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7.20.98 flac won't decode

Started by jedifunk, January 03, 2005, 01:16:57 PM

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jedifunk

January 03, 2005, 01:16:57 PM
Hey all

Recently DLed this show off of BT, and just got around to decoding it to listen.  Problem is the show doesnt decode.  I did a checksum of the flac fingers and everything checks out ok, but when i try to decode the files, only the 1st song from the encore will decode, and even then, it doesnt properly work.

Anyone else have this problem with this show or with flacs in general?  Any help is appreciated.
Much Respect
(the other resident mac guy) [macbook air]
"Good Funk, real funk is not played by four white guys from Vermont.. If anything, you could call what we're doing cow funk or something.."
- Trey Anastasio

guyforget

#1
January 04, 2005, 02:00:38 AM
This source?

QuotePhish
7.20.98
County Fairgrounds
Ventura, Ca

Source:
Schoeps Mk4's > Vms021b> Sbm-1 > Da-P1 > Clone

Transfer:
Fostex D5 @ 44.1k > Vx Pocket 440 > Toshiba Portege 3480ct >
SF 6.0 > Cd Wave > Flac

Transferred, Seeded By;
Greg Lance
gotfob@hotmail.com

Disc 1/Set I
1. Bathtub Gin
2. Dirt
3. Poor Heart
4. Lawn Boy
5. My Sweet One
6. Birds Of A Feather
7. Theme From The Bottom
8. Water in The Sky
9. Moma Dance
10. Split Open & Melt

Disc 2/Set II
1. Drowned >
2. Makisupa Policeman
3. Maze
4. Sea & Sand
5. Prince Caspian
6. Harry Hood

Disc 3/Encore
-Encore
1. Sexual Healing
2. HYHU
3. Halley's Comet

Sounds like your files arent complete.  Do they pass a flac 'test?'  My files decode to .wav normally with no apparant errors, and all files sound great when I listen to them.  I have not burned an audio cd from them, I only decoded them for this test.  

Code Select
allen@mockingbird:/media/lossless4/phish/ph1998-07-20.flacf $ shntool len *
   length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE problems filename
   21:36.06      228628556    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d1t01.flac
   21:36.06      228628556    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d1t01.wav
    3:55.09       41475212    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d1t02.flac
    3:55.09       41475212    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d1t02.wav
    3:59.35       42241964    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d1t03.flac
    3:59.35       42241964    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d1t03.wav
    3:02.09       32126012    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d1t04.flac
    3:02.09       32126012    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d1t04.wav
    3:25.40       36256124    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d1t05.flac
    3:25.40       36256124    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d1t05.wav
    6:02.22       63908588    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d1t06.flac
    6:02.22       63908588    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d1t06.wav
    9:27.21      100068236    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d1t07.flac
    9:27.21      100068236    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d1t07.wav
    2:44.37       29016668    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d1t08.flac
    2:44.37       29016668    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d1t08.wav
    9:59.08      105682460    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d1t09.flac
    9:59.08      105682460    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d1t09.wav
   13:35.25      143824676    -b-   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d1t10.flac
   13:35.25      143824676    -b-   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d1t10.wav
   13:50.69      146574332    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d2t01.flac
   13:50.69      146574332    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d2t01.wav
    8:58.38       94992620    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d2t02.flac
    8:58.38       94992620    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d2t02.wav
   12:11.73      129120140    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d2t03.flac
   12:11.73      129120140    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d2t03.wav
    3:10.61       33659516    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d2t04.flac
    3:10.61       33659516    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d2t04.wav
   12:08.50      128536844    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d2t05.flac
   12:08.50      128536844    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d2t05.wav
   17:01.71      180271436    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d2t06.flac
   17:01.71      180271436    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d2t06.wav
    7:41.63       81468620    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d3t01.flac
    7:41.63       81468620    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d3t01.wav
    1:44.32       18420908    ---   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d3t02.flac
    1:44.32       18420908    ---   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d3t02.wav
   10:12.46      108064460    -b-   --   ---xx   ph1998-07-20d3t03.flac
   10:12.46      108064460    -b-   --   -----   ph1998-07-20d3t03.wav
[/code]
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jedifunk

#2
January 04, 2005, 12:28:01 PM
Yes, its the same source.  Here's what I get when i do a flac checksum:

ph1998.07.20d1t01.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d1t01.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d1t02.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d1t02.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d1t03.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d1t03.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d1t04.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d1t04.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d1t05.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d1t05.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d1t06.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d1t06.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d1t07.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d1t07.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d1t08.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d1t08.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d1t09.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d1t09.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d1t10.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d1t10.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d2t01.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d2t01.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d2t02.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d2t02.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d2t03.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d2t03.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d2t04.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d2t04.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d2t05.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d2t05.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d2t06.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d2t06.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d3t01.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d3t01.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d3t02.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d3t02.flac: ok                    

ph1998.07.20d3t03.flac: testing, 100% complete
ph1998.07.20d3t03.flac: ok                    

Any ideas?
Much Respect
(the other resident mac guy) [macbook air]
"Good Funk, real funk is not played by four white guys from Vermont.. If anything, you could call what we're doing cow funk or something.."
- Trey Anastasio

guyforget

#3
January 04, 2005, 01:22:43 PM
Not yet.  Whats the error it throws when it fails?
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jedifunk

