It's post show so let's discuss
2009-07-30
Red Rocks Amphitheater Morrison, CO
Sound Check: Foam, Party Time, Sugar Shack, Beauty of a Broken Heart, (Mike tune), Billy Breathes, Time Turns Elastic
Set 1: Divided Sky, Ocelot,The Wedge, Poor Heart, The Moma Dance, Horn, Stash, The Horse > Silent in the Morning, Possum
Set 2: Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove, Ghost, Wolfman's Brother, Limb By Limb, Billy Breathes, Squirming Coil, David Bowie
Encore: Loving Cup
As many have posted, can't wait to dig into that second set.
I seriously am contemplating staying up to hear this Ghost and 2nd set.
Looks pretty decent, nothing out of the ordinary for 3.0 but I'm hoping that the Ghost lives up to all of the chatter that's going on.
Quote from: thechad on July 31, 2009, 01:38:06 AM
Looks pretty decent, nothing out of the ordinary for 3.0 but I'm hoping that the Ghost lives up to all of the chatter that's going on.
It sounded like Mike's Groove was very standard, but Ghost and Wolfman's went places.
Can't wait to hear the Ghost. I'll probably listen to it first. I'm also excited to hear Silent in the Morning with Page on Piano instead of acoustic trey.
Quote from: Mistercharlie on July 31, 2009, 01:41:12 AM
Can't wait to hear the Ghost. I'll probably listen to it first. I'm also excited to hear Silent in the Morning with Page on Piano instead of acoustic trey.
I forgot about that!
Quote from: Undermind on July 31, 2009, 01:39:29 AM
Quote from: thechad on July 31, 2009, 01:38:06 AM
Looks pretty decent, nothing out of the ordinary for 3.0 but I'm hoping that the Ghost lives up to all of the chatter that's going on.
It sounded like Mike's Groove was very standard, but Ghost and Wolfman's went places.
That's the problem with 3.0. I find set lists are far from being indicative of the actual playing. There was a time when you knew that throwing down a big list meant they were feeling it.
I'm hoping somebody other than Micah Gordon is doing the post production on the SBD.
yaaaaaaaaaawn
Yeah...Goodnight all
And tonight is now available on LP, hopefully they weren't just blowing smoke by saying that the mixes were going to be better. We shall soon see!
Just got back. What a lovely evening! The Stash jam was great--best 3.0 Jam I'd heard up to that point. The most interesting moment for me came during Ghost. When the tune started it felt like people were a bit let down or disappointed with the song selection. The band does play it differently now--without the loops and effects. I enjoyed it though. Nice to hear they guys just play their instruments. They seemed to be repeating a theme that sounded Santana like to me.
Stash was about 19min, well almost and Ghost clocked in at 18, so not bad for 1st show of the tour I guess. My ears will be the judge. Nothing however, jumps out at me when reading the setlist.
One question though:
Was it raining all night or did it break during divided sky, like in '93? Just curious if the weather had an effect on the show....
:phish:
Quote from: RabeldyNugs on July 31, 2009, 03:21:47 AM
Stash was about 19min, well almost and Ghost clocked in at 18, so not bad for 1st show of the tour I guess. My ears will be the judge. Nothing however, jumps out at me when reading the setlist.
One question though:
Was it raining all night or did it break during divided sky, like in '93? Just curious if the weather had an effect on the show....
:phish:
The rain held off thankfully. It was cool though. Glad I remembered my jacket! The only thing that was weird about the event was that Entrance 1 was completely closed off so they had us park in some huge fields right by Entrance 2. I'd never parked there in 11 years of going to shows at the Rocks. I got the last space in a shuttle bus that took me to the top but it was a one-way ticket so I had to walk back to my car when the show was over and it took me 1 hour!! That was a long walk. Glad I had my new key chain LED flashlight!
Set I is up on No Spoilers now. Nevermind, they're doing differently, set I is broken up into at least three parts, don't know how many there are going to be?
I don't know about the no spoilers for this show, the torrent at any rate, part 1 is just a single track and it's mostly pre-show crowd and the first part of DS. It being as late as it is, it might be fixed by morning when you "normal" folks are getting ready for work and the like or just get the megaupload.
Schoeps mk22:
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=527148
...meh... I hope today is better
Also, I edited the setlist. Page on Piano for Horse (!?!?!) deserved an annotation.
I'll try to jump back into the fray tonight... This one looks good on paper; only one new song and a nice twist to the silent. BB was busted out for the first time since 07/23/03! Not sure if that is good or bad, I haven't listened to any version of that song in quite a while.
I suppose tonight will bring a TTE to close out the first set. :rawk: But redemption in 2nd with YEM...
Quote from: mattstick on July 31, 2009, 08:46:52 AM
Quote from: easts_vault on July 31, 2009, 08:08:41 AM
...meh... I hope today is better
lol
But then again it is :phish: playing at RR. I hope that
they enjoyed being back there. Haven't got a chance to listen to the show yet, prolly get to it after work, I hope.
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 31, 2009, 08:20:03 AM
Also, I edited the setlist. Page on Piano for Horse (!?!?!) deserved an annotation.
Upon listening... Page isn't really taking Trey's part on that.
if it ain't broke...
I read many reports...
all greatly exaggerated.
pulling down the LP now... gonna hit that Stash first!
Show was sick, best second set since 10/7/00.
Some flaws here and there with some of the more difficult passages, but the jams were creative and very Mike-oriented.
Mike sporting a new 'do was nice and present in the mix.
Very thematic jam in the Ghost, definitely jamming over one chord progression for a while, could have been a tease but I couldn't place it.
