Since discovering (a little late), all of the material from the shows played in Miami for the New Year's run this year, i have come to the conclusion that a new era of Phish has begun.
FOr me, and i don't hope in any way to convince others of this, Phish 3.0 started with the COmeback shows at Hampton in the SPring of 2009, and thankfully ended with the last show of FAll tour in charlottesville.
Now, that being said, i wouldnt trade anything for the awesome time i had at the REd rocks shows this summer, or especially the first shows back at Hampton. There is no way to replace the feeling we all had when the Curtain was lifted and the opening notes of FLuffhead were heard.
BUT. seeing Phish live for me has always been only one part of the experience. Honestly, it has always been the most important of the entire package for me, but listening to their live recordings definitely also holds a great importance at the same time.
This being said, i believe i can fit the moments of Phish "3.0" that i truely Love, or perhaps even just like, or can happily tolerate, or at least keep my interest, on one 80 minute disc.
NOw, after the Last 4 shows of the year, a wonderful thign has happened!
I actually listened to these shows, and wanted to instantly hear them again!
and i'm pretty damn sure that i'll be listening to them many more times in the future!
gone was the constant annoying felling that criticism was neccesary, and i could actually sit back and enjoy every moment of discovering new musical beauty!
without a doubt, the last threer shows of the year are my top three favorite shows of the year, and i PRAY, i Pray to god that this wasnt some sort of fluke, but instead the dawn of:
PHISH 4.0 FTW!!
:phish:
-slim.
I'm hip to that.
:beers:
Quote from: VA slim on January 22, 2010, 06:57:37 PM
NOw, after the Last 4 shows of the year, a wonderful thign has happened!
I actually listened to these shows, and wanted to instantly hear them again!
and i'm pretty damn sure that i'll be listening to them many more times in the future!
Those shows were full of Kick-Ass!! :wtu:
I agree with that, summer cant come fast enough.
They have shown improvement for sure over the past year but I feel a significant jump in performance and improvisation needs to be made to make any claims this band is that much better after only 50+ shows. Give em another 100 and then maybe...
Sweet blog, very sweet blog. I also took note of the bombness of the shows. I mentioned to my brother that these Miami shows were the first 3.0 shows that I listened to for the great tunes, and not just because they were current.
Quote from: thatfargone on January 22, 2010, 08:47:32 PM
They have shown improvement for sure over the past year but I feel a significant jump in performance and improvisation needs to be made to make any claims this band is that much better after only 50+ shows. Give em another 100 and then maybe...
that much better in reference to what? 2.0? 1.0?
all i'm stating is that imo the Miami run of shows are a completely different breed than the rest of the year.
of course there was progression over the entire year. And to be fair maybe there are 2 80 minute discs worth of music i'd listen to again before miami.
BUt. when i listen to the Miami shows over the last week you could find me Dancing and singing around my house with my headphones on. constantly, smiling and Rawking out!
i can't say i've been able to do this previously with much of anything from 3.0.
Instead i've listened to shows once, mayube twice for the better ones, and most of the time you'd catch me with a serious look in my eyes, bracing myself for the inevitable cringe worthy moments.
Miami is a different beast imo, full of pure Buttah. the stuff that i know is IT. mad flow, no hesitation, and most importantly- no crap! and in fact i also believe that there is a good taste of the future in these shows. i've caught some great innovative gems in the direction that the boys took the songs and jams.
GGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
::insert more Gumbo noises of your choice here::
-slim 2010.
There isn't anything happening in the Miami shows (bust outs aside) that didn't happen in the Fall Tour.
I still feel that Red Rocks & The Gorge were the most creative shows of the year, and the big "Rock Peak" jams in Miami are all very reminiscent of Fall Tour.
Quote from: mattstick on January 23, 2010, 06:53:09 AM
There isn't anything happening in the Miami shows (bust outs aside) that didn't happen in the Fall Tour.
