonight. Was still. 3.0ish but seemed more patient
Second set unfortunately suffered from some horse forcedom...
I totally agree WTU, the Melt was TOTALLY patient. I'm so glad you got to see such a killer show tonight. I'm jealous! :beers:
Up on LP.....and What :evil:
::Begins daily smite regimen::
:samurai:
Quote from: JPhishman on June 02, 2011, 01:53:04 AM
::Begins daily smite regimen::
:samurai:
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
but seriously, just noticing now the under 8 min Ghost.... :|
That ghost is pretty incredible. I love the Scent fake out before going into Numberline. Trey totally kept us on our toes with that one.
This show is vaguely reminiscent of Fukuoka 2000 imo.
This show looks pretty decent. I can't wait to give it a listen. Especially the No Quarter cover
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 01, 2011, 11:35:45 PM
I think Phish is definitely going in a new direction. I for one love it!
If by "new direction" you mean having a 6 minute Heavy Things being longer than Piper and an 8 minute KDF being longer than a 7 minute Ghost, then I hope you die a slow, long, painful death courtesy of 3 wasted wigger hippies forcefully giving you PCP and Viagra injections, tying you to a chair, and then making you listen to sloppy Disco Biscuit shows while being tended-to by an obese woman with severe gingivitis who was fed 2 triple-stacks of molly and told she had free reign to "go to town" on you.
It's quality, not quantity my man. This is concise phish at it's greatest. I love that the band is doing in 7 minutes what it used to take them 24 minutes to do. I know it's an aquired taste like caviar that maybe not all have a refined enough palate to enjoy, but man, Phish was on their A game tonight. Not a single wasted beat or note.
kudos phish!
:beers:
Trey's a little late about his effect in that Tweezer.
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on June 02, 2011, 02:07:02 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 01, 2011, 11:35:45 PM
I think Phish is definitely going in a new direction. I for one love it!
If by "new direction" you mean having a 6 minute Heavy Things being longer than Piper and an 8 minute KDF being longer than a 7 minute Ghost, then I hope you die a slow, long, painful death courtesy of 3 wasted wigger hippies forcefully giving you PCP and Viagra injections, tying you to a chair, and then making you listen to sloppy Disco Biscuit shows while being tended-to by an obese woman with severe gingivitis who was fed 2 triple-stacks of molly and told she had free reign to "go to town" on you.
Regardless of your take on the show; this post demands special mention.
Quote from: nab on June 02, 2011, 02:35:09 AM
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on June 02, 2011, 02:07:02 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 01, 2011, 11:35:45 PM
I think Phish is definitely going in a new direction. I for one love it!
If by "new direction" you mean having a 6 minute Heavy Things being longer than Piper and an 8 minute KDF being longer than a 7 minute Ghost, then I hope you die a slow, long, painful death courtesy of 3 wasted wigger hippies forcefully giving you PCP and Viagra injections, tying you to a chair, and then making you listen to sloppy Disco Biscuit shows while being tended-to by an obese woman with severe gingivitis who was fed 2 triple-stacks of molly and told she had free reign to "go to town" on you.
Regardless of your take on the show; this post demands special mention.
If you usually just skip over what he writes, do yourself a favor and read this one. It's short and totally worth it.
Quote from: nab on June 02, 2011, 02:35:09 AM
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on June 02, 2011, 02:07:02 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 01, 2011, 11:35:45 PM
I think Phish is definitely going in a new direction. I for one love it!
If by "new direction" you mean having a 6 minute Heavy Things being longer than Piper and an 8 minute KDF being longer than a 7 minute Ghost, then I hope you die a slow, long, painful death courtesy of 3 wasted wigger hippies forcefully giving you PCP and Viagra injections, tying you to a chair, and then making you listen to sloppy Disco Biscuit shows while being tended-to by an obese woman with severe gingivitis who was fed 2 triple-stacks of molly and told she had free reign to "go to town" on you.
Regardless of your take on the show; this post demands special mention.
POTY candidate for sure.
I think he just gave us a new definition for "Spaceship boner'd".
Gumbo has seen the light.
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on June 02, 2011, 02:07:02 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 01, 2011, 11:35:45 PM
I think Phish is definitely going in a new direction. I for one love it!
