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Conservative Bible Project: Because the Bible is too "liberal"

Started by guyforget, October 06, 2009, 03:19:11 PM

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guyforget

http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_Bible_Project

QuoteLiberal bias has become the single biggest distortion in modern Bible translations. There are three sources of errors in conveying biblical meaning:

    * lack of precision in the original language, such as terms underdeveloped to convey new concepts introduced by Christ
    * lack of precision in modern language
    * translation bias in converting the original language to the modern one.

Of these three sources of errors, the last introduces the largest error, and the biggest component of that error is liberal bias. Large reductions in this error can be attained simply by retranslating the KJV into modern English.[1]

As of 2009, there is no fully conservative translation of the Bible which satisfies the following ten guidelines:[2]

       1. Framework against Liberal Bias: providing a strong framework that enables a thought-for-thought translation without corruption by liberal bias
       2. Not Emasculated: avoiding unisex, "gender inclusive" language, and other modern emasculation of Christianity
       3. Not Dumbed Down: not dumbing down the reading level, or diluting the intellectual force and logic of Christianity; the NIV is written at only the 7th grade level[3]
       4. Utilize Powerful Conservative Terms: using powerful new conservative terms as they develop;[4] defective translations use the word "comrade" three times as often as "volunteer"; similarly, updating words which have a change in meaning, such as "word", "peace", and "miracle".
       5. Combat Harmful Addiction: combating addiction by using modern terms for it, such as "gamble" rather than "cast lots";[5] using modern political terms, such as "register" rather than "enroll" for the census
       6. Accept the Logic of Hell: applying logic with its full force and effect, as in not denying or downplaying the very real existence of Hell or the Devil.
       7. Express Free Market Parables; explaining the numerous economic parables with their full free-market meaning
       8. Exclude Later-Inserted Liberal Passages: excluding the later-inserted liberal passages that are not authentic, such as the adulteress story
       9. Credit Open-Mindedness of Disciples: crediting open-mindedness, often found in youngsters like the eyewitnesses Mark and John, the authors of two of the Gospels
      10. Prefer Conciseness over Liberal Wordiness: preferring conciseness to the liberal style of high word-to-substance ratio; avoid compound negatives and unnecessary ambiguities; prefer concise, consistent use of the word "Lord" rather than "Jehovah" or "Yahweh" or "Lord God."

Thus, a project has begun among members of Conservapedia to translate the Bible in accordance with these principles. The translated Bible can be found here.

Benefits include:

    * mastery of the Bible, which is priceless
    * mastery of the English language, which is valuable
    * thorough understanding of the differences in Bible translations, particularly the historically important King James Version
    * benefiting from activity that no public school would ever allow; a Conservative Bible could become a text for public school courses
    * liberals will oppose this effort, but they will have to read the Bible to criticize this, and that will open their minds

How long would this project take? There are about 8000 verses in the New Testament. At a careful rate of translating about four verses an hour, it would take one person 2000 hours, or about one year working full time on the project.
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sophist

They left out the real reason Adam was kicked out of heaven, he wanted anal on that 7th day, and well that's too close to an act of homosexuality. 
Can we talk about the Dead?  I'd love to talk about the fucking Grateful Dead, for once, can we please discuss the Grateful FUCKING Dead!?!?!?!

ytowndan

There's so much "LOL" material in there that I don't even know where to start.  Perhaps, I'll just start with the combination of these two words. 

Quoteapplying logic

:lol:
Quote from: nab on July 27, 2007, 12:20:24 AM
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Hicks

Quote from: Trey Anastasio
But, I don't think our fans do happily lap it up, I think they go online and talk about how it was a bad show.

sls.stormyrider

if they want to be really "accurate", they would start with the original, not the KJV

that means go back to the Hebrew.
for the New Tesament, I'm not sure what language it was originally written in - but if it was truly written as a contemporary document (doubt it), it certainly wasn't English, Greek, or Latin is we now know it.

of course, they will just make it say what they want it to say (like everyone else)

-just found out on the wiki it was "Koine Greek"
"toss away stuff you don't need in the end
but keep what's important, and know who's your friend"
"It's a 106 miles to Chicago. We got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."

guyforget

QuoteAdvantages to a Conservative Bible Online

                    *the ensuing debate would flesh out -- and stop -- the infiltration of churches by liberals pretending to be Christian, much as a vote by legislators exposes the liberals

Liberals are fake Christians!