I still feel that Red Rocks & The Gorge were the most creative shows of the year, and the big "Rock Peak" jams in Miami are all very reminiscent of Fall Tour.
Agreed. I didn't think the NYE shows were all that spectacular as a whole. There were moments I really enjoyed, much as I did for Fall Tour.
But 4.0? Maybe we should save that for the next hiatus. They evolved in a way from the early '90s to the late '90s that took similar roads. It wasn't the same, but the process has similarities. The fall and NYE runs were just more steps in a positive direction.
But it's all 3.0 still.
I'm gonna have to agree with Slim on this one. They are the only shows I've kept (in their entirety) from 09 other than a few highlight songs from Summer and Fall tour. I can see myself listening to these shows for years to come.
I just don't see Miami being all that spectacular. Not to belittle your breakthrough Slim, but I just don't see any major improvement since Fall with these shows and Fall wasn't much better than the 2nd Leg of Summer. Gorge1 is IMO at least as good as any Miami show. Also, were any jams in 2009 really that much better than the Hampton DwD? I don't think so.
Miami was more of exactly what I felt they were bringing all year. Forced segues, jams that collapse into ambiance, jams cut off, sparing use of type II jamming, and mostly straight rock. A focus on songs not performance. Miami if anything had less of these issues due simply to shows played and time on the road, not a significant change in anything.
This band will stay in "2 step forwards 2 steps" back pattern from here on out. Fall did not live up to expectations that were made after Summer. It didn't. I am not a hater, but without consistent practice and rehearsals, each tour will start shakey and gain ground over the weeks, the longer the breaks between tours, the slower it will take them to get back to where they left off the prior tour. Kids, family, other bands, age, other interests...these are all factors of 3.0 that were not all there in years prior. I honestly feel after a hiatus, a break up and everything that has come to pass...3.0 is our final version of Phish. I may entertain discussion of a 3.1 at some point...but we're knee deep in 3.0 at the moment if you ask me.
Quote from: Mr Minor on January 23, 2010, 08:25:10 AM
But it's all 3.0 still.
Quote from: thatfargone on January 23, 2010, 09:08:13 AM
I honestly feel after a hiatus, a break up and everything that has come to pass...3.0 is our final version of Phish. I may entertain discussion of a 3.1 at some point...but we're knee deep in 3.0 at the moment if you ask me.
agreed, we'll be in 3.0 for quite some time. A 3.1 might evolve but that's if the band takes their improv. to the next level on a more consistent basis.
lmao @ 4.0
MAYBE 3.01.....MAYBE
Quote from: thatfargone on January 23, 2010, 09:08:13 AM
I just don't see Miami being all that spectacular. Not to belittle your breakthrough Slim, but I just don't see any major improvement since Fall with these shows and Fall wasn't much better than the 2nd Leg of Summer. Gorge1 is IMO at least as good as any Miami show. Also, were any jams in 2009 really that much better than the Hampton DwD? I don't think so.
Miami was more of exactly what I felt they were bringing all year. Forced segues, jams that collapse into ambiance, jams cut off, sparing use of type II jamming, and mostly straight rock. A focus on songs not performance. Miami if anything had less of these issues due simply to shows played and time on the road, not a significant change in anything.
This band will stay in "2 step forwards 2 steps" back pattern from here on out. Fall did not live up to expectations that were made after Summer. It didn't. I am not a hater, but without consistent practice and rehearsals, each tour will start shakey and gain ground over the weeks, the longer the breaks between tours, the slower it will take them to get back to where they left off the prior tour. Kids, family, other bands, age, other interests...these are all factors of 3.0 that were not all there in years prior. I honestly feel after a hiatus, a break up and everything that has come to pass...3.0 is our final version of Phish. I may entertain discussion of a 3.1 at some point...but we're knee deep in 3.0 at the moment if you ask me.