If by "new direction" you mean having a 6 minute Heavy Things being longer than Piper and an 8 minute KDF being longer than a 7 minute Ghost, then I hope you die a slow, long, painful death courtesy of 3 wasted wigger hippies forcefully giving you PCP and Viagra injections, tying you to a chair, and then making you listen to sloppy Disco Biscuit shows while being tended-to by an obese woman with severe gingivitis who was fed 2 triple-stacks of molly and told she had free reign to "go to town" on you.
That's how I hope to go, eventually.
Please update thread with hate. Thanks!
Happy to oblige.
This show is more weaksauce.
Tweezer is cool and was probably awesome to dance to for eleven minutes but they don't really do anything with it aside from the rawk groove. then Trey pops the energy bubbly and the drift into No Quarter which is also cool but not something that I think they need to do on the regular. Carini rounds out the part of this show worth seeking out for a deliberate listen. The jam on the end returns us to the same place that Tweezer had hovered but then Trey drops into Piper (which sucks) and then Trey kicks it over into Twist (also sucks) and then they slam into Ghost (horrible version.)
All i've listened too is the No Quarter, and at first i was like, Shit this is awesome!! But then upon second listen i realized. Trey's tone is too harsh for the song. It needs to be smooth. But either way, will report back more when done listening to the whole show.
I posted hate here last night, not sure what happened to it. Oh, well....
I don't know how anyone can compare this show with 5/28 - it's not even close. I do agree that it' about quality over quantity, but where is the quality? A 7 1/2 min Ghost? Really? JUST as it started to get a little bit of momentum - WHAM!! Thanks Trey :roll: I don't need another Carini - pretty quick repeat IMO. A one show gap for Suzy - jeeez. And to think after 5/28, that I was giving serious consideration to hittin' up GW next week. Yeah, I'm all set now. Really dissapionted right now condering the first 2 shows.
The Bethel run was so amazing. Night I and II were awesome. And III was a good wind down but still very very awesome
6/1 is a much better show than any of the Bethel shows.
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 03, 2011, 11:39:47 AM
6/1 is a much better show than any of the Bethel shows.
Looking at the setlist, I wish I could get there, but I can't.
Quote from: mehead on June 03, 2011, 11:40:57 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 03, 2011, 11:39:47 AM
6/1 is a much better show than any of the Bethel shows.
Looking at the setlist, I wish I could get there, but I can't.
Actually the setlist looks sick imo and I actually do like most of the 1st set minus the SOAMelt. However the 2nd set is a paper whore imo. Lots of glitz and not much substance!
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 03, 2011, 11:39:47 AM
6/1 is a much better show than any of the Bethel shows.
I'm sorry, i"d have to Disagree. then again i'll say it now i'm basis for 5/27. That show ruled way more then 6/1 Sure the Boogie got fucked, and botched, but then it got so spacey and the > into Waves was good. I also think they should play more Round Room stuff. and the Cross Eyed was so good. Trey was Firing on all cylinders. Then just that huge drop in it, i forgot at what time it happened but it was dark and then just were playing some heavy shit.
Quote from: Undermind on June 03, 2011, 11:42:41 AM
Quote from: mehead on June 03, 2011, 11:40:57 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 03, 2011, 11:39:47 AM
6/1 is a much better show than any of the Bethel shows.
Looking at the setlist, I wish I could get there, but I can't.
Actually the setlist looks sick imo and I actually do like most of the 1st set minus the SOAMelt. However the 2nd set is a paper whore imo. Lots of glitz and not much substance!
That's exactly my point. That 2nd set looks nasty - pure definition of a paper tiger!
Yeah, but it's not as concise as 6/1. 6/1 did not have a wasted note.
Quote from: mehead on June 03, 2011, 11:44:19 AM
Quote from: Undermind on June 03, 2011, 11:42:41 AM
Quote from: mehead on June 03, 2011, 11:40:57 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 03, 2011, 11:39:47 AM
6/1 is a much better show than any of the Bethel shows.
Looking at the setlist, I wish I could get there, but I can't.
Actually the setlist looks sick imo and I actually do like most of the 1st set minus the SOAMelt. However the 2nd set is a paper whore imo. Lots of glitz and not much substance!
That's exactly my point. That 2nd set looks nasty - pure definition of a paper tiger!
Yeah. I like paper whore better! :-D
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 03, 2011, 11:44:42 AM
Yeah, but it's not as concise as 6/1. 6/1 did not have a wasted note.