First set was a warm-up - standard but not exceptional, but the Stash was close to being a monster, unique jam for sure.
The locals think they own the venue here it's stupid, people were harassing us because we wouldn't let 15 people stand in a space large enough for 5 people - lots of drunks spilling beer and being chatty on phones, especially in the first set.
Obviously the sickest outdoor venue there is, acoustics are mind blowing, the surroundings are awe inspiring.
Lots of fake tickets on the lot, one guy was selling a stack of fake mailorders for $50.
All my running training paid off in the sprint to the GA seats, I pwn'd that shit.
Hard to imagine they'll top that song selection in the second set tonight or the rest of the run really, that's how much I enjoyed it.
Descent article, but I wasn't aware that they played It's Ice!
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_12957336
Quote from: Undermind on July 31, 2009, 09:13:14 AM
Descent article, but I wasn't aware that they played It's Ice!
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_12957336
I like what the article says about Ocelot: The brand new "Ocelot," off its upcoming album, "Joy," is destined to become a jam vehicle with near infinite possibilities. It is syrupy funk, allowing both Anastasio and keyboardist Page McConnell to couple in a tremendous storm of keys and strings.
Quote from: Undermind on July 31, 2009, 09:13:14 AM
Descent article, but I wasn't aware that they played It's Ice!
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_12957336
I have that and several other articles on rowjimmy.com (http://www.rowjimmy.com) as part of my running post for the RedRocks stand.
/shameless plug
Quote from: mattstick on July 31, 2009, 09:11:57 AM
Show was sick, best second set since 10/7/00.
Some flaws here and there with some of the more difficult passages, but the jams were creative and very Mike-oriented.
Mike sporting a new 'do was nice and present in the mix.
Very thematic jam in the Ghost, definitely jamming over one chord progression for a while, could have been a tease but I couldn't place it.
First set was a warm-up - standard but not exceptional, but the Stash was close to being a monster, unique jam for sure.
The locals think they own the venue here it's stupid, people were harassing us because we wouldn't let 15 people stand in a space large enough for 5 people - lots of drunks spilling beer and being chatty on phones, especially in the first set.
Obviously the sickest outdoor venue there is, acoustics are mind blowing, the surroundings are awe inspiring.
Lots of fake tickets on the lot, one guy was selling a stack of fake mailorders for $50.
All my running training paid off in the sprint to the GA seats, I pwn'd that shit.
Hard to imagine they'll top that song selection in the second set tonight or the rest of the run really, that's how much I enjoyed it.
thanks for the review.
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 31, 2009, 09:18:04 AM
I have that and several other articles on rowjimmy.com (http://www.rowjimmy.com) as part of my running post for the RedRocks stand.
/shameless plug
:wink:
Quote from: flow00 on July 31, 2009, 09:17:00 AM
Quote from: Undermind on July 31, 2009, 09:13:14 AM
Descent article, but I wasn't aware that they played It's Ice!
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_12957336
I like what the article says about Ocelot: The brand new "Ocelot," off its upcoming album, "Joy," is destined to become a jam vehicle with near infinite possibilities. It is syrupy funk, allowing both Anastasio and keyboardist Page McConnell to couple in a tremendous storm of keys and strings.
Absolutely!
Quote from: Mistercharlie on July 31, 2009, 12:42:05 AM
Quote from: PhishPhan on July 31, 2009, 12:41:03 AM
Quote from: JustJezmund on July 31, 2009, 12:37:16 AM
hey just looking at the active viewers bar at the top and just wondering whats up with hidden members. how does that work?
I betcha Row Jimmy changed it in his settings. He said he went nighty night but he is really monitoring us...
:D
So rj = Big Brother? :wink:
maybe...
Any word on the Mike tune during soundcheck? Was it one of the Green Sparrow album?
Totally jamming on "praise you" in this Ghost
Not entirely sure how I feel about it... I guess it's cool because, if I didn't know the source material, I'd be stoked by the jam anyway.
Is there a CCR song witih similar chords?
The whale effect during Hydrogen annoys the shit out of me....
goodmornin
first of all, numero uno, the LIGHTS/Kuroda WEre phenominal!
stash was pretty dern good. at least it left the beaten path.
second set was very good.
overall i found the whole show seemed short, IMO.
second set highlights...the Mikes>H2>groove was very tight. i really enjoyed, especially tight hydroggen-best ive heard in while.
whatev SProbe said about the ghost selection was the exact opposite thought i had(big surprise) setlist selection there was KEY,otherwise it was a =somewhat typical night one fair, the ghost is what got me out of my seat and down to funky town. VERY nicwe ghost. there were soem great modulations in theme, and one a little repetitive ness towarsd the end to keep it from being completley epic.
BOwie wasa nice extraneous bit of juicyness at the end o f the set as well. PS.: BUst out= Billy breathes! :wink:
well, overall, this show was charactereized by energy and tightness. the had me from jump nad even placed the Bathrooom break songs well.
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 31, 2009, 09:22:16 AM
Quote from: Mistercharlie on July 31, 2009, 12:42:05 AM
Quote from: PhishPhan on July 31, 2009, 12:41:03 AM
Quote from: JustJezmund on July 31, 2009, 12:37:16 AM
hey just looking at the active viewers bar at the top and just wondering whats up with hidden members. how does that work?
I betcha Row Jimmy changed it in his settings. He said he went nighty night but he is really monitoring us...
:D
So rj = Big Brother? :wink:
maybe...
