Phish 4.0

[susep]

It seems like a pretty SER post, I didn't get the "joke" vibe at all.

[thatfargone]

So is anyone still listening to Miami?

I'm not, nor have I listened to any shows more than once through with the exception of a few tunes that got a repeat.  Maybe I am just bitter I didn't go, but Miami was more of the same exact thing they were doing the last week or so of Fall and I guess after following show by show, listening to everything, I just had my fill.

Right now I have been listening to older stuff and not touching anything 3.0.  The real test is soon to come...is this all we are to expect from the band now, or will they truly take off from here and push the music in new directions?  The question remains: Is Phish now a rock band or still deep down a psychedelic, improvisational band?  Nothing in 2009 answered this either way for me.

[mattstick]

Red Rocks & The Gorge were a good start, imo.

Obviously the overwhelmingly "rock" sound is a result of playing Exile on 10/31.

[thatfargone]

Red Rocks & The Gorge were a good start, imo.

Exactly!  I was so excited for Summer Leg 2 after that start...then it never continued and, dare I say, got safer.  Then again after Albany...I was VERY excited for the last week of tour and, well....just got back to being safe again.

Obviously the overwhelmingly "rock" sound is a result of playing Exile on 10/31.

And, nothing scares me more than this fact.  Phish's sound from 1997-2000 was a direct extension of "Remain in Light."  If Phish is going to use "Exile" in a similar fashion and base the foreseeable future on the straight ahead "solo over the chords rawk jams" of 2009...I do not feel good about that.  At all. :|

[sophist]

So is anyone still listening to Miami?

I've been rocking Deer Creek & Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.

I'm not.  I relistened to the following 09 shows last week Asheville, Knoxville, and Cincy I.  Besides that I have been on a 95 and 99 kick.  In general though, my Phish listening has wanned since the year ended.  I have been listening to a lot of albums (Animal Collective, Flaming Lips, Iron & Wine, Andrew Bird, M. Ward, and Wilco) and Grateful Dead. 

[Buffalo Budd]

I'm still listening to Miami, it's the only full run of shows from '09 I've kept on my player along with a few highlights from Summer and Fall.

[Marmar]

Red Rocks & The Gorge were a good start, imo.

Exactly!  I was so excited for Summer Leg 2 after that start...then it never continued and, dare I say, got safer.  Then again after Albany...I was VERY excited for the last week of tour and, well....just got back to being safe again.

Obviously the overwhelmingly "rock" sound is a result of playing Exile on 10/31.

And, nothing scares me more than this fact.  Phish's sound from 1997-2000 was a direct extension of "Remain in Light."  If Phish is going to use "Exile" in a similar fashion and base the foreseeable future on the straight ahead "solo over the chords rawk jams" of 2009...I do not feel good about that.  At all. :|

weaksauce....

If that held true then 1995 should have had gooey 4 part harmonies on quick 4 minute ditties.....and 1996 should have been like Rawk Peak because it should have been based on The Who.....and then 1999 should have been all about the drugged out rawkstar due to Velvet Underground.....

and that entire statement I just put there...except for maybe the last sentence.....is FALSE....BLATENTLY.

Look at it like this.....they can't do what they do without the foundation in rawk.....period, /discussion

[thatfargone]

What exact part of the sauce is weak? 

I am stating a hypothetical concern based on the past and the idea that mattsticks theory is correct and that Exile did influence the straight rock of this past year...not that I am sure Phish will base this era off of Exile like they based the "Cow Funk" off of Remain.  Nor, did I state that Phish bases their playing style after each Halloween album.  There is no debate that the jam style of 1997-2000 was a direct result of the preparation and practice that went into rehearsing Remain.  If they use Exile in a similar fashion I do not expect anything more that what we have been given from 3.0.

[rowjimmy]

a new era for nachoes?

CRUNCHITY!

[Superfreakie]

I'm waiting for Phish 4.5.

[G. Augusto]

Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.

I listened to the two Camden '03 shows last week twice.
Still don't get the hate for the first night and the second night straight SMOKES!

[Hicks]

Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.

I listened to the two Camden '03 shows last week twice.
Still don't get the hate for the first night and the second night straight SMOKES!

Yup, people who have hate for 7/30/03 are missing the boat.

[G. Augusto]

Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.

I listened to the two Camden '03 shows last week twice.
Still don't get the hate for the first night and the second night straight SMOKES!

Yup, people who have hate for 7/30/03 are missing the boat.

I know you don't like 07-29, but do you think that 07-30 is a better show?

[GBL]

PNC 00, next vid release?

The 28th is one of my favorite shows of all time..

[Hicks]

Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.

I listened to the two Camden '03 shows last week twice.
Still don't get the hate for the first night and the second night straight SMOKES!

Yup, people who have hate for 7/30/03 are missing the boat.

I know you don't like 07-29, but do you think that 07-30 is a better show?

Than 7/29?  Heck yeah, I love 7/30/03.