Final 4 - 1-Phish v 1-The Beatles

[emay]

Cant you say that  is a cornerstone in live music...
The start of a multi-day festival of just one band
Covering whole albums straight through
CK5 and his ability with lighting.
Playing Chess with the audience


None of these change the course of culture or society but they are breakthroughs in live music...stuff other bands never thought of doing.

[sls.stormyrider]

^^^
that is all true

Remind me, what was the 1st album they covered?

What are the chances that a nationally touring band, with it's own albums out, will cover a Phish album 20 years from now?

[fauxpaxfauxreal]

100 percent.

[cactusfan]

i'm with Pie Guy. this is an impossible choice. there's the band i've obsessed over for years. and there's the band that objectively is the obvious winner.

i want to vote beatles. but is that really the honest choice for me?

argh!

for the purposes of this contest, forget objectivity. i am going purely with my gut, and so,   






edit: GUT, that is

[khalpin]

^^^
that is all true

Remind me, what was the 1st album they covered?

What are the chances that a nationally touring band, with it's own albums out, will cover a Phish album 20 years from now?

Well played, sir.

[fauxpaxfauxreal]

This is a lot more fun to watch then the championship game last night, that's faux shaux.

[gah]

^^^
that is all true

Remind me, what was the 1st album they covered?

What are the chances that a nationally touring band, with it's own albums out, will cover a Phish album 20 years from now?

Well played, sir.

[Igbo]

IT'S THE FUCKING BEATLES!!!!! EVER HEARD OF THEM???

[WhatstheUse?]

IT'S THE FUCKING BEATLES!!!!! EVER HEARD OF THEM???

Are they the ones who used to create insanely creative, balls to the wall, psychedelic improvisational music that would blow your mind on a nightly basis?

[McGrupp]

I'm not a huge beatles fan. I respect the shit out of their music and their place in history, but I just don't listen to them that much.

[rowjimmy]

RJ, I get why you're all Dylan on this one, but I can't agree with you... Sgt. Pepper is the reason you collect vinyl.

For the record... Pie Guy is wrong in assuming that Sgt Pepper is why I collect vinyl.

I don't even own Sgt. Pepper on vinyl.

The Grateful Dead is why I started collecting vinyl.


That said, I voted for the original Fab Four.

I don't mean specifically why you started collecting... I mean it's the reason vinyl is still around to collect. It's the reason anybody cares at all about the album format.

And I already debunked THAT part.

Plenty of awesome albums preceded it.

[Igbo]

IT'S THE FUCKING BEATLES!!!!! EVER HEARD OF THEM???

Are they the ones who used to create insanely creative, balls to the wall, psychedelic improvisational music that would blow your mind on a nightly basis?

Maybe not balls to the wall improve music true. But they did write all of these.........

A Day in The Life
A Hard Days Night
Across The universe
All My Loving
All You Need Is Love
All Together Now
And I love her
Back In the USSR
BEcause
Benefit of mr Kite
Birthday
Blackbird
Cant Buy Me love
Carry That Weight
Cry Baby Cry
Day Tripper
Dear Prudence
Dig A Pony
Dont let me Down
Eleanor Rigby
Everybodys got something to hide except for me and my monkey
Get Back
Glass Onion
Golden Slumbers
Good day Sunshine
Got to Get you into my life
happiness is a warm gun
helter skelter
hey jude
here comes the sun
here, there, everywhere
help
I am th Walrus
I me mine
I need you
I saw her standing there
i wanna be your man
i want to hold your hand
i want you (she's so heavy)
In My Life
Ive got a feeling
Lady Madonna
Let it be
Long, long, long
Love me do
Lovely Rita
Martha My dear
maxwells silver hammer
Mear Mr Mustard
Mother Natures Son
Norwegian Wood!
Nowhere Man
Ob-la-di ob-la-da
octopus' garden
Oh darling'
Paperback Writer
Penny Lane
Piggies
Polyethene Pam
rain
Revolution
Revolution #9
Rocky raccoon
Sexy Sadie
Sgt. Peppers
She came in through the bathroom window
She loves you
she said she said
Something
Strawberry Fields
Sun King
Taxman
The Ballad of John and Yoko
The End
The Fool on the Hill
The Long and Winding Road
Tomorrow NEver Knows
We Can Work It Out
When i'm 64
While my guitar gently weeps
With a little help from my friends
Within Without you
Yellow Submarine
Yer Blues
Yesterday!

[Hicks]

Sgt. Pepper was most definitely instrumental in forwarding the idea that an album can be more than a collection of songs.

[JPhishman]

 

[gah]

Are they the ones who used to create insanely creative, balls to the wall, psychedelic improvisational music that would blow your mind on a nightly basis?

I think what becomes difficult for people is to understand the significance they had or how insane this music was at the time, because it requires you to eliminate everything you've ever listened to that came after it. To truly understand it in it's historical context you have to ignore everything else you've ever heard that was created since then, which in the case of most of us on this board, means everything you've ever listened to in your life.

I don't know if that makes sense, it's a little tough to put into words, but everything that came after has been influenced by them, so comparing them to any band you hear today, you have to realize, they wouldn't exist had it not been for the Beatles. And to the argument ph92 made elsewhere, which I'll be honest, bugged me for a few days, stating, so what if they were the first, couldn't someone else in the world have done that, and the answer is no. No, because if there was, they would have done it. And secondly, even if someone came up with the same melodies, the songs wouldn't have been the same. Or the words, and the attitudes wouldn't have been the same. Or any of the infinite decisions that created that group of 4 individuals or the circumstances that brought them together to make this happen. Quite simply no, it wouldn't have been the same.

And in another sense, try and sit down a write a song, lyrics, melody, etc. And then try and have any one other than your friends and family dig it. And then have everyone in the world dig it. Do that once, and you'll be a star. Now imagine doing that 50 times over....Just look at that list Igbo threw out there. Each of those songs in itself is a masterpiece. The more I think about what PG said, even if he doesn't vote that way this time around, they are the cornerstones of music. Everything else, is, well, just everything else.