I knew you'd see that, You really are Big Brother. :lol:
Quote from: Mistercharlie on July 31, 2009, 10:19:36 AM
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 31, 2009, 09:22:16 AM
Quote from: Mistercharlie on July 31, 2009, 12:42:05 AM
Quote from: PhishPhan on July 31, 2009, 12:41:03 AM
Quote from: JustJezmund on July 31, 2009, 12:37:16 AM
hey just looking at the active viewers bar at the top and just wondering whats up with hidden members. how does that work?
I betcha Row Jimmy changed it in his settings. He said he went nighty night but he is really monitoring us...
:D
So rj = Big Brother? :wink:
maybe...
I knew you'd see that, You really are Big Brother. :lol:
Row Knows, just sayin'
OK - listening to the Stash now - Trey's "Whale Call" effect is all over this Stash jam yet it hasn't bothered me once!! I love this jam. Best Stash I've heard in a long time. Seriously good Stash. Very happy with it!!
Taylorc's recording is excellent. Nice thick and funky Mike. Everyone is very present in the mix.
Captain obvious checking in here, but this show > leg I.
The ghost is the best jizzzzzzsam of 3.0
Quote from: PIE-GUY on July 31, 2009, 10:26:50 AM
OK - listening to the Stash now - Trey's "Whale Call" effect is all over this Stash jam yet it hasn't bothered me once!! I love this jam. Best Stash I've heard in a long time. Seriously good Stash. Very happy with it!!
This Stash is 'Whale Call Central', but I love it!
The jam in Wolfman's is also really rockin'. I swear I heard a little of the 'Superbad' funk from Trey that popped up throughout fall '97.
Sorry if this has been mentioned already: Page in The Horse?
Quote from: Mistercharlie on July 31, 2009, 11:29:56 AM
Quote from: PIE-GUY on July 31, 2009, 10:26:50 AM
OK - listening to the Stash now - Trey's "Whale Call" effect is all over this Stash jam yet it hasn't bothered me once!! I love this jam. Best Stash I've heard in a long time. Seriously good Stash. Very happy with it!!
This Stash is 'Whale Call Central', but I love it!
The jam in Wolfman's is also really rockin'. I swear I heard a little of the 'Superbad' funk from Trey that popped up throughout fall '97.
nice to see it clocking it at 12 minutes. moving in the right direction
Just finishing set I up now...very nice so far, especially the Stash and D-Sky. I like that they opened with that. So far, they seem a little tighter that earlier this summer, but maybe its just me. I'm so jealous of all those lucky bastards who were actually there!
Hopefully I'll be able to stay up tonight for the setlist thread....we stop working on the addition until about 8:00 last night, and I passed out shortly after.
Were the streams any good last night? How was the audio-only one?
all the streams were spotty, even the audio only.
I def. like the way that Stash moves.
Quote from: keeb333 on July 31, 2009, 11:48:04 AM
Were the streams any good last night? How was the audio-only one?
Last night sounded like Robot Farts when you could actually get the stream to come in.
Quote from: VA slim on July 31, 2009, 10:17:20 AM
goodmornin
first of all, numero uno, the LIGHTS/Kuroda WEre phenominal!
stash was pretty dern good. at least it left the beaten path.
second set was very good.
overall i found the whole show seemed short, IMO.
second set highlights...the Mikes>H2>groove was very tight. i really enjoyed, especially tight hydroggen-best ive heard in while.
whatev SProbe said about the ghost selection was the exact opposite thought i had(big surprise) setlist selection there was KEY,otherwise it was a =somewhat typical night one fair, the ghost is what got me out of my seat and down to funky town. VERY nicwe ghost. there were soem great modulations in theme, and one a little repetitive ness towarsd the end to keep it from being completley epic.
BOwie wasa nice extraneous bit of juicyness at the end o f the set as well. PS.: BUst out= Billy breathes! :wink:
well, overall, this show was charactereized by energy and tightness. the had me from jump nad even placed the Bathrooom break songs well.
This just in from VASlim:
(http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/637/pic0186x.jpg)
I think his camera was on mushrooms. :wink:
What does everyone think about the quality of the second leg LivePhish SDB's so far?
IMO It's getting better, can def hear Mike a lot better, and it seems like they mixed it a little better. Trey turned down a little, page and mike turned up. Dunno if that was the case in Red Rocks, but thats what I am hearing on the SDBs. Still room for improvement though
Quote from: VA slim on July 31, 2009, 10:17:20 AM
goodmornin
first of all, numero uno, the LIGHTS/Kuroda WEre phenominal!
stash was pretty dern good. at least it left the beaten path.
second set was very good.
overall i found the whole show seemed short, IMO.
second set highlights...the Mikes>H2>groove was very tight. i really enjoyed, especially tight hydroggen-best ive heard in while.
whatev SProbe said about the ghost selection was the exact opposite thought i had(big surprise) setlist selection there was KEY,otherwise it was a =somewhat typical night one fair, the ghost is what got me out of my seat and down to funky town. VERY nicwe ghost. there were soem great modulations in theme, and one a little repetitive ness towarsd the end to keep it from being completley epic.
BOwie wasa nice extraneous bit of juicyness at the end o f the set as well. PS.: BUst out= Billy breathes! :wink:
well, overall, this show was charactereized by energy and tightness. the had me from jump nad even placed the Bathrooom break songs well.
I felt disappointment coming from somewhere below me and to the right. I guess that's not where you were. I thought Bowie was Phat. Interesting that when Trey shreds the lights turn still and all white. I agree that the colors were BEAUTIFUL last night. One of the special things about being there.
First listen indicates improvement in the LP quality.
