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Title: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 05, 2011, 01:36:06 AM
09-04-2011
Dick's Sporting Goods Park
Commerce City, CO

Soundcheck:  50 Ways to Lose Your Lover Jam, The Way It Goes (multiple times)

Set 1:  Maze, Back on the Train, Rift, Bathtub Gin, The Way It Goes*, Halfway to the Moon, Gumbo, Halley's Comet ~> Tube^, Timber (Jerry), Roses Are Free > Chalk Dust Torture

Set 2:  Rock & Roll ~> Come Together# > Twist@ -> Piper > Harry Hood > Roggae > Ghost -> Guy Forget& -> Ghost, Walls of the Cave

Encore:  Backwards Down the Number Line


* Gillian Welch cover, first time played
^ Charlie Chan tease from Trey
# Last time played 12-08-1995 (Lennon's anniversary; 308 shows)
@ with Low Rider jam
& Last time played 10-01-2000 (196 shows)
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Casey Lenahan on September 05, 2011, 01:38:36 AM
didnt catch 1st set 2nd was good encore sucked good night.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Tomapella on September 05, 2011, 01:39:43 AM
Sounded great to me from what I could hear!  My speakers got possessed by Guy Forget somewhere in there and had intermittent horrible distortion, but I'm looking forward to hearing it again when I can make out what they're playing.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: runawayjimbo on September 05, 2011, 01:40:44 AM
Quote from: tehdead on September 05, 2011, 01:38:36 AM
didnt catch 1st set 2nd was good encore sucked good night.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard

With all the excitement of Guy Forget, I almost didn't realize that we still only got 7 mins of Ghost.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: GBL on September 05, 2011, 02:32:58 AM
Guess which night is my favorite? Holy balls..

And no, none of the above is NOT an option!

:wtu:
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: guyforget on September 05, 2011, 03:14:32 AM
yep.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Caravan2001 on September 05, 2011, 03:14:51 AM
That show was so on time, it was early.....
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Caravan2001 on September 05, 2011, 03:16:25 AM
Quote from: guyforget on September 05, 2011, 03:14:32 AM
yep.

Dude....I know you must have been blowing it up during Guy Forget....shit was bomb....
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: guyforget on September 05, 2011, 03:27:39 AM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 05, 2011, 03:16:25 AM
Quote from: guyforget on September 05, 2011, 03:14:32 AM
yep.

Dude....I know you must have been blowing it up during Guy Forget....shit was bomb....


5th row, dfc

was raging hard all night, didnt even drink today in preparation, tons of energy.

pretty jazzed about the weekend as a whole but we def picked the right night to be up front as far as energy goes, the place was shaking, people were out of their heads in every direction. 

had several friends in the area, got a few high-5's and phone was buzzing like a motherfucker, had to put it on airplane mode, lol. 
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: guyforget on September 05, 2011, 03:28:29 AM
actually went really bonkers when trey said i was the ghost  :wink:
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Caravan2001 on September 05, 2011, 03:48:24 AM
 :rawk:  shit was on time......
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: rowjimmy on September 05, 2011, 07:50:33 AM
Quote from: guyforget on September 05, 2011, 03:28:29 AM
actually went really bonkers when trey said i was the ghost  :wink:

lol

Pretty cool.

Looking forward to hearing this bizness.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Buffalo Budd on September 05, 2011, 09:55:19 AM
Wow, Guy Forget, really?
Come Together > Twist was all I heard but the Twist jam in particular sounded pretty good from what I heard.

Quote from: rowjimmy on September 05, 2011, 07:50:33 AM

Looking forward to hearing this bizness.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: zackonthetrain on September 05, 2011, 11:30:02 AM
Quote from: guyforget on September 05, 2011, 03:28:29 AM
actually went really bonkers when trey said i was the ghost  :wink:

straight awesome
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: whatapiper on September 05, 2011, 11:33:30 AM
So all the Ghost hate mail should be sent to Allen's mailbox and not the hotline?
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: aphineday on September 05, 2011, 11:57:32 AM
Quote from: whatapiper on September 05, 2011, 11:33:30 AM
So all the Ghost hate mail should be sent to Allen's mailbox and not the hotline?
Nah, send it to the hotline too. I need another crazy Mike rant about type 17 jamming.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: VDB on September 05, 2011, 12:06:08 PM
Quote from: aphineday on September 05, 2011, 11:57:32 AM
Quote from: whatapiper on September 05, 2011, 11:33:30 AM
So all the Ghost hate mail should be sent to Allen's mailbox and not the hotline?
Nah, send it to the hotline too. I need another crazy Mike rant about type 17 jamming.