LOL. Concise, the new patient
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 03, 2011, 11:44:42 AM
Yeah, but it's not as concise as 6/1. 6/1 did not have a wasted note.
I Thought the beginning of Trey's solo in No Quarter was kinda bad. But towards the end when he kicks off with the Wah that shit got good. But the beginning was just a bad start to a solo.
Quote from: runawayjimbo on June 03, 2011, 11:46:24 AM
LOL. Concise, the new patient
I would also say that the entire band was focused and locked in during that set.
Quote from: Multibeast12 on June 03, 2011, 11:46:33 AM
I Thought the beginning of Trey's solo in No Quarter was kinda bad. But towards the end when he kicks off with the Wah that shit got good. But the beginning was just a bad start to a solo.
I'll have to relisten, however I thought that No Quarter was :rockout: :rockout: :rockout:
i have no idea what pictures you put there, so.....you thought the No Quarter was what?
headbang banana.
faux convo is faux.
Okay, thanks. The post really lost it's momentum when you couldn't see what else was there. This Carini is kinda meh.
Quote from: Multibeast12 on June 03, 2011, 11:53:54 AM
Okay, thanks. The post really lost it's momentum when you couldn't see what else was there. This Carini is kinda meh.
Dark phish at it's best! I bet McGrupp was losing his marbles during this! :mrgreen:
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 03, 2011, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: Multibeast12 on June 03, 2011, 11:53:54 AM
Okay, thanks. The post really lost it's momentum when you couldn't see what else was there. This Carini is kinda meh.
Dark phish at it's best! I bet McGrupp was losing his marbles during this! :mrgreen:
5/27 was some dark ass Carini shit.
Quote from: Multibeast12 on June 03, 2011, 11:53:54 AM
Okay, thanks. The post really lost it's momentum when you couldn't see what else was there. This Carini is kinda meh.
This post lost it's momentum when you said thanks.
Interesting people don't like the Split. I haven't relistened, but at the show I thought it was the best part of that set.
Quote from: danje on June 03, 2011, 12:07:05 PM
Interesting people don't like the Split. I haven't relistened, but at the show I thought it was the best part of that set.
It kind of is.
But it's still not good.
Notice my review didn't mention set one?
THe Piper > Twist > Ghost is just meh. Each song had some really cool stuff going on and seemed like it was gonna evolve into something awesome. but just never did. Especially the Piper. and the Ghost had some really cool stuff but i'm still left wanting more.
Quote from: Multibeast12 on June 03, 2011, 12:25:13 PM
THe Piper > Twist > Ghost is just meh. Each song had some really cool stuff going on and seemed like it was gonna evolve into something awesome. but just never did. Especially the Piper. and the Ghost had some really cool stuff but i'm still left wanting more.
While I don't subscribe to the "longer=better" school of thought, it's kinda hard for a jam to evolve in 6 min
the piper > twist I don't mind so much, but it really was obvious that Mike wanted to continue the ghost. you can hear him playing a bass doodle over trey's opening chords to BDTNL. then BDNTL just drops in and trey sounds all rough and the energy is just gone. I usually do like #line, but it was a bad segue and a bad idea.
didn't I read something a couple years ago about how they were going to write setlists again? My guess is they wrote a setlist for 3/6/09 that was comprised of the first two songs and since then they've been making it up as they go along.
Quote from: runawayjimbo on June 03, 2011, 12:37:30 PM
Quote from: Multibeast12 on June 03, 2011, 12:25:13 PM
THe Piper > Twist > Ghost is just meh. Each song had some really cool stuff going on and seemed like it was gonna evolve into something awesome. but just never did. Especially the Piper. and the Ghost had some really cool stuff but i'm still left wanting more.
While I don't subscribe to the "longer=better" school of thought, it's kinda hard for a jam to evolve in 6 min
I agree, longer does not mean better, it's just when they keep cutting things off and not letting things evolve its just dissapointing.
Quote from: Multibeast12 on June 03, 2011, 12:53:47 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on June 03, 2011, 12:37:30 PM
Quote from: Multibeast12 on June 03, 2011, 12:25:13 PM
THe Piper > Twist > Ghost is just meh. Each song had some really cool stuff going on and seemed like it was gonna evolve into something awesome. but just never did. Especially the Piper. and the Ghost had some really cool stuff but i'm still left wanting more.
