The Political Pot Thread

[Undermind]

:-o

Looks like I'm moving to Uruguay!

that was my thought

[mbw]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/07/health/charlotte-child-medical-marijuana/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

[Mr. Natural]

Sanjay Gupta's public cannabis apology (in the form of his new hour-long CNN special "Weed") is on right now. Damn Xfinity doesn't carry it.  :x

[whatapiper]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/07/health/charlotte-child-medical-marijuana/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Quite a read, thanks.

[VDB]

Toronto mayor: I've smoked "a lot of" pot.

I hope you voted for this guy, mattstick.

[VDB]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/07/health/charlotte-child-medical-marijuana/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Quite a read, thanks.

Indeed.

[VDB]

Holder says feds won't interfere with legalization in WA, CO.

Good news for good sense.

[emay]

 

sweet

[runawayjimbo]

Holder says feds won't interfere with legalization in WA, CO.

Good news for good sense.

I'm confused: I thought the DoJ had no choice but to enforce federal law?  :wink:

Seems more like a caution flag than a slam dunk for legalization proponents. There's a good deal still at the discretion of the DoJ (how do you define whether or not "state enforcement efforts are not sufficiently robust"). But I guess it's better than could have been expected given the administration's previous hardline stance on the issue.

[Mr. Natural]

Holder says feds won't interfere with legalization in WA, CO.

Good news for good sense.

One part hopeful, one part relieved, one part I'll-believe-it-when-I-see-it.
I'm glad we're getting in gear and moving forward, but I remember hearing the same thing about medical marijuana, which definitely continued getting fucked over by feds (i.e. prohibition from banks and armored-car services).
Stating a federal position on record is still pretty awesome.

[emay]

Holder says feds won't interfere with legalization in WA, CO.

Good news for good sense.

One part hopeful, one part relieved, one part I'll-believe-it-when-I-see-it.
I'm glad we're getting in gear and moving forward, but I remember hearing the same thing about medical marijuana, which definitely continued getting fucked over by feds (i.e. prohibition from banks and armored-car services).
Stating a federal position on record is still pretty awesome.

yeah true, this is good evidence to bring up if any of the feds try to bust up a legal dispensary center.
but that still wont stop DEA and the feds from busting a lot of illegal dispensaries that grow a ton to also sell out of state. A lot of times I feel like when dispensaries get busted they put on this oh were legal innocent operating under state law when if that was all true, they wouldnt have DEA bustin down their door. They must have had an investigation and seen either more herb being produced that they were sellin in the store or more money coming in than what they were making.

[Hicks]

Holder says feds won't interfere with legalization in WA, CO.

Good news for good sense.

One part hopeful, one part relieved, one part I'll-believe-it-when-I-see-it.
I'm glad we're getting in gear and moving forward, but I remember hearing the same thing about medical marijuana, which definitely continued getting fucked over by feds (i.e. prohibition from banks and armored-car services).
Stating a federal position on record is still pretty awesome.

yeah true, this is good evidence to bring up if any of the feds try to bust up a legal dispensary center.
but that still wont stop DEA and the feds from busting a lot of illegal dispensaries that grow a ton to also sell out of state. A lot of times I feel like when dispensaries get busted they put on this oh were legal innocent operating under state law when if that was all true, they wouldnt have DEA bustin down their door. They must have had an investigation and seen either more herb being produced that they were sellin in the store or more money coming in than what they were making.

Also, when the Feds come in gun charges are frequently involved, making said dispensary even less innocent. 

Also, also looks like Jimbo just lost one of his anti-Obama talking points, which is the real win here.    :wink:

[runawayjimbo]

Holder says feds won't interfere with legalization in WA, CO.

Good news for good sense.

One part hopeful, one part relieved, one part I'll-believe-it-when-I-see-it.
I'm glad we're getting in gear and moving forward, but I remember hearing the same thing about medical marijuana, which definitely continued getting fucked over by feds (i.e. prohibition from banks and armored-car services).
Stating a federal position on record is still pretty awesome.

yeah true, this is good evidence to bring up if any of the feds try to bust up a legal dispensary center.
but that still wont stop DEA and the feds from busting a lot of illegal dispensaries that grow a ton to also sell out of state. A lot of times I feel like when dispensaries get busted they put on this oh were legal innocent operating under state law when if that was all true, they wouldnt have DEA bustin down their door. They must have had an investigation and seen either more herb being produced that they were sellin in the store or more money coming in than what they were making.

Also, when the Feds come in gun charges are frequently involved, making said dispensary even less innocent. 

Also, also looks like Jimbo just lost one of his anti-Obama talking points, which is the real win here.    :wink:

You're not even gonna wait to see how this shakes out? Just going to take this proclamation at face value and chalk it up as a win (completely ignoring 4.5 yrs of draconian drug enforcement policy and a maddeningly pathetic clemency record)?

Like I said, this is a step in the right direction, but I think I'll wait to see how this is implemented before I absolve Obama of his past sins. YMMV

[Mr. Natural]

Interesting point about the gun charges. Since it is illegal for dispensaries & patients to own/possess firearms & ammunition; and they are denied banking, credit card, and armored car service, they are forced to handle & transport large amounts of cash without any protection.
This puts them in a very dangerous position. :shakehead: 

[VDB]

Wait - are you saying medical marijuana patients are not allowed to own firearms or ammunition?