Quote#  this would debunk the pervasive and hurtful myth that Jesus would be a political liberal today

Stop calling Jesus a socialist!

QuoteThird Example - Socialism

Socialistic terminology permeates English translations of the Bible, without justification. This improperly encourages the "social justice" movement among Christians.

For example, the conservative word "volunteer" is mentioned only once in the ESV, yet the socialistic word "comrade" is used three times, "laborer(s)" is used 13 times, "labored" 15 times, and "fellow" (as in "fellow worker") is used 55 times.

Who knew that words in themselves were liberal or conservative?!?  I had no idea!
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sls.stormyrider

so - labor is a liberal term??

I realize that by not believing in Jesus, these people think I'm a heathen and should be sentenced to eternal damnation, but, I thought that religion is about things like social justice.

Quote"word", "peace", and "miracle".
ooooh. those are bad words right there. especially the one in the middle.
must erase that from the Bible.
"toss away stuff you don't need in the end
but keep what's important, and know who's your friend"
"It's a 106 miles to Chicago. We got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses."

Hicks

Quote from: slslbs on October 06, 2009, 04:49:46 PM
so - labor is a liberal term??

I realize that by not believing in Jesus, these people think I'm a heathen and should be sentenced to eternal damnation, but, I thought that religion is about things like social justice.


Actually if you are a good Jew then you get a first class ticket to purgatory!   :-D
Quote from: Trey Anastasio
But, I don't think our fans do happily lap it up, I think they go online and talk about how it was a bad show.

rowjimmy


mistercharlie

"I used to be 'with it', but then they changed what 'it' was and now what I'm with isn't 'it' and what's 'it' seems weird and scary to me"
Quote from: kellerb on August 02, 2009, 02:29:05 AM
You haven't lived until you've had a robot shart in your ear and followed along in the live setlist thread while it happens. 

Superfreakie

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Que te vaya bien, que te vaya bien, Te quiero más que las palabras pueden decir.

WhatstheUse?

I never understood how people think the bible holds any legitimacy when it has been changed so many damn times, and certain groups of people have decided that "this" can be included but "that" cannot..  :?
Bring in the dude!

Alumni

Quote from: WhatstheUse? on October 06, 2009, 11:18:36 PM
I never understood how people think the bible holds any legitimacy when it has been changed so many damn times, and certain groups of people have decided that "this" can be included but "that" cannot..  :?

It's easy to tell the true version. It has meatballs.

Cause I got a degree

nab

What a joke.

In this case Conservative really means whatever the author wants it to mean. 


This sort of thing really pisses me off.  Just gives anti-Christian views authority to laugh at Christians as if this group represented Christianity with any more validity than 20th century style Communism represents the view of all atheists. 

mistercharlie

Quote from: Alumni on October 06, 2009, 11:20:39 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on October 06, 2009, 11:18:36 PM
I never understood how people think the bible holds any legitimacy when it has been changed so many damn times, and certain groups of people have decided that "this" can be included but "that" cannot..  :?

It's easy to tell the true version. It has meatballs.



The spaghetti monster in the sky will not be pleases with this new 'bible'.  :roll:
"I used to be 'with it', but then they changed what 'it' was and now what I'm with isn't 'it' and what's 'it' seems weird and scary to me"
Quote from: kellerb on August 02, 2009, 02:29:05 AM
You haven't lived until you've had a robot shart in your ear and followed along in the live setlist thread while it happens.