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Title: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: runawayjimbo on October 22, 2014, 12:44:12 AM
10-21-2014
Santa Barbara Bowl
Santa Barbara, CA

I: Stash, Possum, Ocelot, NICU, Back on the Train, Limb by Limb, Waiting All Night, Yarmouth Road, When the Circus Comes to Town, Heavy Things, Stealing Time from the Faulty Plan

II:  Chalk Dust Torture ~> Ghost > Birds of a Feather, Wombat, Tweezer > Julius, Piper > Wading in the Velvet Sea, Suzy Greenberg

E:  Boogie On Reggae Woman, Tweezer Reprise

via Phish.net (http://phish.net/setlists/?d=2014-10-21)
Mike teased Paint It Black before Heavy Things.  Suzy contained the alternate lyric "I wish you'd look at me before you count off the song!" from Fishman

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0ejsqbIAAElf1K.jpg)
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Superfreakie on October 22, 2014, 01:30:26 AM

(http://i.imgur.com/54mNbdG.jpg)
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: VDB on October 22, 2014, 09:26:35 AM
So Trey ripcorded Birds and then acknowledged it?
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: rowjimmy on October 22, 2014, 10:08:01 AM
There are some excellent looking FOB sources on bt.etree this morning...
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: VDB on October 22, 2014, 11:36:36 AM
Something about a lot of these Chalk Dust jams makes them, I dunno, not so discernible even though they are certainly not bad.

Also, don't sleep on this 11-minute Tweezer.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: WhatstheUse? on October 22, 2014, 12:54:21 PM
Fishman calling Trey out during Suzy? Trey acknowledging his own ripcord?  Sounds like there may have been some tensions on stage last night...
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: gah on October 22, 2014, 01:11:20 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on October 22, 2014, 12:54:21 PM
Fishman calling Trey out during Suzy? Trey acknowledging his own ripcord?  Sounds like there may have been some tensions on stage last night...

there's always tension on stage....and release....

ahhhh.....


:-P
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Superfreakie on October 22, 2014, 01:38:15 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on October 22, 2014, 12:54:21 PM
Sounds like there may have been some tensions on stage last night...

I'm not sure exactly what I witnessed last night on stage, other than it was weird and awkward.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Augustus on October 22, 2014, 02:41:15 PM
TLHAH
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Hicks on October 22, 2014, 02:49:09 PM
Quote from: Augustus on October 22, 2014, 02:41:15 PM
TLHAH

Your use of acronyms is officially out of hand.   
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: PIE-GUY on October 22, 2014, 02:58:18 PM
Quote from: Hicks on October 22, 2014, 02:49:09 PM
Quote from: Augustus on October 22, 2014, 02:41:15 PM
TLHAH

Your use of acronyms is officially out of hand.

Trey (they?) looked healthy and happy.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Augustus on October 22, 2014, 03:34:28 PM
Precisely!
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: mbw on October 22, 2014, 03:56:22 PM
What did trey say?  don't make me listen.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Superfreakie on October 22, 2014, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: mbw on October 22, 2014, 03:56:22 PM
What did trey say?  don't make me listen.

There were all sorts of call outs that didn't seem so humorous. One mangled BOAF jam that was so abrupt, they stopped, Trey says something about like "anybody else think that was weird", then uncomfortable silence, then Page strikes up a baseball banter to sort of gloss it over, asking the fans what team they were going for and the audience cheers for each team, this deep in the middle of the second set, then Trey pipes up again with "and who wanted that jam to end"? It was fucked. Then the whole Trey playing Julius and ending the Tweezer jam that the rest of the band were having nothing of, a "you guys fucked my BOAF, well, I'm going to fuck your Tweezer". Then they mangle the start to Suzy cause Trey is off in his own land, so in the beginning of the song, right after neurologist, Fishman yells something like, I wish you'd look at me when you'd count the song or something.....it's fucked. Also the same thing happened to start BOAF. Look, they are unpracticed, and it is obvious as fuck. And they're not pulling it off. Period. Seattle had the same problems, although to a lesser degree. To be honest, you should listen to it as I have never heard anything like it come from them.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: mbw on October 22, 2014, 04:41:21 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on October 22, 2014, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: mbw on October 22, 2014, 03:56:22 PM
What did trey say?  don't make me listen.

There were all sorts of call outs that didn't seem so humorous. One mangled BOAF jam that was so abrupt, they stopped, Trey says something about like "anybody else think that was weird", then uncomfortable silence, then Page strikes up a baseball banter to sort of gloss it over, asking the fans what team they were going for and the audience cheers for each team, this deep in the middle of the second set, then Trey pipes up again with "and who wanted that jam to end"? It was fucked. Then the whole Trey playing Julius and ending the Tweezer jam that the rest of the band were having nothing of, a "you guys fucked my BOAF, well, I'm going to fuck your Tweezer". Then they mangle the start to Suzy cause Trey is off in his own land, so in the beginning of the song, right after neurologist, Fishman yells something like, I wish you'd look at me when you'd count the song or something.....it's fucked. Also the same thing happened to start BOAF. Look, they are unpracticed, and it is obvious as fuck. And they're not pulling it off. Period. Seattle had the same problems, although to a lesser degree. To be honest, you should listen to it as I have never heard anything like it come from them.

ooooh, that sounds good.  gonna listen now.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: mehead on October 22, 2014, 04:42:16 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on October 22, 2014, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: mbw on October 22, 2014, 03:56:22 PM
What did trey say?  don't make me listen.