I think this sums it up exactly how I feel. I know I will probably get flamed for this because people are usually on ck's nuts. But I honestly think part of the reason why the jams don't go anywhere is because of him. He doesn't give any sort of ambient type setting anymore with the lights that can even get the band into those dark spacey places. The second the band even remotely peeks he throws on the strobe lights (for lack of a better word as I am not sure what exactly it is, just it seems like a strobe). It almost feels like drive by music, like song, mini peak, strobe effect, end song. Plus how many times can you throw on the flood lights in a show? I mean come on. I saw a handful of shows last year and I just felt that everytime the lights were so over the top, it almost made it cheesy.
i feel ya slim :crazy:
jerry's dead, phish sucks, get a job
Quote from: Marmar on January 23, 2010, 10:16:55 AM
lmao @ 4.0
MAYBE 3.01.....MAYBE
thanks for sharing.
Quote from: mattstick on January 23, 2010, 06:53:09 AM
There isn't anything happening in the Miami shows (bust outs aside) that didn't happen in the Fall Tour.
I still feel that Red Rocks & The Gorge were the most creative shows of the year, and the big "Rock Peak" jams in Miami are all very reminiscent of Fall Tour.
unfortunately neither of our opinions is fact, even though you word yours as such.
& i respectfully wholeheartedly disagree. in fact the bustouts are the absolute last thign i consider to be important to this run. for me its the entire package. it just sounds correct to my ears, or normal, whereas the rest of the year always seemed as if somethign wasnt quite right. clear cut BLack and white
imo., but to each his own.
i'm just glad i dont have to go on dreading the future of wishing i could like phish again. wheew!
i guess its just like the DOnna discussion hate from the other thread. i'm not going to lose sleep because other people lose enjoyment of the GDead with donna, whereas i couldnt be happier with everythign she does. i'm not here to change anyones mind, i just wanted to share how happy i am...well i was happier before people decided to laugh at me and get all defensive, but hey i guess if that makes them feel better about themselves than i shouldnt give a shit. w00t!
well, here's to hopefully getting to experience what i consider to finally be the real deal in 2010 with Some of ya'll.
stay happy slim.
it's nice to hear that phish is doing that for you again.
with so much talk about what they're not doing, and how it's not good yet, it's good to hear when people are really feeling it again.
that's what they're there for.
Quote from: VA slim on January 23, 2010, 04:11:26 PM
unfortunately neither of our opinions is fact, even though you word yours as such.
Should I have added an IMO? I should always preface notions that are clearly opinions with some sort of disclaimer?
My opinion is that you're in a place where you're choosing to enjoy the Miami shows, because musically there isn't anything that is really "next level" on the heels of the summer and fall. Certainly nothing worthy of calling it 4.0.
Quote from: VA slim on January 23, 2010, 04:11:26 PM
i'm not here to change anyones mind, i just wanted to share how happy i am...well i was happier before people decided to laugh at me and get all defensive, but hey i guess if that makes them feel better about themselves than i shouldnt give a shit. w00t!
You started a thread, which kind of makes it up for discussion. I also don't really see anybody laughing at you or getting defensive - we're just doing what we do, talking about Phish.
Quote from: VA slim on January 23, 2010, 04:11:26 PM
i'm not here to change anyones mind, i just wanted to share how happy i am...well i was happier before people decided to laugh at me and get all defensive, but hey i guess if that makes them feel better about themselves than i shouldnt give a shit. w00t!
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on January 15, 2010, 07:04:31 PM
i would like to nominate this for most paranoia fueled post of 2010.
The funniest part of this entire thread is that the people that are disagreeing with my POV (-which is of course is fine with me) are actually taking me seriously at labeling something as PHISH 4.0.
wow, i mean, i just posted my stream of conscious of how i felt about the where phish was at, and all of a sudden i'm being cornered into defending a simple label that i made as a complete joke.