While I don't subscribe to the "longer=better" school of thought, it's kinda hard for a jam to evolve in 6 min
I agree, longer does not mean better, it's just when they keep cutting things off and not letting things evolve its just dissapointing.
No doubt
I am actually listening to this for the first time since I heard it over the stream. I'm not sure why. It really does feel more like an obligation at this point.
I re-listened to this SOAM again last night. I totally dig it. Dissonant psychedelia.
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on June 03, 2011, 01:25:51 PM
I re-listened to this SOAM again last night. I totally dig it. Dissonant psychedelia.
duck dood! Liking tunes is no longer supported here! :evil:
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on June 03, 2011, 01:25:51 PM
I re-listened to this SOAM again last night. I totally dig it. Dissonant psychedelia.
Yeah bro, I agree. Haters are going to hate. That SOAM is da teeties! :clap:
faux- you are nuts dude. not a wasted note? concise? have you listened to the show, or are you just being sarcastic...?
Set II is complete shit. Sorry if this comes off as hate, but go back and read my long post in the 5/31 thread if what I'm saying seems too "hatey".
Full review:
We were running a little late to the show. Traffic kind of sucked getting in, but we were driving in last minute...and so were a lot of people apparently. A few downpours pre-show, but nothing too crazy weather-wise. it was H-O-T and humid as fuck. Got into the lot around 7. Drank a couple of beers pretty quick, ran into Danje and shared hellos and a few words. He informed us that the boys started pretty early last night, so we decided to head in and find our seats.
The first thing I noticed walking into the venue was how weird/different the crowd was at this show. I don't think I saw dreadlocks the entire time I was there. Almost no heads at all. Lots of bros and trashy fake-tan chix. And fat dudes. Jersey. :roll: :wink:
We got to our seats and immediately the boys came out. They busted into First Tube which was a big shock to me. I loved that as an opener, but more for the novelty of it... because nobody really seemed super into it. Crowd was pretty mellow at first. Stealing Time = time to grab beers and waters for my crew. Didn't hear the song and didn't really care... The acid hit me hard in the beer line. And the sweating started...
Walking back down to my seats, who do I run into but WTU? He came and joined us and we continued to rage as Camel Walk came on. Great to hear this tune. This was when the crowd started getting into it. It was a solid version and a lot of fun to dance to. Heavy things was next, and I wasn't that disappointed to hear it. I actually really enjoyed trey's solo in this version. Nothing mind-blowing but it was nice to hear trey having fun up there (very obvious that he loves the tune). Good standard bouncy version. Jibboo was standard but I really like its place in the first set. It's a very summertime song to me. Again, nothing spectacular, but a fun version nonetheless. I was sweating my balls off by this point. And off comes my shirt.
My friend Michelle really wanted to hear Wilson (and it was my call for the opener) - so she got her wilson. I thought the placement of this was strange, but whatever. Pretty standard 3.0 wilson. Seven Below was also standard, but had some cool moments. I thought trey and the boys were vibing really well with the crowd. Even though there was nothing super spectacular, I could tell that they were all having fun. The energy started to pick up in 7 below, and flowed right into KDF. Trey also loves this song, that was very clear. He had the rockstar (legs planted and spread out) stance during this one. Totally loving it.
Axillla is where the energy really picked up. The crowd and the band were both rocking out for this. People were psyched, the band was psyched, and its exactly what I wanted to see in a phish show. I knew something good was coming. The energy was right. At this point I had very high hopes for the show...
SOAM was the highlight of the show for me. I've only gone back and listened to it once (yesterday in the car), but it was as good as I remembered it. Certainly not a legendary version, but it was the best split I've heard in 3.0. What I really liked about it was that the crowd was listening, and the band didn't seem to feel like they were rushed. Good patience and thoughtfulness in this jam. Not to mention that at the time, it was psychedelic as shit and kind of melted my brain a little bit. This was the tune my girl really wanted to hear, and she got a pretty damn good version imo. I was sure this was going to be a hawt show at this point. Suzy was great - kinda weird there was just a one-show gap for this, but I was happy to hear it (and page absolutely tore it up). Crowd was loving it. We kept referring to Page as the "nutty professor" - his new glasses look pretty sharp too btw. 8-)
End set. Tripping face. How big were those drops again? :wtu:
Bathroom, beers, water, still no shirt, drunk bros, fake tans, yada yada yada...We go back to our seats.