There were all sorts of call outs that didn't seem so humorous. One mangled BOAF jam that was so abrupt, they stopped, Trey says something about like "anybody else think that was weird", then uncomfortable silence, then Page strikes up a baseball banter to sort of gloss it over, asking the fans what team they were going for and the audience cheers for each team, this deep in the middle of the second set, then Trey pipes up again with "and who wanted that jam to end"? It was fucked. Then the whole Trey playing Julius and ending the Tweezer jam that the rest of the band were having nothing of, a "you guys fucked my BOAF, well, I'm going to fuck your Tweezer". Then they mangle the start to Suzy cause Trey is off in his own land, so in the beginning of the song, right after neurologist, Fishman yells something like, I wish you'd look at me when you'd count the song or something.....it's fucked. Also the same thing happened to start BOAF. Look, they are unpracticed, and it is obvious as fuck. And they're not pulling it off. Period. Seattle had the same problems, although to a lesser degree. To be honest, you should listen to it as I have never heard anything like it come from them.

Yeah, it was pretty fucked.  During one of those moments (can't remember which one) Mike looked at Trey and stared him down for a good 5 seconds. He looked pissed.  It may have been during the Tweezer ripcord.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: GBL on October 22, 2014, 04:44:43 PM
Does any of that matter, though?

TLHAH!
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: WhatstheUse? on October 22, 2014, 05:00:18 PM
Just listened to a few low-points of the show.

Heavy Things > Stealing Time = Ouch.  BOAF ending came out of nowhere.... why Trey thought they were gonna end it where he did makes no sense to me... The banter that followed was quite awkward. The Tweezer->Julius was just atrocious...

Maybe some good will come of this. Maybe Trey will finally realize that these ripcords aren't working. Maybe... right?
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Augustus on October 22, 2014, 05:03:34 PM
Tonight has to be better.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Superfreakie on October 22, 2014, 05:07:41 PM
Quote from: Augustus on October 22, 2014, 05:03:34 PM
Tonight has to be better.

It's been downhill since Seattle ye of faith.

In a sick twisted way, I hope this gets uglier.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Augustus on October 22, 2014, 05:10:25 PM
Didn't the last tour start like that?
Wasn't Great Woods really good and then they played a bunch of mediocre gigs?
Listening to the BOAF now.
My wife said Trey sounds horrible.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: gah on October 22, 2014, 05:16:00 PM
I blame it on the fact that they're playing the wrong coast.

I also blame Obama.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: mistercharlie on October 22, 2014, 05:26:39 PM
Quote from: gah on October 22, 2014, 05:16:00 PM
I blame it on the fact that they're playing the wrong coast.

I also blame Obama.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Augustus on October 22, 2014, 05:31:15 PM
The BOAF and Suzy stuff sounds like all in good fun but you can hear the realness in it, too.
Trey ended that BOAF!
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Augustus on October 22, 2014, 05:32:19 PM
Either way, when The Boys destroy Vegas with a 20+ minute Bounce, everyone will just forget about this.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: mattstick on October 22, 2014, 05:33:23 PM
6+ minute Bounce but whatever
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: mopper_smurf on October 22, 2014, 05:41:36 PM
Quote from: Augustus on October 22, 2014, 05:32:19 PM
Either way, when The Boys destroy Vegas with a 20+ minute Bounce, everyone will just forget about this.

:evil:
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: gah on October 22, 2014, 05:55:48 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on October 22, 2014, 05:07:41 PM
Quote from: Augustus on October 22, 2014, 05:03:34 PM
Tonight has to be better.

It's been downhill since Seattle ye of faith.

In a sick twisted way, I hope this gets uglier.

agreed.  :evil:
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: mbw on October 22, 2014, 06:03:03 PM
i wonder who who would win in a fight?
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: nab on October 22, 2014, 06:10:54 PM
Quote from: mbw on October 22, 2014, 06:03:03 PM
i wonder who who would win in a fight?

I'm giving Page the slight edge over Fish.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: mbw on October 22, 2014, 06:12:29 PM
Quote from: nab on October 22, 2014, 06:10:54 PM
Quote from: mbw on October 22, 2014, 06:03:03 PM
i wonder who who would win in a fight?

I'm giving Page the slight edge over Fish.