HOly serious Phishheads batman!
i agree matt, that by posting a topic that it is meant to be open for discussion, and NO i dont expect you to preface everything with an "IMO", but IMO i did feel that your initial reply was basically worded in a manner meant to undermine my general excitement, and degrade my opinion. But maybe i'm just reading into it the wrong way, and I Have ZERO beef with you matt seriously, i apologize if i quipped in your direction.
I do think its just a little unfortunate that many folks-- not YOu MATT-- on the Paug these days, not just in this thread, take such an offensive tone when trying to oppose someone's posts, that might just be general excitement, off hand comments, or a laid back perspective of just chatting.
ITs not always about someone having the answers or knowing more than someone else or their 'grade' of "C+" is sooooooo fucking relevant.
what ever happened to just shooting the shit about something that we both enjoy.
I know a few folks remember when i jumped in a few of the setlists threads this year and people were outright RUde when i would just attempt to chat about the show, because they were SO involved and SO on top of what was going on, and they were actually just completely Whoring the thread at the time.......
and while i'm ranting, i might as well address the other thing that matt brought up thzt noone is "laughing" at me, yet in the post right b4 this MBwrker thinks its obviously funny to label me as paranoid. personally i dont find that funny, but no skin off my back, whatever floats your boat...
anyway, hope that clears thigns up. :-D
BTW., these shows are still the best shows of 09, and i'm super stoked that i could free up some serious GB by deleting all the other crap from the rest of the year. so, :wtu:
When were you replaced by a cylon?
Quote from: Hicks on January 23, 2010, 08:25:02 PM
When were you replaced by a cylon?
right before io locked this thread in the near future.
BTW., i watched some of that Caprica show last night.... talk about weird.
Quote from: VA slim on January 23, 2010, 08:23:05 PM
and while i'm ranting, i might as well address the other thing that matt brought up thzt noone is "laughing" at me, yet in the post right b4 this MBwrker thinks its obviously funny to label me as paranoid. personally i dont find that funny, but no skin off my back, whatever floats your boat...
just f'in around man. i dont think anyone is laughing at you. i was was just trying to laugh with you.
Quote from: mirthbeatenworker on January 23, 2010, 08:35:25 PM
Quote from: VA slim on January 23, 2010, 08:23:05 PM
and while i'm ranting, i might as well address the other thing that matt brought up thzt noone is "laughing" at me, yet in the post right b4 this MBwrker thinks its obviously funny to label me as paranoid. personally i dont find that funny, but no skin off my back, whatever floats your boat...
just f'in around man. i dont think anyone is laughing at you. i was was just trying to laugh with you.
word. TY.
I'm laughing near you. In the sense that TextsFromLastNight.com and ShitMyDadSays.com are right next to the paug in my bookmarks. :beerbang:
In my opinion -- :-D -- I was about ready to label Red Rocks as Phish 3.2 or 3.5 or some such arbitrary designation. And then my excitement was kind of tempered by a lack of continued, consistent development in the same vein over the rest of summer II and onward. Certain moments excepted. But it's no biggie -- I'm just happy to have new shows and new music to listen to, and going to shows remains about as much fun as you can have, and I'm looking forward to the Trey show next month not just for its own merits but also to hear how he's playing these days and listen for any possible clues about how Phish (1/4th of them anyway) might sound when we next hear from them.
Quote from: VA slim on January 23, 2010, 08:23:05 PM
The funniest part of this entire thread is that the people that are disagreeing with my POV (-which is of course is fine with me) are actually taking me seriously at labeling something as PHISH 4.0.
wow, i mean, i just posted my stream of conscious of how i felt about the where phish was at, and all of a sudden i'm being cornered into defending a simple label that i made as a complete joke.
HOly serious Phishheads batman!
Dude, I am glad you like the NYE run. I thought there were some great moments in it as well, just like many moments throughout the fall.
I am glad you are enjoying where the :phish: is at right now, but disagreeing with the 4.0 comment isn't something to be upset about. Simply posting, IMO, is showing your opinion and offering it up for people to discuss, dissect, and comment on. Bottom line is we all love Phish.
