The Road to November

[sophist]

Graduate from Harvard law School, you are unstable but attend 5 different
small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

:roll:  :roll:

Where one gets their degree is irrelevant and how long it takes is irrelevant as well.  Remember, W got an MBA on time from Harvard (case and point about ivy league education).  You can't have it both ways (implying Obama's education is relevant to his resume and discrediting Palin for her education). 

Call her out for being a liar, an idiot when it comes to foreign policy and domestic economics, not a bad student.   

[gah]

Graduate from Harvard law School, you are unstable but attend 5 different
small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

:roll:  :roll:

Where one gets their degree is irrelevant and how long it takes is irrelevant as well.  Remember, W got an MBA on time from Harvard (case and point about ivy league education).  You can't have it both ways (implying Obama's education is relevant to his resume and discrediting Palin for her education). 

Call her out for being a liar, an idiot when it comes to foreign policy and domestic economics, not a bad student.   

I agree. It doesn't matter. Those were not personal views but those being expressed by the Republican Party. Calling someone with his education unstable and with hers as well rounded is ridiculous. It's just portrayals that fit the needs of the Party to express content with their choice and discontent with the other party's.

[sophist]

Graduate from Harvard law School, you are unstable but attend 5 different
small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

:roll:  :roll:

Where one gets their degree is irrelevant and how long it takes is irrelevant as well.  Remember, W got an MBA on time from Harvard (case and point about ivy league education).  You can't have it both ways (implying Obama's education is relevant to his resume and discrediting Palin for her education). 

Call her out for being a liar, an idiot when it comes to foreign policy and domestic economics, not a bad student.   

I agree. It doesn't matter. Those were not personal views but those being expressed by the Republican Party. Calling someone with his education unstable and with hers as well rounded is ridiculous. It's just portrayals that fit the needs of the Party to express content with their choice and discontent with the other party's.

Well that is politics, and it is quite sad in my opinion.  We (society) have moved away from the issues and the election is a popularity contest.  Do you really think W would have won on policy alone?  I doubt it (even with the "pray the gay away" campaign of 2004 and its attempt to steer people away from the Iraqi debacle). 

[gah]

"Well that is politics, and it is quite sad in my opinion.  We (society) have moved away from the issues and the election is a popularity contest.  Do you really think W would have won on policy alone?  I doubt it (even with the "pray the gay away" campaign of 2004 and its attempt to steer people away from the Iraqi debacle)."

Agreed. The Republicans are very bright individuals, diverting the fact from the entire Iraqi war being a mistake and the knowledge that had already been presented showing Bush had lied about it, and was on some personal mission to correlate what happened on 9/11 to Saddam, and still pull out the win. Amazing. Why? Because he's thype of guy I could go to the bar and have a beer with. Pathetic and genius at the same time.

[mattstick]

This is Your Nation on White Privilege
By Tim Wise / September 13, 2008

For those who still can't grasp the concept of white privilege, or who are constantly looking for some easy-to-understand examples of it, perhaps this list will help.

White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because "every family has challenges," even as black and Latino families with similar "challenges" are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.

White privilege is when you can call yourself a "fuckin' redneck," like Bristol Palin's boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you'll "kick their fuckin' ass," and talk about how you like to "shoot shit" for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug.

White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of, then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first place because of affirmative action.

White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don't all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S. Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means you're "untested."

White privilege is being able to say that you support the words "under God" in the pledge of allegiance because "if it was good enough for the founding fathers, it's good enough for me," and not be immediately disqualified from holding office--since, after all, the pledge was written in the late 1800s and the "under God" part wasn't added until the 1950s--while believing that reading accused criminals and terrorists their rights (because, ya know, the Constitution, which you used to teach at a prestigious law school requires it), is a dangerous and silly idea only supported by mushy liberals.

White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make people immediately scared of you.

White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto was "Alaska first," and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you're black and your spouse merely fails to come to a 9/11 memorial so she can be home with her kids on the first day of school, people immediately think she's being disrespectful.

White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and the work they do--like, among other things, fight for the right of women to vote, or for civil rights, or the 8-hour workday, or an end to child labor--and people think you're being pithy and tough, but if you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in college--you're somehow being mean, or even sexist.

White privilege is being able to convince white women who don't even agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your running mate anyway, because all of a sudden your presence on the ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made them give your party a "second look."

White privilege is being able to fire people who didn't support your political campaigns and not be accused of abusing your power or being a typical politician who engages in favoritism, while being black and merely knowing some folks from the old-line political machines in Chicago mean you must be corrupt.

White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God's punishment on Jews for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you're just a good church-going Christian, but if you're black and friends with a black pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you're an extremist who probably hates America.

White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked by a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you such a "trick question," while being black and merely refusing to give one-word answers to the queries of Bill O'Reilly means you're dodging the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual and nuanced.

White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a POW has anything at all to do with your fitness for president, while being black and experiencing racism is, as Sarah Palin has referred to it a "light" burden.

And finally, white privilege is the only thing that could possibly allow someone to become president when he has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time, even as unemployment is skyrocketing, people are losing their homes, inflation is rising, and the U.S. is increasingly isolated from world opinion, just because white voters aren't sure about that whole "change" thing.  Ya know, it's just too vague and ill-defined, unlike, say, four more years of the same, which is very concrete and certain...

White privilege is, in short, the problem.

[Poster Nutbag]

pretty good read!! the republicans always seem to pull this shit...throw low blows all the way threw and then play off questions of the real issues as a way to somewhat slander them...what a joke this woman is too...did you watch Bill Marh on Friday?? the one guy put it best about her...picking her as VP is a mockery and people should be outraged by the pick and McCain should already be a loser because of it....

[Hicks]

Werd.  Everyone should read that.

[sophist]

Werd.  Everyone should read that.

shit was weak, no R. Kelly or OJ defense  :wink:  :-o

In all seriousness, it was a great read (it offered an abundance of perspective).  Thanks to mattstick for posting it. 

[rowjimmy]

White privilege is when you can own nine houses (but only claim seven in public) and a private jet and yet get away with claiming that a man who was raised by a single mother on food stamps is an elitist.

[MiamiPhish]

White privilege is when you can own nine houses (but only claim seven in public) and a private jet and yet get away with claiming that a man who was raised by a single mother on food stamps is an elitist.

9 f'ing houses.  Trump probably doesn't have 9 houses.

[gah]

Excellent article. Copied (with rj's add on) and sent to everyone I know.

Honestly, I think everyone on here, if you feel strongly enough about this election, should do all that they can to try and educate those folks that are independent or on the fence about who to vote for with this type of material. Just a quick run through several of these political threads should give you enough information to speak with confidence to anyone that is undecided. Now, those that are set on McCain and the Repulican party...that's another story.

[sls.stormyrider]

thanks for posting Matt.

[gah]

Here's a pretty cool link.

http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard;_ylt=AsOJVx9ZEjWlPQjvYtZBj0jCw5R4

[sls.stormyrider]

^^^
interesting.

this may be stating the obvious, but I am pretty sure that we are going to go to bed 11/4 and not know who the next Pres will be.

[rowjimmy]

It's funny how they have "No Data" for D.C.

Anyone who knows anything about the District of Columbia knows that they go Democrat.
It may only be 3 electoral votes but, in this election, three may well make the difference.