The first rule of Type 17 Jamming is you don't talk about Type 17 Jamming.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: WhatstheUse? on September 05, 2011, 02:17:45 PM
Thought this was a great show.  Maze opener ruled, as did the Gin.

Show highlight for me was DEFINITELY the Guy Forget! Never though I would have seen that!

Also, do people think Come Together was planned? I kind of think it was spontaneous, it didn't seem rehearsed....
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: VA $l!m on September 05, 2011, 02:24:22 PM
Quote from: guyforget on September 05, 2011, 03:27:39 AM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 05, 2011, 03:16:25 AM
Quote from: guyforget on September 05, 2011, 03:14:32 AM
yep.

Dude....I know you must have been blowing it up during Guy Forget....shit was bomb....


5th row, dfc

was raging hard all night, didnt even drink today in preparation, tons of energy.

pretty jazzed about the weekend as a whole but we def picked the right night to be up front as far as energy goes, the place was shaking, people were out of their heads in every direction. 

had several friends in the area, got a few high-5's and phone was buzzing like a motherfucker, had to put it on airplane mode, lol.

congrats bud!
killer bust out.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: gainesvillegreen on September 05, 2011, 02:58:25 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 05, 2011, 02:17:45 PM
Thought this was a great show.  Maze opener ruled, as did the Gin.

Show highlight for me was DEFINITELY the Guy Forget! Never though I would have seen that!

Also, do people think Come Together was planned? I kind of think it was spontaneous, it didn't seem rehearsed....

No, I don't think it was planned. Too loose.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: guyforget on September 05, 2011, 06:01:16 PM
Quote from: gainesvillegreen on September 05, 2011, 02:58:25 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 05, 2011, 02:17:45 PM
Thought this was a great show.  Maze opener ruled, as did the Gin.

Show highlight for me was DEFINITELY the Guy Forget! Never though I would have seen that!

Also, do people think Come Together was planned? I kind of think it was spontaneous, it didn't seem rehearsed....

No, I don't think it was planned. Too loose.

yeah, we were so close, trey def didnt know the words at all.  he was laughing about it, kinda looking around, the crowd up front was filling in for him.  at one point he could have started playing back into the jam or strummed the chorus for the people up front to sing along, and i was cringing thinking that 3.0 trey would surely do the later but he dropped back into the jam and everyone quickly shutup.  awesome. 

Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Caravan2001 on September 06, 2011, 12:43:48 AM
Quote from: tehdead on September 05, 2011, 01:38:36 AM
didnt catch 1st set 2nd was good encore sucked good night.

Did you listen to the encore with your ears?  Shit is banging.....great version IMO....
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: danje on September 06, 2011, 02:04:05 AM
Twist through the end was on.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: VDB on September 06, 2011, 10:34:18 PM
Ghost -> Guy Forget rages. Trey is on fire.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: emay on September 06, 2011, 10:36:51 PM
This ghost, gin, maze, guy forget, piper > hood are awesome!
Glad I got to get pretty close for this show. might be the last one I see in a while  :cry:
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Undermind on September 07, 2011, 07:51:37 AM
seems like the overall hate has dissipated
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: DoW on September 07, 2011, 08:02:50 AM
Quote from: Undermind on September 07, 2011, 07:51:37 AM
seems like the overall hate has dissipated
I just haven't listened to the shows yet  :wink:

Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: VDB on September 07, 2011, 09:00:44 AM
Quote from: Undermind on September 07, 2011, 07:51:37 AM
seems like the overall hate has dissipated

Did not like the ~> into Twist.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: emay on September 07, 2011, 09:34:01 AM
Quote from: V00D00BR3W on September 07, 2011, 09:00:44 AM
Quote from: Undermind on September 07, 2011, 07:51:37 AM
seems like the overall hate has dissipated

Did not like the ~> into Twist.