The fact that the 1.0/2.0/3.0 nomenclature was even used in the first place is pretty silly, but it's an interesting way to separate the different levels of the bands tenure. I disagreed because I didn't think they turned a corner as a whole with the NYE run, but they have definitely made some improvements with each of the three "tours" this year (four if you count Hampton as it's own tour).
Personally, I am uber-excited they got back together in the first place. The fact that they can do what they do blows my mind. As VOODOO said, I am happy to have new shows and new music to listen. I can't wait for summer tour and what it brings.
there's nothing there for me in the NYE run to somehow completely separate it from the other shows and label it as 4.0..or 3.1..as was w/ plenty of other shows NYE had it's moments - been listening to the Ghost a lot lately :banana:
..sure there were bustouts but shit look at the bustouts at cccc alone..for me the NYE was pretty much on par w/ 3.0 - nothing more, nothing less...I truly hope Trey's Feb tour injects a little somethin somethin into him..with that said, I'm super stoked that they are back together and can't wait til summer tour
Quote from: mehead on January 24, 2010, 02:46:01 PM
..I truly hope Trey's Feb tour injects a little somethin somethin into him..
uhhh, be careful what you wish for. (..or how you word your posts!)
Quote from: mehead on January 24, 2010, 02:46:01 PM
there's nothing there for me in the NYE run to somehow completely separate it from the other shows and label it as 4.0..or 3.1..as was w/ plenty of other shows NYE had it's moments - been listening to the Ghost a lot lately :banana:
..sure there were bustouts but shit look at the bustouts at cccc alone..for me the NYE was pretty much on par w/ 3.0 - nothing more, nothing less...I truly hope Trey's Feb tour injects a little somethin somethin into him..with that said, I'm super stoked that they are back together and can't wait til summer tour
cool.
the only thing that consoles me about the fact that it seems a lot of people dont hear what i hear in these shows, is the fact that many other people DO agree with me 100%. not being alone is a start, but its FUcking really Odd when i consider pretty much 90-100% of the songs played in miami to be the best versions of the year by Miles and miles. like not even in the same ball park. oh well.
Quote from: VA slim on January 24, 2010, 07:05:16 PM
Quote from: mehead on January 24, 2010, 02:46:01 PM
there's nothing there for me in the NYE run to somehow completely separate it from the other shows and label it as 4.0..or 3.1..as was w/ plenty of other shows NYE had it's moments - been listening to the Ghost a lot lately :banana:
..sure there were bustouts but shit look at the bustouts at cccc alone..for me the NYE was pretty much on par w/ 3.0 - nothing more, nothing less...I truly hope Trey's Feb tour injects a little somethin somethin into him..with that said, I'm super stoked that they are back together and can't wait til summer tour
cool.
the only thing that consoles me about the fact that it seems a lot of people dont hear what i hear in these shows, is the fact that many other people DO agree with me 100%. not being alone is a start, but its FUcking really Odd when i consider pretty much 90-100% of the songs played in miami to be the best versions of the year by Miles and miles. like not even in the same ball park. oh well.
why do you need consoling about this issue? it's all opinions brah..I don't think you are wrong and I am right...I don't think the run was shit by any means - I just don't walk away thinking "wow, they've def. turned the corner and now we're on to 4.0"
Quote from: redrum on January 24, 2010, 03:05:43 PM
Quote from: mehead on January 24, 2010, 02:46:01 PM
..I truly hope Trey's Feb tour injects a little somethin somethin into him..
uhhh, be careful what you wish for. (..or how you word your posts!)
agreed..I tend to do that every now and then 8-)
This thread is too melodramatic.