Quote from: rowjimmy on July 31, 2009, 12:43:28 PM
First listen indicates improvement in the LP quality.
Definitely an improvement. I would like Page to be a little bit higher, but other than that, I'm happy.
Super solid tour opener last night, with Stash and Ghost being the obvious highlights.
RR is fahking AMAZING, I hate to say it but it really does pwn the Gorge
Looks like today is going to be perfect weather after it was a little chilly last night.
Wilson opener tonight, and I'm calling a big Gin too!
Oh yeah, Page was a little low in the mix from the PA, hopefully they turn him up a bit tonight.
Set 2 was stellar. That ghost was superb. Mike's groove was nice and tight. They seemed a bit nervous for set 1. But after introducing MR Gordon twice to start set 2 it was on. They were pretty tight and excited for that set 2. THREE MORE!!!!!!!!
Quote from: disco on July 31, 2009, 12:55:14 PM
Set 2 was stellar. That ghost was superb. Mike's groove was nice and tight. They seemed a bit nervous for set 1. But after introducing MR Gordon twice to start set 2 it was on. They were pretty tight and excited for that set 2. THREE MORE!!!!!!!!
Like the picture of the little man sporting the cape.
I'm not a big Dave Vann fan, but here are his pictures from last night. Page looks super goofy in one about halfway down.
http://www.jambase.com/Articles/19095/Phish-07.30-Red-Rocks-Day-1
Quote from: mattstick on July 31, 2009, 10:08:42 AM
Is there a CCR song witih similar chords?
Born on a Bayou
Quote from: Sophist on July 31, 2009, 11:16:39 AM
Captain obvious checking in here, but this show > leg I.
The ghost is the best jizzzzzzsam of 3.0
+1
Quote from: Undermind on July 31, 2009, 01:19:26 PM
I'm not a big Dave Vann fan, but here are his pictures from last night. Page looks super goofy in one about halfway down.
http://www.jambase.com/Articles/19095/Phish-07.30-Red-Rocks-Day-1
I do like the last two pics in that series... Nice fairly uncluttered stage w/ the band and not much else but phat jams...
my quick .02....
STASH = inspired!
mikes was hot lots for sure, don't be fooled... but the ghost > wolfmans was DEEP! like 98 style... for real... there was funk, rock, some good spacey shit...
page was laying down the spacey essences... just good stuff all around.. if you liked alpine, this was an upgrade!
i've only listened through Poor Heart, but the sound quality is much better, i think. Also, the Wedge was pretty right on, not that its a hard song to play, but you could feel the band was really enjoying their time back in God's country. Now, back to work. gotta put them ribs on boy!
HOT DAMN! I've only listened to D-Sky so far, but I'm loving these reviews coming in!
I also agree that the LP SBDs are def sounding much better than the 1st leg!
WOOHOO! :wtu:
overall a very solid show that we thoroughly enjoyed from top to bottom.
it left me feeling confident that this leg will start to feel more like THE PHISH.
got some great pics and flipvideo to share but our hotel internet is too slow.
stay tuned..
Quote from: redrum on July 31, 2009, 02:27:05 PM
overall a very solid show that we thoroughly enjoyed from top to bottom.
it left me feeling confident that this leg will start to feel more like THE PHISH.
This is what I love to hear! :banana:
Quote from: redrum on July 31, 2009, 02:27:05 PM
overall a very solid show that we thoroughly enjoyed from top to bottom.
it left me feeling confident that this leg will start to feel more like THE PHISH.
got some great pics and flipvideo to share but our hotel internet is too slow.
stay tuned..
Cool. It sucks your wifi is slow. Is this the 21st century?!
I'm just getting started (only on Ocelot), but I definitely agree with the comments about the LPs sounding better.
Can't wait to hear this Stash and Ghost.
Holy shit! This Stash is pretty darn hot!
Ghost is A+!!!!! Definitely the best one in a long time. The best song of 3.0 imo.
:banana:
Here's the jambase review and some more pictures
http://www.jambase.com/Articles/Story.aspx?StoryID=19098
Ghost was good, but I guess I'm not quite as impressed with it as some others seem to be.
I liked the Stash and Wolfmans jams much better than the ghost from what i've listened to so far.
finished up the schoeps source, taylor has a great pull, nice full sound. Upon further review I'm still lovin this ghost :rawk:
The Wolfmans continues the momentum as does the Limb. The billy was sweet to hear and so well played. When we walked by during soundcheck people said they had been playing it for nearly 20 mins. All we heard was an expansion on the closing theme but with some uncharacteristic improv. I agree with rummy that last night felt so good, no idea what's coming our way tonight....and the frenzy continues :crazy:
Here's the best video I've seen from last night so far. CK5 rules
Someone tell me what theyre jamming at the end of Wolfman's. No, its not Fatboy Slim.
Quote from: guyforget on July 31, 2009, 04:08:13 PM
Someone tell me what theyre jamming at the end of Wolfman's. No, its not Fatboy Slim.
Fatboy Slim was Ghost (and that was not CCR, btw.)
As for this jam, it has a familiar ring but I can't put a name to it.
Hey all, just gettin to my coffee this morning after the show. Didn't see slim, we kept in contact during the show though. My lady loved it, we were 31st row then after d sky she wanted to get closer, in 5 min she txted me to come 5th row fish side, about 1/3 the way in, amazing spot!
They did sound tight, the stash was by far show highlight for me with weekapaug and the ghost>wolfmans combo close behind. The ghost started a little eh for me then they locked into this groove that reminded me of 11/23/97 low rider a little, maybe I'm crazy. D sky to open, tweezy called it, although mikes did open set two...