Or the encore
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: sophist on September 07, 2011, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: bvaz on September 07, 2011, 08:02:50 AM
Quote from: Undermind on September 07, 2011, 07:51:37 AM
seems like the overall hate has dissipated
I just haven't listened to the shows yet  :wink:

Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Gumbo72203 on September 07, 2011, 10:13:08 AM
I certainly hope Guy Forget is not an omen of things to end again........

kind of interesting it only gets played in ONE very small sector of the country.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: guyforget on September 07, 2011, 01:17:36 PM
Quote from: sophist on September 07, 2011, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: bvaz on September 07, 2011, 08:02:50 AM
Quote from: Undermind on September 07, 2011, 07:51:37 AM
seems like the overall hate has dissipated
I just haven't listened to the shows yet  :wink:






im sure i can find something to nitpick when i go back and listen again, but the bottom line is that i havent yet left 3 consecutive 3.0 shows w/ so little to complain about.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Hicks on September 07, 2011, 01:35:45 PM
Come Together was fairly awful.

Better?    :-D
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: guyforget on September 07, 2011, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: Hicks on September 07, 2011, 01:35:45 PM
Come Together was fairly awful.

Better?    :-D



trey really seemed torn....  the crowd was singing; almost egging him on, but he knew he didnt know the song. 
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Hicks on September 07, 2011, 02:19:05 PM
Quote from: guyforget on September 07, 2011, 01:55:28 PM
Quote from: Hicks on September 07, 2011, 01:35:45 PM
Come Together was fairly awful.

Better?    :-D



trey really seemed torn....  the crowd was singing; almost egging him on, but he knew he didnt know the song.

I'm sure it was fun in person, but on tape it's fairly embarrassing.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: guyforget on September 07, 2011, 02:24:28 PM
fun, sure, but also the low point of the show.  thankfully he finished it up and started twist instead of following the 3.0 formula of having a 3rd song slowdown in the 2nd set. 
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: G. Augusto on September 07, 2011, 06:38:37 PM
Serious yikes on that Come Together.
Nothing from the run was AWESOME.
Choo.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Caravan2001 on September 07, 2011, 07:46:01 PM
Well, I don;t think any of us would have been able to play Come Together at all without having ever practiced it...At least they went with it when the riff popped up spontaneously and took a chance...that said, it is pretty cringe worthy but at least they took the risk and at least they did not beat it into the ground.....
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: G. Augusto on September 07, 2011, 07:48:42 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 07, 2011, 07:46:01 PM
Well, I don;t think any of us would have been able to play Come Together at all without having ever practiced it...At least they went with it when the riff popped up spontaneously and took a chance...that said, it is pretty cringe worthy but at least they took the risk and at least they did not beat it into the ground.....

I thought they could have stopped it after the chord drop in the first verse and it wouldn't have been as bad.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Hicks on September 07, 2011, 07:53:48 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 07, 2011, 07:46:01 PM
Well, I don;t think any of us would have been able to play Come Together at all without having ever practiced it...At least they went with it when the riff popped up spontaneously and took a chance...that said, it is pretty cringe worthy but at least they took the risk and at least they did not beat it into the ground.....

Ha, well nobody is paying me five figures to walk out on stage every night either. . . 
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: G. Augusto on September 07, 2011, 07:56:00 PM
Quote from: Hicks on September 07, 2011, 07:53:48 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 07, 2011, 07:46:01 PM
Well, I don;t think any of us would have been able to play Come Together at all without having ever practiced it...At least they went with it when the riff popped up spontaneously and took a chance...that said, it is pretty cringe worthy but at least they took the risk and at least they did not beat it into the ground.....

Ha, well nobody is paying me five figures to walk out on stage every night either. . .

Harsh, bro.
Cut the band some slack...they're only professionals.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: emay on September 07, 2011, 08:23:51 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on September 07, 2011, 07:56:00 PM
Quote from: Hicks on September 07, 2011, 07:53:48 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 07, 2011, 07:46:01 PM
Well, I don;t think any of us would have been able to play Come Together at all without having ever practiced it...At least they went with it when the riff popped up spontaneously and took a chance...that said, it is pretty cringe worthy but at least they took the risk and at least they did not beat it into the ground.....