Quote from: mattstick on January 25, 2010, 10:18:21 AM
This thread is too melodramatic.
yup...peeps need to stop getting defensive if someone doesn't agree w/ their opinion.............
still fun though :wink:
Quote from: mattstick on January 25, 2010, 10:18:21 AM
This thread is too melodramatic.
yeah, i apologize for coming off as defensive or whatever when i posted a few times here.
no excuses, its all good. i still think these shows are on a completely different level than the rest of the year. so, thanks to the band from me at least.
i guess there's nothing more to really say about 09 now, i just hope that these shows were a sign that maybe 2010 will put an end to what i consider was a somewhat inconsistently meh year of comeback shows.
carry on, you bitchez. :wink:
-slimmmmm
peoples opinions seem very hard to change around here.
I was entirely optimistic while attending these shows and it paid off
Quote from: mattstick on January 25, 2010, 10:18:21 AM
This thread is too melodramatic.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_XXbvAFkXhdo/SV9nA-xFIfI/AAAAAAAABuw/rug4NVqTDc4/s320/theatre.jpg)
back on topic, I've been listening to my Summer '09 Mix and its preety good, the music that is. After I was thinking about making a 'ween/Fall/NYE compilation to round out the year but the music/jams from the latter half of the year hasn't inspired me as much to want to do it. I might come back and do it anyway for shits and giggles. Specifically I compared versions of Drowned from 19June and 22Nov. and I thought the DC version smoked it hard.
Slim, I think I can see where you're coming from. I haven't super-dissected the whole run yet, but a few things jumped out at me right off the bat.
First off, I had already claimed here that the Jibboo > Wilson > Jibboo > Heavy Things bit was the most important thing they played all year, because it signaled that they were now able to drop into that hole of having a goofy, retardedly absurd of a fun time on stage, and able to also seamlessly meld their spur-of-the-moment whims into the current show being played, AND to make it WORK.
When was the last time that ANY Phish song was broken in half, after '95? Aside from the Moby Dick show, which was a return to that goofball-ness itself...
But aside from that fact, the jamming in Tweezer and GBOTT point to a completely new entity. The jamming is so different from everything theyve done... its all spaced out, and it moves forward, but it doesn't peak like Chalkdust or an Arrival.
I gotta get to class now.... but i'll be back
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on February 01, 2010, 08:26:58 AM
When was the last time that ANY Phish song was broken in half, after '95? Aside from the Moby Dick show, which was a return to that goofball-ness itself...
06-22-2000 Harry > DFB > Hood
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on February 01, 2010, 08:26:58 AM
When was the last time that ANY Phish song was broken in half, after '95? Aside from the Moby Dick show, which was a return to that goofball-ness itself...
Did you
REALLY just ask this? :?
Seriously I'll just start with 2009:
2009.06.12: YEM>Wilson>YEM
12/31/03 Chalkdust > Slave > Chalkdust
08-01-1998 2001 > Magilla > 2001
07-07-2000 Maze > Shafty > Maze
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on February 01, 2010, 08:26:58 AM
When was the last time that ANY Phish song was broken in half, after '95? Aside from the Moby Dick show, which was a return to that goofball-ness itself...