Sounds about right.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: DoW on October 22, 2014, 06:29:59 PM
Quote from: gah on October 22, 2014, 05:55:48 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on October 22, 2014, 05:07:41 PM
Quote from: Augustus on October 22, 2014, 05:03:34 PM
Tonight has to be better.

It's been downhill since Seattle ye of faith.

In a sick twisted way, I hope this gets uglier.

agreed.  :evil:
me too.  I don't feel like making room on my hard drive for new shows.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: PIE-GUY on October 22, 2014, 06:46:13 PM
All I know is come Vegas PGLHAH is all people will remember.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: anthrax on October 22, 2014, 07:01:00 PM
Quote from: mehead on October 22, 2014, 04:42:16 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on October 22, 2014, 04:24:31 PM
Quote from: mbw on October 22, 2014, 03:56:22 PM
What did trey say?  don't make me listen.

There were all sorts of call outs that didn't seem so humorous. One mangled BOAF jam that was so abrupt, they stopped, Trey says something about like "anybody else think that was weird", then uncomfortable silence, then Page strikes up a baseball banter to sort of gloss it over, asking the fans what team they were going for and the audience cheers for each team, this deep in the middle of the second set, then Trey pipes up again with "and who wanted that jam to end"? It was fucked. Then the whole Trey playing Julius and ending the Tweezer jam that the rest of the band were having nothing of, a "you guys fucked my BOAF, well, I'm going to fuck your Tweezer". Then they mangle the start to Suzy cause Trey is off in his own land, so in the beginning of the song, right after neurologist, Fishman yells something like, I wish you'd look at me when you'd count the song or something.....it's fucked. Also the same thing happened to start BOAF. Look, they are unpracticed, and it is obvious as fuck. And they're not pulling it off. Period. Seattle had the same problems, although to a lesser degree. To be honest, you should listen to it as I have never heard anything like it come from them.

Yeah, it was pretty fucked.  During one of those moments (can't remember which one) Mike looked at Trey and stared him down for a good 5 seconds. He looked pissed.  It may have been during the Tweezer ripcord.

where's my webrip?  i wanna see this!
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: birdman on October 22, 2014, 07:12:41 PM
Quote from: PGLHAH on October 22, 2014, 06:46:13 PM
All I know is come Vegas PGLHAH is all people will remember.
PG is firing on all cylinders!!
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Augustus on October 22, 2014, 07:16:34 PM
Quote from: birdman on October 22, 2014, 07:12:41 PM
Quote from: PGLHAH on October 22, 2014, 06:46:13 PM
All I know is come Vegas PGLHAH is all people will remember.
PG is firing on all cylinders!!

Hoping y'all keep up the momentum until Vegas
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: cactusfan on October 23, 2014, 01:28:14 AM
on the plus side, i was there, and had a grand time! good seats, and good things in my brain, a beautiful venue, and was there a phish show going on? there was! some nice moments within jams to keep me amused, and the end of BOAF to crack me up. i guess i didn't get the whole 'uncomfortable' part. it seemed pretty comical. aside from the unfortunate part where the nice jam was killed dead.

the end of Tweezer seemed less comical. why won't you rock, Trey?

lots of tickets before the show. people couldn't give them away.

looking forward to Bill Graham. i heard a rumor that those shows are going to be great.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: WhatstheUse? on October 23, 2014, 03:52:41 AM
Venue looked incredible! What was the capicty there? Was it full?

Pictures looked so intimate!
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: gah on October 23, 2014, 10:06:43 AM
Quote from: cactusfan on October 23, 2014, 01:28:14 AM
on the plus side, i was there, and had a grand time! good seats, and good things in my brain, a beautiful venue, and was there a phish show going on? there was! some nice moments within jams to keep me amused, and the end of BOAF to crack me up. i guess i didn't get the whole 'uncomfortable' part. it seemed pretty comical. aside from the unfortunate part where the nice jam was killed dead.

the end of Tweezer seemed less comical. why won't you rock, Trey?

lots of tickets before the show. people couldn't give them away.

looking forward to Bill Graham. i heard a rumor that those shows are going to be great.

we have a separate thread for rumors.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: VDB on October 23, 2014, 10:42:28 AM
Quote from: cactusfan on October 23, 2014, 01:28:14 AM
i guess i didn't get the whole 'uncomfortable' part. it seemed pretty comical.

That's the feeling I got from the recording anyway.

I'm sure we over analyze these things way more than the band, picking them apart and contextualizing them as impending signs of the apocalypse. From the band, all you hear on stage is how they had "so much fun tonight" and in interviews how this is their favorite time ever. Unless they're just lying about all that, I'll assume this stuff doesn't bother them as much as it bothers us. For whatever that's worth.
Title: Re: 10/21 - Santa Barbara Bowl - Santa Barbara, CA - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: rowjimmy on October 23, 2014, 10:50:46 AM
Weird bits were a little weird musically.
I can't say what happened though.

Here's a part I enjoyed which was released just now:
http://youtu.be/XgU_k_12tKU