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Rd 1 - Ghost - (1) 11-17-97 vs. (4) 07-01-97

Started by runawayjimbo, July 15, 2012, 11:09:44 PM

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runawayjimbo

Round #1 - Ghost Bracket

(1) 11-17-1997 - McNichols Arena - Denver, CO

vs.

(4) 07-01-1997 - Paradiso - Amsterdam, NET

POLLS CLOSE: Monday, 7/23, 10pm EST
Quote from: DoW on October 26, 2013, 09:06:17 PM
I'm drunk but that was epuc

Quote from: mehead on June 22, 2016, 11:52:42 PM
The Line still sucks. Hard.

Quote from: Gumbo72203 on July 25, 2017, 08:21:56 PM
well boys, we fucked up by not being there.


Undermind

Trey at Darien Music Center on 8/13/09 while paying respect to Les Paul
Quote...and hopefully we'll be playing well into our nineties and hopefully you guys will be there too


Phish Video Collection Blog

mehead

His eyes were clean and pure but his mind was so deranged

gainesvillegreen

I listened to the Amsterdam Ghost a few times the past couple of days while I paint the house here in CO, and it is fun, but it isn't Denver.
Dysfunction and itemized lists of people's failures are where it's at.

phil

Quote from: gainesvillegreen on July 19, 2012, 01:11:26 AM
I listened to the Amsterdam Ghost a few times the past couple of days while I paint the house here in CO, and it is fun, but it isn't Denver.

Bias'd  :wink:

I'm with ya though, Denver Ghost might win it all. It's just too nasty.
Quote from: guyforget on November 15, 2010, 11:10:47 PMsure we tend to ramble, but that was a 3 page off topic tangent on crack and doses for breakfast?

twatts

Having just listened to both back to back (via Live Phish), I have to say that all of you are just plain wrong... 

Amsterdam FTW...

Terry
Oh! That! No, no, no, you're not ready to step into The Court of the Crimson King. At this stage in your training an album like that could turn you into an evil scientist.

----------------------

I want super-human will
I want better than average skill
I want a million dollar bill
And I want it all in a Pill

runawayjimbo

Denver has long been a favorite version of mine. They come out of the gates hard, leaving the song behind around 4 mins in (which is about as long as a 3.0 Ghost). ~10:15-11:30 sounds very familiar, almost like the IT Ghost and that's when things really start heating up. However, they start to lose some steam ~18:30 and it just kinda limps into the end. Still a super hot version though (although I think phil's way overestimating its likely finish in the tournament). And it may not be relevant to this discussion, but let's not forget this was the 4th of 5 songs in a first set. Just sayin'.
 
Not much going on in the Paradiso version until the back of the worm segment but then it starts to get pretty interesting. Still, I don't know; it's definitely more explorative and less one dimensional than Denver, but it's a little too laid back for my taste in a Ghost. There will definitely be some days when I prefer this one over Denver, but not today.
 
Denver gets my vote
Quote from: DoW on October 26, 2013, 09:06:17 PM
I'm drunk but that was epuc

Quote from: mehead on June 22, 2016, 11:52:42 PM
The Line still sucks. Hard.

Quote from: Gumbo72203 on July 25, 2017, 08:21:56 PM
well boys, we fucked up by not being there.

twatts

Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 19, 2012, 03:28:05 PM
Denver has long been a favorite version of mine. They come out of the gates hard, leaving the song behind around 4 mins in (which is about as long as a 3.0 Ghost). ~10:15-11:30 sounds very familiar, almost like the IT Ghost and that's when things really start heating up. However, they start to lose some steam ~18:30 and it just kinda limps into the end. Still a super hot version though (although I think phil's way overestimating its likely finish in the tournament). And it may not be relevant to this discussion, but let's not forget this was the 4th of 5 songs in a first set. Just sayin'.

Not much going on in the Paradiso version until the back of the worm segment but then it starts to get pretty interesting. Still, I don't know; it's definitely more explorative and less one dimensional than Denver, but it's a little too laid back for my taste in a Ghost. There will definitely be some days when I prefer this one over Denver, but not today.

Denver gets my vote

Wrong... 

ETA:  Have to admit I was at the Amsterdam show...  It may have been the best two days of my life...
Oh! That! No, no, no, you're not ready to step into The Court of the Crimson King. At this stage in your training an album like that could turn you into an evil scientist.