#4
January 04, 2005, 01:27:10 PM
there is no error or failure.  it goes thru the entire decoding process for the whole show, but when go to the folder where the aiff/wav files should be, all there is is a file called ph98-7-20.aiff and its just the halleys encore.  the rest of the show is missing.

any ideas whats going on?

fwiw, i'm on a mac running 10.3.7, using xACT to decode my files.  i've never had any problems using the application with any of my other shows.
Much Respect
(the other resident mac guy) [macbook air]
"Good Funk, real funk is not played by four white guys from Vermont.. If anything, you could call what we're doing cow funk or something.."
- Trey Anastasio

guyforget

#5
January 04, 2005, 01:51:42 PM
Hard drive full?
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jedifunk

#6
January 04, 2005, 02:33:14 PM
not even close, still have 64GB left.  i really don't want to have to try to find this show again. :(
Much Respect
(the other resident mac guy) [macbook air]
"Good Funk, real funk is not played by four white guys from Vermont.. If anything, you could call what we're doing cow funk or something.."
- Trey Anastasio

guyforget

#7
January 04, 2005, 02:50:45 PM
Weird.  Other flac files decode properly?
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jephrey

#8
January 10, 2005, 12:12:23 PM
Yo jedi,

You ever get this working?  I have a question for you too.  I use macflac, have you tried it?  What makes you choose xACT?  Cuz it does SHN also?  I seem to remember it using older flac binaries but they could be on the same version now.  Maybe I should hit that up.  Maybe you could try another decoder just for the fun of it.

-Jephrey
There are 10 types of people in this world.  Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

guyforget

#9
January 10, 2005, 12:28:10 PM
Quote from: jephreyYo jedi,

You ever get this working?  I have a question for you too.  I use macflac, have you tried it?  What makes you choose xACT?  Cuz it does SHN also?  I seem to remember it using older flac binaries but they could be on the same version now.  Maybe I should hit that up.  Maybe you could try another decoder just for the fun of it.

Good call, Jephrey.  I seem to remember that discussion on the furthur forums about the older binaries not working with the newer flac.
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jedifunk

#10
January 10, 2005, 12:29:32 PM
jephrey

hey, i used to use macflac, but when i found xACT i went with it.  it says in the text file with it that the flac binarys are from the author of macflac so i assumed it was the same and also had shn support.

other flacs have decoded fine in the past (havent tried any since this problem occurred).  

maybe i'll give macflac another try.  thanks.
Much Respect
(the other resident mac guy) [macbook air]
"Good Funk, real funk is not played by four white guys from Vermont.. If anything, you could call what we're doing cow funk or something.."
- Trey Anastasio

jephrey

#11
January 10, 2005, 05:27:57 PM
I saw that for xAct, the binaries were version 1.1.0  I don't know what they are for MacFlac (I am not at home right now and didn't do a very extensive search).  there is a beta version for xACT 1.4...  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xACT-users/files/  You have to be signed in to yahoo to get it.  My wife's got access so I could send it to you from home if it's not to big for an email or some other method (3.7M).  You could try that too.  I may take another look at xACT too.  If I remember right, it's the one that changes all the damn flac icons to something weird(not that it totally matters).  Nope, that's Flacer.  MacFlac leaves the icons alone.

There is a version 1.1.1 that is supposed to speed up decoding  

http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html

There are other resources at that main page.

-Jephrey
There are 10 types of people in this world.  Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

jedifunk

#12
January 10, 2005, 08:12:28 PM
i would be grateful if you could email me the xACT from yahoo.  you can get my email form the link below.  thanks.
Much Respect
(the other resident mac guy) [macbook air]
"Good Funk, real funk is not played by four white guys from Vermont.. If anything, you could call what we're doing cow funk or something.."
- Trey Anastasio

jephrey

#13
January 11, 2005, 01:05:31 AM
On its way to your hotmail addy.  I am re-installing, it didn't decode shns.  I may not have had all the stuff I needed installed.  I'll install it clean and see what goes.

-Jephrey
There are 10 types of people in this world.  Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

jedifunk

#14
January 20, 2005, 11:23:22 AM
jephrey

just gettin back to ya on that update (1.4) of xACT.  its been decoding shns just fine, and i finally just tried a flac fileset (8-7-98) and it worked just fine.  i still havent' gotten around to trying 7-20-98 with this updated version.

i'll let you know when i do.  thanks again.
Much Respect
(the other resident mac guy) [macbook air]
"Good Funk, real funk is not played by four white guys from Vermont.. If anything, you could call what we're doing cow funk or something.."
- Trey Anastasio
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