Lights down again. Tweezer. Another repeat from the tour, but whatever, I love this song. With its spot opening the set, I had a great feeling it was going to get dark and psychedelic and maybe even turn into a nice long jam. One of my favorite non-musical phish concert moments happened about 2 min into the song. The crowd on the lawn started ROARING, and everyone in the pav was all "Wtf mate?". All of a sudden, we all start to feel water hitting our backs. I thought someone was throwing water around, and my gf thought Phish had turned on the sprinklers on the lawn :hereitisyousentimentalbastard We turned around and it was POURING down rain. People were going nuts. Phish turned up the energy a lot and trey was playing awesome harmonics as little guitar-fills during the composed section of the tune. The vibe was just right. Surreal, magical, and exhilarating all at once - just how a phish show is supposed to feel.
Then these douchebags came and kicked us out of our seats (well, maybe we were the douchebags, since we were in their seats, but whatever...) - The rain had stopped and the pav was really squished anyway, so we said fuck it and went up to the lawn. Lots more dancing room up there anyway since everyone had bumrushed the pav in the rain. We watched the 2nd half of the tweezer jam from the lawn - I was kind of disappointed in this version. It started off pretty meh, sort of went somewhere (some nice dissonant 'out there' runs from Trey), but for the most part it was just a normal 3.0 Tweezer.
No quarter was fucking awesome. Very psychedelic to me at the time. Page's vocals were tripping me out. I loved it (even though I couldn't remember what the song was called at the time :roll:)
It was all downhill from NQ on. Carini was cool to hear, but they had played it so recently and everyone was kind of all wtf? Total loss of momentum. Piper was absolute garbage. Some of the worst phish I've ever heard in my life. I like the song twist, but nothing happened in this version. Ghost was a disaster. I kind of wanted to leave at this point, but I was still enjoying myself and thought maybe they'd save the set so we stayed. #line was another tour repeat, which was fine because it was the 5th show of the tour and about time for the repeats to start happening. I was hoping this jam would turn into something cool, but like the rest of the set, it just didn't go anywhere. When they ended the set, I was kind of surprised. It seemed really early, and the boys seemed very frustrated (I could see it in their faces on the big screens by the stage.) Straight up frustrated. Trey just wanted to get out of there - he looked embarassed, honestly.
I fucking hate show of life. Tweezer Reprise was one of the highlights of the post-setbreak show, and it was a standard version. That's saying something.
Overall, I'm not upset I made the trek. Phish shows are always a good time, and I love cheering them on when they're playing well, and even analyzing them when they're not. It's just a fun game/gamble. Some shows have it, some shows don't. This one could have, but they lost a lot of momentum and just couldn't get back on their feet...and kind of gave up. Sucked to see that, but hey, it happens. My crew still had a blast. I also ran into Jez during setbreak, and possibly a couple others, but I don't really remember that well....
Oh, and watching drunk kids bust ass on the muddy lawn is one of the funniest things ever. :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
So that's my review! Pretty excited for Camden... I haven't lost hope yet! I love this band too much to lose hope this early in the tour...
Not being sarcastic at all. I guess we just have a different taste in music.
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 03, 2011, 02:26:33 PM
Not being sarcastic at all. I guess we just have a different taste in music.
I actually find myself agreeing with you a lot in regards to Phish. I don't see how you don't think set II is absolute garbage. Would you mind pointing out time markers (like 5:57 in x or y jam) of stuff you liked? The whole second set is just aimless noodling and fumbling around. It is not good music.
I like all of it. I think to point out specific portions of this awesome segue fest would be a disservice to that set as a work of art as a whole.
Quote from: McGrupp on June 03, 2011, 02:17:37 PM
faux- you are nuts dude. not a wasted note? concise? have you listened to the show, or are you just being sarcastic...?
It's the new faux: just read whatever he says as the exact opposite of what he believes (and yes, I understand the irony of the guy with 100 posts pointing out the "new" faux)
Nice review. Love hearing the thoughts of those in attendance.
Also, was it you who told the Aug/Show of Life story the other day? Cause he called it in LST and I had a nice laugh thinking of that story.