----------------------

I want super-human will
I want better than average skill
I want a million dollar bill
And I want it all in a Pill

runawayjimbo

Quote from: twatts likes ghoti on July 19, 2012, 04:43:33 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 19, 2012, 03:28:05 PM
Denver has long been a favorite version of mine. They come out of the gates hard, leaving the song behind around 4 mins in (which is about as long as a 3.0 Ghost). ~10:15-11:30 sounds very familiar, almost like the IT Ghost and that's when things really start heating up. However, they start to lose some steam ~18:30 and it just kinda limps into the end. Still a super hot version though (although I think phil's way overestimating its likely finish in the tournament). And it may not be relevant to this discussion, but let's not forget this was the 4th of 5 songs in a first set. Just sayin'.

Not much going on in the Paradiso version until the back of the worm segment but then it starts to get pretty interesting. Still, I don't know; it's definitely more explorative and less one dimensional than Denver, but it's a little too laid back for my taste in a Ghost. There will definitely be some days when I prefer this one over Denver, but not today.

Denver gets my vote

Wrong... 

ETA:  Have to admit I was at the Amsterdam show...  It may have been the best two days of my life...

:hereitisyousentimentalbastard

14-2 tells me I'm right. Although if I had seen them in Amsterdam in '97, you'd never be able to convince me I was wrong either.
Quote from: DoW on October 26, 2013, 09:06:17 PM
I'm drunk but that was epuc

Quote from: mehead on June 22, 2016, 11:52:42 PM
The Line still sucks. Hard.

Quote from: Gumbo72203 on July 25, 2017, 08:21:56 PM
well boys, we fucked up by not being there.

justjezmund

The fact that Lucerna is not here is just fake.
Game over.





Anyway Denver.
Quote from: Augustus on September 29, 2013, 09:26:46 AM
It's like BJ Galore over here!


Quote from: rowjimmy on May 13, 2013, 09:36:00 AM
I use records for that and don't have to justify it to my friends.

runawayjimbo

Quote from: JustJezmund on July 19, 2012, 05:12:38 PM
The fact that Lucerna is not here is just fake.
Game over.

Prague, Radio City, and IT all finished 1 vote back from 07-01-97 and 07-02-98.
Quote from: DoW on October 26, 2013, 09:06:17 PM
I'm drunk but that was epuc

Quote from: mehead on June 22, 2016, 11:52:42 PM
The Line still sucks. Hard.

Quote from: Gumbo72203 on July 25, 2017, 08:21:56 PM
well boys, we fucked up by not being there.

justjezmund

Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 19, 2012, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: JustJezmund on July 19, 2012, 05:12:38 PM
The fact that Lucerna is not here is just fake.
Game over.

Prague, Radio City, and IT all finished 1 vote back from 07-01-97 and 07-02-98.

all three of those destory Amsterdam IMO.
Quote from: Augustus on September 29, 2013, 09:26:46 AM
It's like BJ Galore over here!


Quote from: rowjimmy on May 13, 2013, 09:36:00 AM
I use records for that and don't have to justify it to my friends.

mistercharlie

Quote from: JustJezmund on July 19, 2012, 05:49:37 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 19, 2012, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: JustJezmund on July 19, 2012, 05:12:38 PM
The fact that Lucerna is not here is just fake.
Game over.

Prague, Radio City, and IT all finished 1 vote back from 07-01-97 and 07-02-98.

all three of those destory Amsterdam IMO.
Radio City was my pick for best Ghost.
"I used to be 'with it', but then they changed what 'it' was and now what I'm with isn't 'it' and what's 'it' seems weird and scary to me"
Quote from: kellerb on August 02, 2009, 02:29:05 AM
You haven't lived until you've had a robot shart in your ear and followed along in the live setlist thread while it happens. 

runawayjimbo

Quote from: JustJezmund on July 19, 2012, 05:49:37 PM
Quote from: runawayjimbo on July 19, 2012, 05:36:42 PM
Quote from: JustJezmund on July 19, 2012, 05:12:38 PM
The fact that Lucerna is not here is just fake.
Game over.

Prague, Radio City, and IT all finished 1 vote back from 07-01-97 and 07-02-98.

all three of those destory Amsterdam IMO.

I hear you. If only we had as many people submitting their picks as bitching about what made the cut after the fact. :wink:
Quote from: DoW on October 26, 2013, 09:06:17 PM
I'm drunk but that was epuc

Quote from: mehead on June 22, 2016, 11:52:42 PM
The Line still sucks. Hard.

Quote from: Gumbo72203 on July 25, 2017, 08:21:56 PM
well boys, we fucked up by not being there.