Ha, well nobody is paying me five figures to walk out on stage every night either. . .

Harsh, bro.
Cut the band some slack...they're only professionals.

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: WhatstheUse? on September 07, 2011, 08:47:38 PM
I'm with Caravan.  I love seeing Phish take risks and this was no different -- spontaneity like that is why I see phish
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: G. Augusto on September 07, 2011, 08:48:53 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 07, 2011, 08:47:38 PM
I'm with Caravan.  I love seeing Phish take risks and this was no different -- spontaneity like that is why I see phish

I love seeing Phish take risks, too.
And succeeding.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Superfreakie on September 07, 2011, 08:54:59 PM
Quote from: Undermind on September 07, 2011, 07:51:37 AM
seems like the overall hate has dissipated

nah, Europe 72'd
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: DoW on September 07, 2011, 09:00:11 PM
these threads are more entertaining than the shows.

the shows lately are good.  not great. 

Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: AfterMidnight on September 07, 2011, 10:02:08 PM
Quote from: bvaz on September 07, 2011, 09:00:11 PM
these threads are more entertaining than the shows.

the shows lately are good.  not great.

by lately i hope you don't mean chicago. those shows a pretty sick if you ask me. just my .2 cents.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: susep on September 07, 2011, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: Undermind on September 07, 2011, 07:51:37 AM
seems like the overall hate has dissipated

haven't had a chance to listen. :evil:


edit - intrigued by the S show set II.  S is one of my favorite letters in their music. 
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: gainesvillegreen on September 07, 2011, 10:54:24 PM
Quote from: susep on September 07, 2011, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: Undermind on September 07, 2011, 07:51:37 AM
seems like the overall hate has dissipated

haven't had a chance to listen. :evil:


edit - intrigued by the S show set II.  S is one of my favorite letters in their music.

Not the greatest Sand ever played on 9/2, but it holds.

This show has a great second set. Like the Hood/Roggae/Ghost section, and Rock and Roll has its moments.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: sumodie on September 08, 2011, 12:11:15 AM
Amazing run of shows -best 3 night run in 3.0 (beating out SBIX imho). Dick's is a sweet venue -sound was fantastic, vibe off the hook, onsite camping also great. Song flow was excellent, not to mention the number of stellar jams. And the last night just kept peaking and peaking.

Couldn't have asked for a better way to close out summer phish 2011 (except for maybe adding a show in VT! :-)

Here's hoping Dick's, Bethel Woods, and Watkins Glen all get 3 nighters next year. All excellent additions to the touring circuit.







Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Caravan2001 on September 08, 2011, 12:26:42 AM
Quote from: sumodie on September 08, 2011, 12:11:15 AM
Amazing run of shows -best 3 night run in 3.0 (beating out SBIX imho). Dick's is a sweet venue -sound was fantastic, vibe off the hook, onsite camping also great. Song flow was excellent, not to mention the number of stellar jams. And the last night just kept peaking and peaking.

Couldn't have asked for a better way to close out summer phish 2011 (except for maybe adding a show in VT! :-)

Here's hoping Dick's, Bethel Woods, and Watkins Glen all get 3 nighters next year. All excellent additions to the touring circuit.

I agree 100%...
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: guyforget on September 08, 2011, 01:42:11 AM
Quote from: G. Augusto on September 07, 2011, 07:48:42 PM
Quote from: Caravan2001 on September 07, 2011, 07:46:01 PM
Well, I don;t think any of us would have been able to play Come Together at all without having ever practiced it...At least they went with it when the riff popped up spontaneously and took a chance...that said, it is pretty cringe worthy but at least they took the risk and at least they did not beat it into the ground.....

I thought they could have stopped it after the chord drop in the first verse and it wouldn't have been as bad.



he could've, and i thought he was going to because he clearly knew that he didnt know the words or changes. but the crowd up front was yelling the lyrics and egging him on and his grin just got huge from that...  it was awesome, but def the low point of the set.  but for a low point, its awesome.  its not like he dropped into joy for the 3rd song or busted out a mid-set summer of '89.  he tried a half-court shot and ended up w/ more of a field goal, but overall it was net positive, imho and the energy he was feeling from that moment was definitely felt throughout the set. 

i've hated as much as any on this forum, but this was definitely the best run ive seen in this era.  i felt very nostalgic at some points this weekend, and i mean that as a very good thing. 



Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: guyforget on September 08, 2011, 03:07:02 AM
finally time to revisit some highlights

playlist:

gin, twist, piper, hood, roggae, ghost
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: guyforget on September 08, 2011, 03:20:43 AM
just into piper...

fuck it though, i'm on the wagon for this run

shit's legit

i remember when we were so critical of unfocused 2.0 trey, sloppy and noodly and pointless.  trey is neither (uncommonly) sloppy nor noodly yet.  maybe he's not exactly patient, but theres definitely no simple wanking 2.0 style. 


Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: guyforget on September 08, 2011, 03:24:23 AM
remember when we were all young... coming up in the phish scene, it was always explained to us, and by us to others on their way up: its all about the live shows.


now we all want them to be perfect from our couches while we declare our own hiati and such from them, such the lulz



i think my high horse broke a leg, facepalm    :frustrated:   :frustrated:


Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: guyforget on September 08, 2011, 03:29:19 AM
theremin > (whale x plinko)



fucking w/ the hood intro = plz more
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Superfreakie on September 08, 2011, 03:42:03 AM
Quote from: guyforget on September 08, 2011, 03:24:23 AM
i think my high horse broke a leg, facepalm    :frustrated:   :frustrated:

I'm nearly off the hater train. Just need a little more consistency in the jamming department but without question they are getting there.

Remember in 2009 when Fish couldn't come out of a drum fill without falling off the beat.
Remember in 2009 when Trey couldn't play any lick other than an ascending rock peak.
Remember when the two of them couldn't peak a jam simultaneously.
Remember when Trey would drop weak ballads just as the second set was taking off.
Remember the whale. 
Remember when this band thought their fan base would eat up Summer 89, Dr. Gabel, and TTE.
Remember the completely pre-programmed setlists. The Character Zeros.....

You think they got the memo. I do. Now it's only a matter of time.........before type 17 jamming commences.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: guyforget on September 08, 2011, 03:46:54 AM
for a second i thought: "the hood landing wasnt all that smooth, especially lyrically."

then i remembered all the times i BITCHED about unfinished hoods
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: qop24 on September 08, 2011, 09:20:55 AM
what the hell has happened around here, I thought the end of the world was going to be next year?!?
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Multibeast12 on September 08, 2011, 10:32:50 AM
This run seems to be turning haters into not so much hate, maybe i'll give it a listen. But i feel as though the VT show is gonna have some very very safe playing.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Caravan2001 on September 08, 2011, 10:55:48 AM
Quote from: guyforget on September 08, 2011, 03:24:23 AM
remember when we were all young... coming up in the phish scene, it was always explained to us, and by us to others on their way up: its all about the live shows.


now we all want them to be perfect from our couches while we declare our own hiati and such from them, such the lulz



i think my high horse broke a leg, facepalm    :frustrated:   :frustrated:

It's typical.....I told my wife that people were actually hating on these shows and she said "Is anybody that actually went to the shows hating on them?"

The answer to that is a resounding no.....
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Hicks on September 08, 2011, 11:05:00 AM
Is anyone really hating on these shows though?

I just pointed out that one song from this show was a trainwreck, that's all.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Caravan2001 on September 08, 2011, 11:13:51 AM
Quote from: Hicks on September 08, 2011, 11:05:00 AM
Is anyone really hating on these shows though?

I just pointed out that one song from this show was a trainwreck, that's all.

you're the main offender bro.....

j/k

No, only a couple of people are really hating and they are probably so stuck in hate mode that they just don't know another way. For the most part, people are loving the stand.   All three of the shows are solid with some great stuff.  I think each show has something to offer.  For me, first show had the Sparks, Scents, Slave and Sabotage. Sand and Seven Below are sick too. Plus it was the tribute show.  Next night had a MONSTER Tweezer and I loved the DWD too. 3rd night second set was all gravy, even with a sketchy Come Together....good stuff.  I'd be surprised if Vermont was of the same caliber but I hope so!
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Caravan2001 on September 08, 2011, 11:15:19 AM
Quote from: Superfreakie on September 08, 2011, 03:42:03 AM
Quote from: guyforget on September 08, 2011, 03:24:23 AM
i think my high horse broke a leg, facepalm    :frustrated:   :frustrated:

I'm nearly off the hater train. Just need a little more consistency in the jamming department but without question they are getting there.