Quote from: runawayjimbo on June 03, 2011, 02:32:15 PM
Quote from: McGrupp on June 03, 2011, 02:17:37 PM
faux- you are nuts dude. not a wasted note? concise? have you listened to the show, or are you just being sarcastic...?
It's the new faux: just read whatever he says as the exact opposite of what he believes (and yes, I understand the irony of the guy with 100 posts pointing out the "new" faux)
Nice review. Love hearing the thoughts of those in attendance.
Also, was it you who told the Aug/Show of Life story the other day? Cause he called it in LST and I had a nice laugh thinking of that story.
Yep. That was me. Aug and show of life, man.... :laugh:
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 03, 2011, 02:30:44 PM
I like all of it. I think to point out specific portions of this awesome segue fest would be a disservice to that set as a work of art as a whole.
You need to get your ears cleaned.
Quote from: McGrupp on June 03, 2011, 02:35:05 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 03, 2011, 02:30:44 PM
I like all of it. I think to point out specific portions of this awesome segue fest would be a disservice to that set as a work of art as a whole.
You need to get your ears cleaned.
Just ear candled them out bro. This set is pure fire! Phish is honed in like a lazer beam. I can't wait to hear what new and inventive techniques the Phish will break out tonight!
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 03, 2011, 02:36:59 PM
Quote from: McGrupp on June 03, 2011, 02:35:05 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on June 03, 2011, 02:30:44 PM
I like all of it. I think to point out specific portions of this awesome segue fest would be a disservice to that set as a work of art as a whole.
You need to get your ears cleaned.
Just ear candled them out bro. This set is pure fire! Phish is honed in like a lazer beam. I can't wait to hear what new and inventive techniques the Phish will break out tonight!
You need to get your sense of humor cleaned. :roll:
Quote from: postjack on June 03, 2011, 12:49:10 PM
the piper > twist I don't mind so much, but it really was obvious that Mike wanted to continue the ghost. you can hear him playing a bass doodle over trey's opening chords to BDTNL. then BDNTL just drops in and trey sounds all rough and the energy is just gone. I usually do like #line, but it was a bad segue and a bad idea.
didn't I read something a couple years ago about how they were going to write setlists again? My guess is they wrote a setlist for 3/6/09 that was comprised of the first two songs and since then they've been making it up as they go along.
Lol.
I think this is probably the best 3.0 Split Open & Melt I've heard, some awesome Jerry like deep intensity is interwoven within this jam!! Total thumbs up, from me...
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on June 03, 2011, 07:52:43 PM
I think this is probably the best 3.0 Split Open & Melt I've heard, some awesome Jerry like deep intensity is interwoven within this jam!! Total thumbs up, from me...
Utica called and said you are absolutely correct.
"blow out candles once again.." = when Trey aborted out of Ghost into #line. Mike was spinning out some super nice lines, powered by Fish however it was not to be.
edit - I really like the No Quarter, they all do a nice job esp. Trey. His playing reminds me of the 26April1994 cover of Sun Ra's Carefree, similar melodicism.
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on June 03, 2011, 07:52:43 PM
I think this is probably the best 3.0 Split Open & Melt I've heard, some awesome Jerry like deep intensity is interwoven within this jam!! Total thumbs up, from me...
Wow, i'll have to revisit it. I only listened/watched the official vid once through, but was pretty sure it was a steaming pile of discombobulated crap, particularly the end. I thought it had a lot of promise with some nice soundscapes conjured in the beginning that could of been explored, but they weren't. Really looked like Trey had no idea what to play at times so he just made faces. He should enter that air guitar competition in Japan, I bet he'd win.
Quote from: Superfreakie on June 04, 2011, 01:47:03 AM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on June 03, 2011, 07:52:43 PM
I think this is probably the best 3.0 Split Open & Melt I've heard, some awesome Jerry like deep intensity is interwoven within this jam!! Total thumbs up, from me...
Wow, i'll have to revisit it. I only listened/watched the official vid once through, but was pretty sure it was a steaming pile of discombobulated crap, particularly the end. I thought it had a lot of promise with some nice soundscapes conjured in the beginning that could of been explored, but they weren't. Really looked like Trey had no idea what to play at times so he just made faces. He should enter that air guitar competition in Japan, I bet he'd win.
oh, it fucking sucked. You're right about that.
as POR, my Split is 11/21/97.