There was a moment first set when it sounded like Reba, right before wedge I think. It will come, anyway more later, now my wife wants to see all four nights, I tried, bit she didn't get it before. Alpine she took it all in and last night she bumped us to 5th row, danced her azz off and woke up this morning wanting more, ladies and genteleman, phish crack
I WANT NEED PHISH CRACK! :wtu:
that ghost took me places.
Holy shit, is this Stash good or what? For half a second I forgot that I was listening to Phish 3.0.
That message was written around 11am but I did not notice I got a "warning"
went to boulder for the day, mike was runnin around pearl street earlier!
Wish I could stay, if I didn't have that catering gig I would :|
tonight should be the heat...
Here's the Wedge from the same source as the Stash I posted earlier. It comes complete with an Iphone demonstration in the middle, but is still worth a watch.
these are nice!
iPhone demonstration? I'll just watch.
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 31, 2009, 03:22:02 PM
Ghost was good, but I guess I'm not quite as impressed with it as some others seem to be.
I've only given it one listen-through right now, but so far I like the Asheville Ghost better. We'll see how I feel after closer inspection.
Quote from: VoodooBrew on July 31, 2009, 04:52:40 PM
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on July 31, 2009, 03:22:02 PM
Ghost was good, but I guess I'm not quite as impressed with it as some others seem to be.
I've only given it one listen-through right now, but so far I like the Asheville Ghost better. We'll see how I feel after closer inspection.
Last night's is a good one. It and Asheville are decidedly different creatures.
Quote from: whatapiper on July 31, 2009, 04:16:26 PM
My lady loved it, we were 31st row then after d sky she wanted to get closer, in 5 min she txted me to come 5th row fish side, about 1/3 the way in, amazing spot!...
now my wife wants to see all four nights, I tried, bit she didn't get it before. Alpine she took it all in and last night she bumped us to 5th row,
danced her azz off and woke up this morning wanting more, ladies and genteleman, phish crack
LOVE IT. :beers:
Just finished my first listen.
Set one was pretty average I guess. Stash was dope, though. Like someone else pointed out earlier, I almost forgot that I was listening to "3.0 Phish". :-D
Set two was really good. The Mike's was pretty rough in the ending, as well as the transition into Hydrogen, but other than that it was pretty well played. The Ghost was the definite highlight of the second set for me. It's probably my favorite jam of 3.0 so far. It went real out there, but stayed coherent and focused, and it had a lot of substance to it (rather than just feeling like an empty, emotionless jam). The Wolfman's had a great groove to it as well, and kept the energy going. It definitely was a nice combo. Also, it's nice to see that Billy Breathes got dusted off, too. It was played rather well considering they haven't played it since summer '03. Coil was nice, but they sure do love faking us out with it lately. Bowie was a nice way to cap off a solid set two. Loving Cup is what it is, and it works nice for the encore slot.
Overall, it was pretty damn solid for an opener. I think that says a lot for the second leg of the tour. :wtu:
Quote from: ytowndan on July 31, 2009, 05:19:47 PM
Just finished my first listen.
Set one was pretty average I guess. Stash was dope, though. Like someone else pointed out earlier, I almost forgot that I was listening to "3.0 Phish". :-D
Set two was really good. The Mike's was pretty rough in the ending, as well as the transition into Hydrogen, but other than that it was pretty well played. The Ghost was the definite highlight of the second set for me. It's probably my favorite jam of 3.0 so far. It went real out there, but stayed coherent and focused, and it had a lot of substance to it (rather than just feeling like an empty, emotionless jam). The Wolfman's had a great groove to it as well, and kept the energy going. It definitely was a nice combo. Also, it's nice to see that Billy Breathes got dusted off, too. It was played rather well considering they haven't played it since summer '03. Coil was nice, but they sure do love faking us out with it lately. Bowie was a nice way to cap off a solid set two. Loving Cup is what it is, and it works nice for the encore slot.
Overall, it was pretty damn solid for an opener. I think that says a lot for the second leg of the tour. :wtu:
Zactly
I believe the jam/tease in wolfman's incorporates Louie Louie chords: I IV iv IV.
Quote from: ytowndan on July 31, 2009, 05:19:47 PM
Overall, it was pretty damn solid for an opener. I think that says a lot for the second leg of the tour. :wtu:
Agreed! :banana:
still in the middle of my first listen - went straight for 2nd set...agree w/ RJ - RR and Asheville ghosts are completely different but prefer RR....nice transition into wolfman's
just made it through the first set
wow!
good stuff imo, lots of energy coming from trey especially
even horn and horse>silent have an extra oomph
and the possum ripped
on to set II :-)
Listening to Poor Heart reminds me of the tightness of '93 phish (trey specifically)...seriously
Oh and Stash was phenomenal!
the energy was amazing, you could tell that everyone had been waiting for these shows. I HEARD about only two tix sold, both for $150, the going rate I guess. Ocelot was fun, everyone was really groovin to this one and the wedge! Everyone was stoked. The vibe was amazing, most rows were two deep and no one cared, not even those who tarped. Tonight I'm sure will really open things up, hopefully they continue to build this tour
while i'm downloading, can people give a DESCRIPTION of what the songs were like? I'm talking more of the jam songs... WHAT was the Stash like? WHAT was the Ghost like? Don't tell me it was awesome. Thats subjective. That helps not at all in attempting to discern the objective substance inherent in the song-object being the focus of said inquiry.
kthanxbai
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on July 31, 2009, 11:14:34 PM
while i'm downloading, can people give a DESCRIPTION of what the songs were like? I'm talking more of the jam songs... WHAT was the Stash like? WHAT was the Ghost like? Don't tell me it was awesome. Thats subjective. That helps not at all in attempting to discern the objective substance inherent in the song-object being the focus of said inquiry.
kthanxbai
uhhhh, theres another show going on now. your dl will prolly be done by then.
yeah I donno, my DL is going mad slow right now; my g/f doesn't have the greatest internet but whatever.
