Dinner And A Movie - Halloween Speculation

[birdman]

Those were filmed by MTV? How have I never seen that video?!?

can't remember if it was MTV or VH1.....but it was one of those two who had a crew there filming.....its pretty obvious when you watch it and compare to the Radio City footage.....same style shots, crowd pans, and general aesthetics...

pretty sure it was mtv. I swear I remember Kurt loader(?) talking about the gig on MTV News and having several clips from the show.

[mattstick]

Fuck the MTV footage. 1 cam from the SBD is so good lol

[Marmar]

I was just about to say that Matt....lol

[gainesvillegreen]

This 96 set makes me so proud.

[rowjimmy]

My god that was wonderful to see.

[PIE-GUY]

My god that was wonderful to see.

Indeed.

[mopper_smurf]

My god that was wonderful to see.

Indeed.

[Bobafett]

My god that was wonderful to see.

Indeed.

I just watched the remain in light again.   A pivotal performance in phish history and I'm so happy they shared it with us.

[mattstick]

It was cool and all, but showing Exile / 2009 would have really been most excellent.

[Caravan2001]

It was cool and all, but showing Exile / 2009 would have really been most excellent.

Agreed.  It was cool, but I was a little underwhelmed tbh.  I mean, I understand why everyone loves the RIL set, but it's not nearly as high on my list as everyone elses.  I watch the exile set a lot.  The multi-cam fan version is great.  Unfortunately I only have it in a size that makes it watchable on iPad or smaller.  It's killer on the phone lol.

[Hicks]

It was cool and all, but showing Exile / 2009 would have really been most excellent.

It is still is so bizarre to me that they showed the Phish 3D movie in the theaters one time and then never did anything else with it.

Why wouldn't they release it on Blu-Ray with bonus footage from the shows?

Have they forgot it exists or something?

[gainesvillegreen]

The Exile set is good, I agree, but RIL is basically watching the band school themselves in a different way of playing. It is like watching them in a music class.

Everything in 1997 wouldn't have been possible without that RIL set. Early Europe 1997 was important too, for sure, but this is the set which got them prepared to blow all our minds in 1997 - and there isn't a fan on this board who doesn't get turned on by something in 1997. We all have a top 25 song playlist of 1997. This board is too clever not to. And you Island Tour fans, RIL is the grandparent of all that.

Exile has not made a lasting difference on the way they play, it wasn't definitional. Good show, but not instructional.

Please don't misunderstand. I am not a huge Talking Heads fan, but I am a fan when Phish pushes themselves to become better musicians.

[Caravan2001]

The Exile set is good, I agree, but RIL is basically watching the band school themselves in a different way of playing. It is like watching them in a music class.

Everything in 1997 wouldn't have been possible without that RIL set. Early Europe 1997 was important too, for sure, but this is the set which got them prepared to blow all our minds in 1997 - and there isn't a fan on this board who doesn't get turned on by something in 1997. We all have a top 25 song playlist of 1997. This board is too clever not to. And you Island Tour fans, RIL is the grandparent of all that.

Exile has not made a lasting difference on the way they play, it wasn't definitional. Good show, but not instructional.

Please don't misunderstand. I am not a huge Talking Heads fan, but I am a fan when Phish pushes themselves to become better musicians.

I would agree with that...but I would also argue the same for the other two sets they played last night, and personally, I enjoyed watching those two more (but also in large part to the production value).  I think I also have a hard time with most of the cover sets because in general, I would almost always prefer the originals and find myself comparing the Phish versions to the originals, and not in a favorable light, save for VU and Little Feat where I feel that the Phishy aspect added to or complimented the original recordings.  The others not so much imo.  I think we can all agree that Wingsuit is the biggest loser here  :-P

[mattstick]

2010 was pretty bad, the least inspired and interesting of the cover album sets.  I pretty much stopped seeing Phish regularly after that Halloween in Atlantic City.

[Gumbo72203]

The Exile set is good, I agree, but RIL is basically watching the band school themselves in a different way of playing. It is like watching them in a music class.

Everything in 1997 wouldn't have been possible without that RIL set. Early Europe 1997 was important too, for sure, but this is the set which got them prepared to blow all our minds in 1997 - and there isn't a fan on this board who doesn't get turned on by something in 1997. We all have a top 25 song playlist of 1997. This board is too clever not to. And you Island Tour fans, RIL is the grandparent of all that.

Exile has not made a lasting difference on the way they play, it wasn't definitional. Good show, but not instructional.

Please don't misunderstand. I am not a huge Talking Heads fan, but I am a fan when Phish pushes themselves to become better musicians.

This, because it's when Trey learned that they could peak without guitar solos.  Just groove.  Repetition.  Fishman playing a straight beat for 8 minutes, and Mike playing the same thing too. 

Watch Trey during Crosseyed, I mean fuck haha. 


This was the turning point for the band many of us came to love in 97 - 04.  the old style had grown stale, as impressive as it was.  They were getting older, and dissonant 50 minute Tweezer jams just weren't the thing anymore.