Quote from: sophist on June 04, 2011, 01:57:10 AM
as POR, my Split is 11/21/97.
I've caught some legendary Splits over the years, including that one; thought they might also be skewering my expectations.
Quote from: sophist on June 04, 2011, 01:57:10 AM
as POR, my Split is 11/21/97.
Doesn't hold a candle to 12/31/99.
And that one occurred during the daylight. :)
I've found myself enjoying long stretches of this Tweezer multiple times since it has hit my iPod. There is some playing by numbers in there from Trey, certainly, but they do find a NICE space for a few minutes....
OMG!!! Unfinished Twist!!!!!!
Seriously, this show makes absolutely NO fucking sense.
Tweezer is loose as fuck with lots of playful Trey, but as such its a bit sloppy, but you can tell the band was in a great fucking mood; Trey's pedal-goof at the start of the jam was kinda funny, but I really dug the effect he did during the Ebeneezer evil part. Right away the jam gets deep and heavy, and Trey is letting Page take control with his piano. A lot of his licks make me think of the 7/8/00 Tweezer. But he also takes his time with some thoughtful melodic stuff midway through the jam. He takes his time climbing his way up the fretboard, and Fish compliments the tension really well. Page lays down heavy piano comping, and the turn-arounds start coming quicker and easier, and fucking once it gets going, Trey starts RAGING it!!!! Dissonant tension, and gnarly Trey trilling, and climbing releases!!! TENSION, PAYJORGAN EVIL!!!!! HOLY SHIT this is badass!!!!!! Wow!!! Crashing chord to end it, and a fucking cool sustain Pay Jorgan swelling outro....before something breaks on the organ? maybe? hmmm... but i LOVE the space when Page moves over to the other synth toy and Fish gets quiet and active with the rim-clicking and Mike gets it on with the Disease flange-envelope.
Carini was also host to a great jam, and was into a nice evil piano place when Trey begins Piper, which was fitting but could have been a touch smoother.
However, Piper is where it gets weird. Trey seemed to be lacking ideas, and so he goes over to Mike and presumably says "Twist", only to come back with some seriously fiery licks and helps lead the band into a heavy piano-based groove, and then we get some tasteful Pay Jorgan licks before Mike apparently began counting off Twist.
But TWIST!!!!!!! If faux is being sarcastic, then he's still on the money, because the last 3 minutes of this Twist is AWESOME. The jam is pretty good, standard fare for the most part; it does its job satisfactorily, but then ends up melting into this beautifully deep and dark goo-space, and ends with some truly splendid melodious chord arpeggiation by Trey. This was fucking GOOD, stuff that I want to actually listen to again.
And then the Ghost. Oh, this fucking confused Ghost. Trey forgets how to play the song, in place of Cities teases and some other song I can't remember (the lick that brings in the flubbed final verse). BUT THE JAMMING!!!!!!! Trey actually modulates into a pH-style of playing that reminds me of perhaps the Radio City Ghost, or something else....and Page lays out some tasteful Rhodes licks that Trey actually RESPONDS TO and builds together. And then Trey leads a powerful up-swing in energy, and another turn-around which Page fills in with a wonderful descending piano line, and Fish gets into the trance-house drum mode of the Radio City Ghost, only to have Trey fucking douche it with his fucking douchey fuck-tarding doucheness.
But then this Number Line is really off the hook...... the energy is fucking bonkers, and Trey actually is totally inspired with ideas up the ass, and ends up shredding the ending really well. I mean, the jam starts off pretty standardly, with Trey playing a number of "out" lines for tension, and Page being really active on the piano. Fish is unusually responsive to their playing, and propels the turn-arounds pretty judiciously. Trey is wicked active on the ascent, and builds it up to a big peak pretty quickly and smoothly. And Trey seems to be acutely aware of what he wants to do, and is able to match it, especially with Page's strong accompaniment. His playing is totally awesome in the last few minutes of the jam, tossing off wicked badass pentatonic rock licks with Page pounding on the piano pretty hard.
This Number Line jam is seriously fucking dirty-good, and when Pay Jorgan comes out to play at the end.... wooo-weee!!!! Absolutely monstrous!!!! Page's ad-lib harmonies for the ending chorus are really great too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUM_vnmSgnM&feature=related
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on June 14, 2011, 11:26:55 PM
Trey actually is totally inspired with ideas up the ass
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