30July09 - Morrison, CO
Source: Schoeps mk22> KCY> Schoeps VMS02IB> Apogee Mini-Me> SD 722 (@24bit/96kHz)
Location: Split 10', FOH Rail, Pointed at outside of stacks, 5-1/2' Stands
Transfer: SD 722> Samplitude SE 9.1.1(resample/dither)> CDWave> flac(16/44.1)
Taped, Transferred & Seeded by: taylorc (07/31/2009)
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Divided Sky - a few freaks called this one, cheers to them!, right off the back recording is in the serious sub-par/mediocre range, at one point all of Morrison was under water so its cool to hear Phish bust out this nice, high energy aquatic masterpiece, drop out in house sound?, in terms of execution its great that they've regained their earlier years consistency, I wonder if Trey still has that transcendent moment during the silent piece?, beautiful music, Mike sticking out, nice Fish on the mini-toms and rolls, Page reverberating slightly, jammy outro section, tight ending, nice sustain by Trey, Trey carrying last note like he's carrying a flag in the wind, good version/opener.
Ocelot - "brahcelot...", as a lover of cats I really appreciate this tune, this reminds me more of a new Twist then anything, this jam can easily mutate quickly, stays w/ in the boundaries unfortunately, Page addding Clav while Trey screams/cries in desperation, again Page adding nicely in outro chorus.
The Wedge - this is what I called for the opener so #3 isn't too shabby, decent version.
Poor Heart - Phishgrass.
Moma Dance - a fav. sure way to ignite an aud., more subtlties esp. from Page and Fish, Page raging hard underneath, really good Trey, laying out some nice ideas, solid Trey thoughout, excellent version!
Horn - I used to play this tune back in the day, preety easy to learn and sing, total dropout around???, "...listen for my horn", classic Phish, nice.
Stash - jam opens near 4:58, "maybe so, maybe not", nice Mike and Fish, Trey being more patient, Page as well, active communication, again Mike and Fish kickoff into this little tangent, Trey lightly adding nice lines, Page somewhat quiet in this mix which btw has improved from the opening moments, Trey into his first whale call around 8:56, jam morphs, down shifts into this cool other jam, definitely not part of the Stash/Monk progression, type II here since the mutation, major sound w/ uplifting/optimistic vibe, jam continues into 13:00, Fish pushing for change back, Page responding, Trey lets the tension build more, still swimming in major where the others are either in Stash or what he's doing, unrelenting Trey still staying maj, finally morphs back near 15:00, solid 10 minute + improvisation, maybe so, maybe not? definitely so this time.
Horse -
Silent - a throwdown from '93.
Possum - does have a somewhat western vibe esp. w/ Gordo adding his country flair, very high in the rotation, as much as these guys play this they should be all over it, solid set closer.
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Mike's - jam kicks in at 2:55, nice chunky/funky Trey, nice start, Mike adding '94 esque lines, raw sounding Trey in his solo, Trey w/ a nice chordal wash effect, jam moves foward nicely, nice version, old school ending into
I am Hydrogen - nice version into
Weekapaug - Mike becoming ever more the virtuoso, everything played this far has been very clean both in execution and communication, this jam included, decent overall.
Ghost - inspired Trey vocal, nice clarity on recording after a rough start, nice jam from the outset, trippy Page, Mike hammering down, subtle Trey, liquid Mike lines, Fish dropping it down around 5:20, steady pace, Mike linking, Trey and Page jump on board, jam begins to lift off, Page leading out front, Trey begins mining for ideas, communicates nicely w/ Mike, jam stays preety sweet, nice subtle nuances by everyone and the fact that they're communicating and playing w/ each other, very good sounding improvisation, jam mellows down, Mike and Fish still progressing underneath, rising tempo, jam morphs, Trey singing high little lines, video game Trey, jam still moving along, slightly spacey/wandering/lost, Mike and Fish again pick up the pieces, out of this another theme emerges, its interesting in that 3 times so far it sounded as though Trey was kind of dissolving and Mike and Fish were able to propel the jam upward, nice funk chordal jam towards end, solid jam ensues, tease?, interesting version.
Wolfman's - loose jam, funky Page/Trey, Mike and Fish laying down a boppy/funk foundation, nothing experimental or exploratory but solid.
(Piper tease by Trey) before
Limb - nice resonation w/ bass and drums, tight version
Billy Breathes - great lullaby, interesting vocal challenge for Trey, nice reprive.
Coil - sets up the next # nicely,
Bowie - subtle Page circling high above, Mike and Fish again showing why they are the MVP's of the night, Mike and Fish leading the jam, jam morphs slightly, Trey not hooking up but as soon as the jam shows signs of Bowie proper he's there, interesting little jam, experimentation continues, Trey descending w/ a chordal run before seguing back into leads, path being blazed towards outro, solid version
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Loving Cup - love it in the encore slot, ripping version.