Remember in 2009 when Fish couldn't come out of a drum fill without falling off the beat.
Remember in 2009 when Trey couldn't play any lick other than an ascending rock peak.
Remember when the two of them couldn't peak a jam simultaneously.
Remember when Trey would drop weak ballads just as the second set was taking off.
Remember the whale. 
Remember when this band thought their fan base would eat up Summer 89, Dr. Gabel, and TTE.
Remember the completely pre-programmed setlists. The Character Zeros.....

You think they got the memo. I do. Now it's only a matter of time.........before type 17 jamming commences.


All good points.....and true
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: mattstick on September 08, 2011, 11:28:46 AM

I certainly don't hate these shows - but I stand by the statement/idea that there is only about 30-45 minutes of interesting Phish a night in 2010/2011.  Given that most shows have between 2.5 and 3 hours of music, that percentage of what you're going to listen to 5 years from now isn't very high.

Furthermore, and maybe I'm just more concerned about how far dollars go these days, but the tickets and travel are more expensive than ever - add that all up and it's just not the same value as I was used to receiving from Phish.

Even with these Colorado webcasts, I was home on Saturday and Sunday nights, but I chose to watch MLB because I knew I'd be bored after the first 3 or 4 generic songs, excited to watch about 30 minutes in set II and bored by the time the encore rolled around again.

I admit that much of what I've written is not Phish's fault, but I do think they made a decision to jam less, play certain songs more, and be fine with 3 minute Tube's and 5 minute Timber Ho's.  It's just not really the Phish I loved when I started seeing shows and it's less palatable to me than what they were doing in 03/04 (August not included).

Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: emay on September 08, 2011, 12:33:08 PM
Quote from: mattstick on September 08, 2011, 11:28:46 AM

I certainly don't hate these shows - but I stand by the statement/idea that there is only about 30-45 minutes of interesting Phish a night in 2010/2011.  Given that most shows have between 2.5 and 3 hours of music, that percentage of what you're going to listen to 5 years from now isn't very high.

Furthermore, and maybe I'm just more concerned about how far dollars go these days, but the tickets and travel are more expensive than ever - add that all up and it's just not the same value as I was used to receiving from Phish.

Even with these Colorado webcasts, I was home on Saturday and Sunday nights, but I chose to watch MLB because I knew I'd be bored after the first 3 or 4 generic songs, excited to watch about 30 minutes in set II and bored by the time the encore rolled around again.

I admit that much of what I've written is not Phish's fault, but I do think they made a decision to jam less, play certain songs more, and be fine with 3 minute Tube's and 5 minute Timber Ho's.  It's just not really the Phish I loved when I started seeing shows and it's less palatable to me than what they were doing in 03/04 (August not included).

Excellent opinion. I have to agree that overall compared to 1.0&2.0 the costs of the shows/travel is hardly worth it for 3.0. But I still find myself spending the 150 bucks for travel and the 100 bucks for tickets to shows that I hope will be amazing/life changing. But they always turn out to be the normal 3.0 show. I love phish, but there has to be a point where you realize what they are doing is not what you like. I still listen to 1.0 shows and think to myself like wow I really cant wait for chicago and co run!!!!!! Cant wait to groove and dance and rage those shows. But when I relisten to the 3.0 shows or even standing there at the show, I think wow this is not all what I was hyped about. I never got to be at any 1.0 shows so I am just trying to get in as much  :phish: in my life as I can. The music is still there though, even if they arent playing it/mixing it up as much as I would like.

