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Re: Another new Archival Release - 8/1/98 Alpine Valley
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2020, 01:04:40 AM »
I guess they donít wanna pay Atschiller to mix them if the two track sounds good enough. 
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Re: Another new Archival Release - 8/1/98 Alpine Valley
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2020, 05:17:39 AM »
Yeah I wish this was a multitrack, it sounds fine but itís nowhere near the quality of the Grand Rapids 98 from last year.

Everything after '94 is multitrack but they choose to not use them, which is confounding cause every multitrack release sounds much better. Is it because they plan to eventually return to the gold mine and release tour box sets like the GD, with these billed as superior quality to what was previously released. They really suck at marketing their archives. The GD now have it down to a science. Not hard to see. Put together a great funky looking box, less a fucking glider, have someone write a 20 page booklet with great photos, and hire the absolute best to mix it (and for the love of God, please dump Kervorkian - he sucks).

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Re: Another new Archival Release - 8/1/98 Alpine Valley
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2020, 12:16:50 PM »
Fuck yeah!!! I loved this show and have never really been a big fan of the aud I have!
agreed. def would love an upgrade of this.

was a good show, but personally had alot of weird mid tour drama going on with people getting arrested and shit so at the time it wasn't my fav, but came to love the tape later.

iirc i actually got in off a fake ticket for this one  :crazy:
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Re: Another new Archival Release - 8/1/98 Alpine Valley
« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2020, 10:08:10 PM »
Yeah I wish this was a multitrack, it sounds fine but itís nowhere near the quality of the Grand Rapids 98 from last year.

Everything after '94 is multitrack but they choose to not use them, which is confounding cause every multitrack release sounds much better. Is it because they plan to eventually return to the gold mine and release tour box sets like the GD, with these billed as superior quality to what was previously released. They really suck at marketing their archives. The GD now have it down to a science. Not hard to see. Put together a great funky looking box, less a fucking glider, have someone write a 20 page booklet with great photos, and hire the absolute best to mix it (and for the love of God, please dump Kervorkian - he sucks).

Yes, Dr. Deaf has got to go. Why do people keep hiring him?!? It's not just Phish, I see his name on other groups as well.
He's trash, but I guess it plays into the lackadaisical release of random archive shows. Can't complain about 2 releases in 3 months, though!
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Re: Another new Archival Release - 8/1/98 Alpine Valley
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2020, 06:42:00 AM »
Yeah I wish this was a multitrack, it sounds fine but itís nowhere near the quality of the Grand Rapids 98 from last year.

Everything after '94 is multitrack but they choose to not use them, which is confounding cause every multitrack release sounds much better. Is it because they plan to eventually return to the gold mine and release tour box sets like the GD, with these billed as superior quality to what was previously released. They really suck at marketing their archives. The GD now have it down to a science. Not hard to see. Put together a great funky looking box, less a fucking glider, have someone write a 20 page booklet with great photos, and hire the absolute best to mix it (and for the love of God, please dump Kervorkian - he sucks).

Yes, Dr. Deaf has got to go. Why do people keep hiring him?!? It's not just Phish, I see his name on other groups as well.
He's trash, but I guess it plays into the lackadaisical release of random archive shows. Can't complain about 2 releases in 3 months, though!

FTR, I'm pretty sure Phish had him master 200+ shows like 15 years ago and they are just releasing them whenever they feel like it. They're not going to him every few months with another show to master. In other words, don't expect anything different for a long time.
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Re: Another new Archival Release - 8/1/98 Alpine Valley
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2020, 07:43:27 AM »
Yeah I wish this was a multitrack, it sounds fine but itís nowhere near the quality of the Grand Rapids 98 from last year.

Everything after '94 is multitrack but they choose to not use them, which is confounding cause every multitrack release sounds much better. Is it because they plan to eventually return to the gold mine and release tour box sets like the GD, with these billed as superior quality to what was previously released. They really suck at marketing their archives. The GD now have it down to a science. Not hard to see. Put together a great funky looking box, less a fucking glider, have someone write a 20 page booklet with great photos, and hire the absolute best to mix it (and for the love of God, please dump Kervorkian - he sucks).

Yes, Dr. Deaf has got to go. Why do people keep hiring him?!? It's not just Phish, I see his name on other groups as well.
He's trash, but I guess it plays into the lackadaisical release of random archive shows. Can't complain about 2 releases in 3 months, though!

FTR, I'm pretty sure Phish had him master 200+ shows like 15 years ago and they are just releasing them whenever they feel like it. They're not going to him every few months with another show to master. In other words, don't expect anything different for a long time.

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Re: Another new Archival Release - 8/1/98 Alpine Valley
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2020, 09:23:31 AM »
I suppose every new release increases the chance they get shapiro to do an FTA

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Re: Another new Archival Release - 8/1/98 Alpine Valley
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2020, 10:03:38 AM »
I suppose every new release increases the chance they get shapiro to do an FTA

Did Shaps do an FTA for this release? I read that he was going to be playing selections from the release when he announced it, but did he play any other archival gems?
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Re: Another new Archival Release - 8/1/98 Alpine Valley
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2020, 10:45:39 AM »
I should probably mention that we did an HFPod episode on this release. came out last week and was a pretty fun conversation.
There are disagreements.

https://www.osirispod.com/podcasts/helping-friendly-podcast/helping-friendly-podcast-episode-178-alpine-valley-8-1-98/

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Re: Another new Archival Release - 8/1/98 Alpine Valley
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2020, 11:16:36 AM »
Yeah I wish this was a multitrack, it sounds fine but itís nowhere near the quality of the Grand Rapids 98 from last year.

Everything after '94 is multitrack but they choose to not use them, which is confounding cause every multitrack release sounds much better. Is it because they plan to eventually return to the gold mine and release tour box sets like the GD, with these billed as superior quality to what was previously released. They really suck at marketing their archives. The GD now have it down to a science. Not hard to see. Put together a great funky looking box, less a fucking glider, have someone write a 20 page booklet with great photos, and hire the absolute best to mix it (and for the love of God, please dump Kervorkian - he sucks).

Yes, Dr. Deaf has got to go. Why do people keep hiring him?!? It's not just Phish, I see his name on other groups as well.
He's trash, but I guess it plays into the lackadaisical release of random archive shows. Can't complain about 2 releases in 3 months, though!

FTR, I'm pretty sure Phish had him master 200+ shows like 15 years ago and they are just releasing them whenever they feel like it. They're not going to him every few months with another show to master. In other words, don't expect anything different for a long time.

Kevorkian wasnít involved with the Grand Rapids 98 and Kent State multitrack releases. 
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But, I don't think our fans do happily lap it up, I think they go online and talk about how it was a bad show.