Conclusion: preety solid tour opener, for highlights I like the Moma, Stash, Ghost and Bowie. Stash having that cool modulation, definitely unique. Ghost started out very strong, meandered at times but was kept active by Mike and Fish w/ solid ending. Good to see some risk taking w/ success esp. for the tour opener. Another important aspect of what I heard was the subtle nuances each member brings, nice metamorphosis over the years. I would offer a solid B+/A- rating. As for the recording very rough start but caught up nice enough.
ps. The Mike's was preety good imo as well.
there's a fix for that drop out in horn
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=527160
That, my friends, is what you call A REVIEW.
Masteful work. Thank you so much. THAT is what I always look for. I LOVE reading that kind of shit. Thank you.
Edit: still DLing, but did Coil segue into Bowie? I ALWAYS love the beginning of Coil jams, because its completely Type II in a sense, because there is NO theme or whatever that they're supposed to follow. I actually really really love the Coil from Hampton because of this; its so fresh, so jovial and bouyant (how the fuck do you spell that?).
eeek... Trey messes up the beginning to Divided Sky. and its not a physical fuck up where he missed the fret or something; he begins playing the next chord too soon. hmm.
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on July 31, 2009, 11:14:34 PM
while i'm downloading, can people give a DESCRIPTION of what the songs were like? I'm talking more of the jam songs... WHAT was the Stash like? WHAT was the Ghost like? Don't tell me it was awesome. Thats subjective. That helps not at all in attempting to discern the objective substance inherent in the song-object being the focus of said inquiry.
kthanxbai
Kind of like bags of sand
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on July 31, 2009, 11:52:29 PM
That, my friends, is what you call A REVIEW.
Masteful work. Thank you so much. THAT is what I always look for. I LOVE reading that kind of shit. Thank you.
Edit: still DLing, but did Coil segue into Bowie? I ALWAYS love the beginning of Coil jams, because its completely Type II in a sense, because there is NO theme or whatever that they're supposed to follow. I actually really really love the Coil from Hampton because of this; its so fresh, so jovial and bouyant (how the fuck do you spell that?).
Just thought I should mention that I was able to get my right hand to move in perfect time with the Coil beat. There was a blue light shining on it at the time so it was especially illuminated. Someone next to me even commented that it was cool and gave me a pat on the back!
Quote from: sprobeck on August 01, 2009, 01:24:32 AM
Just thought I should mention that I was able to get my right hand to move in perfect time with the Coil beat. There was a blue light shining on it at the time so it was especially illuminated. Someone next to me even commented that it was cool and gave me a pat on the back!
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I'm moving my right hand in perfect time with my girlfriend's bedroom fan's swivel. Do I get a sticker?
wowza at the wolfman :-o
Highlights for me were obviously Stash and Ghost, though I'm not as big of a fan as most seem to be. Stash was atypical, evolving into a tight, spacey, whale-calling jam with an almost delicate interplay. It was nothing like the drum-driven build up that is the hallmark of Stash. But I still feel like it was a little stale at times.
I loved this Ghost because it strayed from the dark intensity and shifted to a lighter touch with beautifully placed notes. I love Mike's bass effects starting at 9:15 while Page throws down chords. The last two minutes, for me, were a highlight of this version.
Still, I don't place any of these versions among the top 10 or even 15.
One thing I've really noticed this tour is Trey's voice. He sounds very sincere and humble. I'm really digging it.
I was really glad to hear Ocelot. There are so many directions they can take it.
Overall it was a good show, but they aren't THERE yet.
this stash is gettin close to where i think they should be. Just gets me antsy for the chicago show...now on to set two.
I like this laid back Possum.
The Stash gets out there. Not monumental territory but quality jamming. It's a sign of a beautiful future.
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on August 01, 2009, 01:55:45 AM
Quote from: sprobeck on August 01, 2009, 01:24:32 AM
Just thought I should mention that I was able to get my right hand to move in perfect time with the Coil beat. There was a blue light shining on it at the time so it was especially illuminated. Someone next to me even commented that it was cool and gave me a pat on the back!
...
I'm moving my right hand in perfect time with my girlfriend's bedroom fan's swivel. Do I get a sticker?
hahaha
I give this show a C.
In accordance with my new no-hate resolution, a couple positive comments:
Nice to finally hear them let Ghost out to play.
Nice to finally hear Trey leaving room between the notes in Wolfman's in order to deepen and sustain the Phunk.
Nice tempo change in Possum, especially needed when other jams in a set have the same tempo and peak pattern
Nice that Johnny B. Fishman sat down for some serious practice. Although still far from the rock he once was, he has fixed some of the grave errors that plagued the first half of tour.
i agree with your fishman point. i noticed that secondly to how much more i can hear mike. he has done some homework since leg uno.
Quote from: Bobafett on August 02, 2009, 01:32:39 AM
i agree with your fishman point. i noticed that secondly to how much more i can hear mike. he has done some homework since leg uno.
Mike didn't have homework to do. The soundguy and LP d00ds did.
Quote from: rowjimmy on August 02, 2009, 07:51:56 PM
Quote from: Bobafett on August 02, 2009, 01:32:39 AM
i agree with your fishman point. i noticed that secondly to how much more i can hear mike. he has done some homework since leg uno.
Mike didn't have homework to do. The soundguy and LP d00ds did.