The decisions they have made throughout 3.0 have also been a let down. Thank god they started throwing in at least one or two jams 20+ min, and at least 4-5 that are 13 + min jams a tour. If they still played like they did in 2009 I would have stopped going to  :phish: shows. They got better and hopefully contiune to get better. Its not gonna be a peak like there was in 1.0 but all I can do is hope right?
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Lifeboy on September 08, 2011, 02:01:10 PM
I haven't had much time to go back and give these shows a relisten, but this night my favorite. It seemed to flow so much more smoothly than Saturday. I plan on giving these shows another listen, as well as a bit more in-depth review this evening once I get to my computer.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Gumbo72203 on September 11, 2011, 06:34:50 PM
dude, listen to Page's piano in this Ghost.  I don't get how this isn't incredible.  Pay Jorgan attack!!!!!  With sidewinder piano!


and it seems like Fish is the one who instigated Guy Forget over the raging Ghost peak.


if you don't think this is sick, you need to go fuck your girlfriend for a couple hours to get your head out of your ass:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8G79M4V9v4&feature=related
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: zimbra on September 11, 2011, 11:58:41 PM
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on September 11, 2011, 06:34:50 PM
if you don't think this is sick, you need to go fuck your girlfriend for a couple hours to get your head out of your ass:

:clap:
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Gumbo72203 on September 12, 2011, 02:02:08 AM
Best 3.0 Gin.  Shut up, go stick a razor in your ass, down a bottle of Franks Red Hot, and then duck tape yourself to the toilet in the mens room at your local strip club if you think otherwise.  Because you are sub-human, and suck a realizing greatness.  The Coventry Glide gets a boner for this Gin.  It eats boner juice, and shits out fun.  And we love fun. 

And this Gin is awesome. 


Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Lifeboy on September 12, 2011, 03:50:50 AM
I agree that it's the best Gin of 3.0


The Ghost was fun and it was a very special treat to hear Guy Forget, but it probably won't get much playback time in my house. Nothing noteworthy, just fun to see live.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: WhatstheUse? on September 12, 2011, 12:34:57 PM
Quote from: Lifeboy on September 12, 2011, 03:50:50 AM
I agree that it's the best Gin of 3.0

Gots to be.  Only other contenders I can think of would be Gorge 09 or Bethel.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: zimbra on September 12, 2011, 03:55:48 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on September 12, 2011, 12:34:57 PM
Quote from: Lifeboy on September 12, 2011, 03:50:50 AM
I agree that it's the best Gin of 3.0

Gots to be.  Only other contenders I can think of would be Gorge 09 or Bethel.

I Zimbra will personally allow it to be a tie between Gorge '09 and CO '11 for best gin.










*I was at both*
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Lifeboy on September 12, 2011, 04:26:23 PM
The Gorge '09 version is good, but this one blows it out of the water imo. I'll have to go back and give it another listen, but I remember just the last few minutes of the Gorge version being good.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: zimbra on September 12, 2011, 06:35:53 PM
Quote from: Lifeboy on September 12, 2011, 04:26:23 PM
The Gorge '09 version is good, but this one blows it out of the water imo. I'll have to go back and give it another listen, but I remember just the last few minutes of the Gorge version being good.

Watch that mouth of yours, I'll break your hard drive.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: Lifeboy on September 12, 2011, 06:50:41 PM
Quote from: zimbra on September 12, 2011, 06:35:53 PM
Quote from: Lifeboy on September 12, 2011, 04:26:23 PM
The Gorge '09 version is good, but this one blows it out of the water imo. I'll have to go back and give it another listen, but I remember just the last few minutes of the Gorge version being good.

Watch that mouth of yours, I'll break your hard drive.

That would be two in one week
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: VA $l!m on September 13, 2011, 12:32:58 PM
thanks for embeding that video gumbo.
i think that was the firzt 2011 phish i've listened to.
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: UncleEbinezer on September 21, 2011, 02:32:28 PM
I love how much fun they are having during Guy Forget!   :rockout:
Title: Re: 09/04 - Dick's Sporting Goods Park - Commerce City, CO - Post-Show Discussion
Post by: rowjimmy on August 28, 2012, 09:10:02 AM
QuoteOn September 4, 2011, Phish played a show in Commerce City, CO at Dick's Sporting Goods Park. The final show of their summer tour was immediately lauded by fans for its outstanding merits. It was simply, a great show. But a very tiny event on that evening lead to a yearlong battle where friendships were tested as two sides of a heated argument began. Did Phish tease The Modern Lovers "Roadrunner" during a jam in "Piper?"
more: http://blog.phish.net/1345854196/goodbye-roadrunner-tease

Sounds like Roadrunner to me.