:-D
Mike has been solid for a loong time.
you guys are right...i used poor gramatical structure in my post. i noticed Fishman has done his homework secondly to how much more prominent mike is in the mix of LPs that i have heard of the second leg of the first tour back since Coventry. sorry for my f' up. :-P
Quote from: Bobafett on August 02, 2009, 11:13:22 PM
you guys are right...i used poor gramatical structure in my post. i noticed Fishman has done his homework secondly to how much more prominent mike is in the mix of LPs that i have heard of the second leg of the first tour back since Coventry. sorry for my f' up. :-P
While Mike was not the one I was criticizing from the first leg, I do however think he has stepped it up another notch eg. listen to the Chalk Dust from the second night, he's slapping it all over the place. :rockout:
Mike was really on fire last night. He had several killer moments. I could feel his bass big time!
just got home.
holy crap.
what a run!
red rocks is beyond stunning. anyone who hasn't been should make every effort in the future. just beautiful.
interesting to see many ticketless folks climbing up the hillside behind the amphitheatre to hear the show. not sure if they could actually see the stage from their angle, i'm guessing no, but i bet the sound was passable.
as a whole i thought this run completely blew the first half of the tour out of the water.
started off a touch rough on divided sky, but trey pulled it together. it was raining a bunch in the afternoon, but by showtime the sky was streaked with clouds and no rain. we knew sky would open the show. ocelot and moma were hot. loved the stash. overall felt to me like they were finding their way into the run.
i wasn't thrilled with the mike's > H > weeka, i still wish they'd relax into these songs more instead of whipping through them so quickly. nevertheless, wasn't bad. ghost though billy breathes was amazing. my favorite chunk of the show by far. coil was solid and bowie was obviously iffy in the composed section. i felt sure page was going to into loving cup after coil, and reading my mind, they were kind enough to play it as the encore. thanks, phish!
Just wanted to throw my $.02 in on the Ghost. I listened to Asheville and RR ghosts back to back on my drive home from work, and I thought the RR version seemed much more cohesive throughout. Early in the jam especially, Mike was dropping a nice baseline, Page chording along, with Trey mixing in a few softer notes. Haven't heard interplay like this Ghost much at all in 3.0. I think the peak of the Asheville Ghost may be slightly better, but overall I prefer the 7/30 version for overall funkiness and band interplay.
I think Ocelot would've gone off the deep end if Trey hadn't started singing the closing lines just when Page was starting to bust out the funk. Can't wait for that next step to be taken.
Edit: I enjoyed the space of this Stash a lot more on my second (closer) listen. Very atypical, and it's a great sign for the rest of the tour that they're experimenting some new(er) territory on night 1 of the tour.
I don't know. I keep hearing "epic" thrown around and I couldn't disagree more. By 3.0 standards, this run was solid, only because of the second night. I heard nothing on the first or third night that seemed in any way "epic." Is Phish playing better? Yes. Do they have a long way to go? Absolutely. And soon Mike will be going on tour on his own, leaving the band without more practice.
I understand how difficult it is to come together after a few years with a lot of shows and so many songs, but this is not yet the Phish I'm used to hearing. But I see more cohesion, and I'm feeling really good about that. The second night Tweezer, for me, was the best moment of 3.0. We have a long run to go, and I'm hoping for the best. While this was Red Rocks, it was Phish still trying to reinvent themselves, and it's at an infantile stage.
I remember a friend of mine saying the same thing about the band trying to get back to the way they were--this was in 2003. Well they sure are a hell of a lot better than they were in 2003!!
finally listened to this first set today.
personally i thought the % SKY was HOT. i musta missed any flubs, b/c i was really surprised how perfect it was.
ocelot= bad placement, but it was passable.
the next four songs= tight, but really no flow going on here... i attribute this to it being the first set of the run/tour.
then STASH. wow, not bad stuff in here, FIshman stepping up and changing the cadence really pushed this jam much further than expected, though it almost seemed as if Trey wasnt willing to let go 100%... noodling & hiding behind the whale calls a bit... then oddly enough you can hear trey decide to put it in overdrive after the jam as the refrain kicks in. so it finishes up like a lion, but sorta pussy footed through the real possibility of the type 2 stuff.
anyway, i'd already listened to the Mikesgroove/ghostMan'sBro, so i really only have the Coil and BOwie to go.
i think this show isnt that bad at all though. overall a VERY tightly played first set at least. and from what i can recall the mikes groove as well. with Stash and ghost giving you above par for '09 big jams in each set. basically they did what was necessary to establish what they could do for the rest of the run and the tour as well.
I dunno, '03 was decently hot.
I saw Greensboro, Charlotte and Atlanta, and all three were PRIMO.
I went to the two Alpine's and a Deer Creek. The second sets at Alpine were pretty disappointing. I remember a few of the tunes they played at D.C--Possum and apparently I saw a great SOAM. Those shows just weren't nearly as good as what I've been a part of this year.
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 11, 2009, 06:18:58 PM
I dunno, '03 was decently hot.
I saw Greensboro, Charlotte and Atlanta, and all three were PRIMO.
I give your taste in shows a C-
mmmm Ghost > Wolfman's
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on August 11, 2009, 06:18:58 PM
I dunno, '03 was decently hot.
I saw Greensboro, Charlotte and Atlanta, and all three were PRIMO.
I wasn't exactly sober at that show, but I had a rip-effin-roarin good time. My lady's first show taboot, so that was extra fun. Pretty hot YEM if I recall. Bummer of a Velvet Sea encore though.
Anybody figure out what the soundcheck Mike tune was?
Quote from: mattstick on August 13, 2009, 09:14:26 AM
mmmm Ghost > Wolfman's
I've listened to this combo a few times in the past two days. The Ghost is pretty damn good, I love the Windy City jam near the end, almost two weeks before the song debuted. Then the Wolfman's has Trey kinda toying with the 'Superfly' lick he was playing back in '97.
Windy City jam near the end of Ghost:
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