06/25/97 DWD -> piper -> DWD
07/10/97 Ghost -> Take Me to the River -> Ghost
11/23/97 Down with Disease -> Low Rider -> Down with Disease
12/13/97 Weekapaug Groove -> Catapult -> Weekapaug Groove
07/09/98 Scent of a Mule -> Blister in the Sun -> Scent of a Mule
11/27/98 Chalk Dust Torture -> Mirror in the Bathroom -> Chalk Dust Torture -> Dog Log -> Chalk Dust Torture, Weekapaug Groove -> Wipe Out -> Weekapaug Groove, Weekapaug Reprise
07/07/99 My Left Toe -> Wading in the Velvet Sea -> My Left Toe
09/29/99 Mike's Song -> Catapult -> Mike's Song -> Kung -> Mike's Song
06/22/00 Harry Hood -> Dog Faced Boy > Harry Hood
02/16/03 Down with Disease -> Seven Below -> Down with Disease
07/15/03 Mr. Completely -> Low Rider -> Big Black Furry Creature from Mars > Buried Alive > Big Black Furry Creature from Mars > Ha Ha Ha > Big Black Furry Creature from Mars > Mr. Completely > Spread It 'Round, Walls of the Cave, Golgi Apparatus > Slave to the Traffic Light
07/18/03 I Didn't Know > Dust In the Wind > I Didn't Know
08/02/03 Seven Below -> Scents and Subtle Sounds -> Seven Below
12/30/03 L.A. Woman -> Birds of a Feather > L.A. Woman
12/31/03 Chalk Dust Torture -> Slave to the Traffic Light > Chalk Dust Torture
06/25/04 You Enjoy Myself -> Also Sprach Zarathustra -> You Enjoy Myself
08/11/04 Scent of a Mule -> Tears of a Clown -> Scent of a Mule
08/12/04 Maze -> Catapult -> Maze
06/12/09 You Enjoy Myself -> Wilson -> You Enjoy Myself
lolz
Miami 09 was a good New Years run, but not some re-birth of Phish in where they were breaking new ground or doing new things better than they ever have before....
Quote from: mattstick on February 01, 2010, 10:18:09 AM
Miami 09 was a good New Years run, but not some re-birth of Phish in where they were breaking new ground or doing new things better than they ever have before....
Gumbo purple with his prose? NEVER!
What about Wilson and Tube during NYE '03. I'd say they were broken in half...over 2 shows. :lol:
Quote from: sophist on February 01, 2010, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on February 01, 2010, 08:26:58 AM
When was the last time that ANY Phish song was broken in half, after '95? Aside from the Moby Dick show, which was a return to that goofball-ness itself...
02/16/03 Down with Disease -> Seven Below -> Down with Disease
this show also opened up with Bowie -> Catapult -> Bowie
Quote from: susep73 on January 30, 2010, 07:32:38 PM
Specifically I compared versions of Drowned from 19June and 22Nov. and I thought the DC version smoked it hard.
Wait, do you mean this in a good or bad way? :-)
Quote from: sophist on February 01, 2010, 09:36:31 AM
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on February 01, 2010, 08:26:58 AM
When was the last time that ANY Phish song was broken in half, after '95? Aside from the Moby Dick show, which was a return to that goofball-ness itself...
06/25/97 DWD -> piper -> DWD
07/10/97 Ghost -> Take Me to the River -> Ghost
11/23/97 Down with Disease -> Low Rider -> Down with Disease
12/13/97 Weekapaug Groove -> Catapult -> Weekapaug Groove
07/09/98 Scent of a Mule -> Blister in the Sun -> Scent of a Mule
11/27/98 Chalk Dust Torture -> Mirror in the Bathroom -> Chalk Dust Torture -> Dog Log -> Chalk Dust Torture, Weekapaug Groove -> Wipe Out -> Weekapaug Groove, Weekapaug Reprise
07/07/99 My Left Toe -> Wading in the Velvet Sea -> My Left Toe
09/29/99 Mike's Song -> Catapult -> Mike's Song -> Kung -> Mike's Song
06/22/00 Harry Hood -> Dog Faced Boy > Harry Hood
02/16/03 Down with Disease -> Seven Below -> Down with Disease
07/15/03 Mr. Completely -> Low Rider -> Big Black Furry Creature from Mars > Buried Alive > Big Black Furry Creature from Mars > Ha Ha Ha > Big Black Furry Creature from Mars > Mr. Completely > Spread It 'Round, Walls of the Cave, Golgi Apparatus > Slave to the Traffic Light
07/18/03 I Didn't Know > Dust In the Wind > I Didn't Know
08/02/03 Seven Below -> Scents and Subtle Sounds -> Seven Below
12/30/03 L.A. Woman -> Birds of a Feather > L.A. Woman
12/31/03 Chalk Dust Torture -> Slave to the Traffic Light > Chalk Dust Torture
06/25/04 You Enjoy Myself -> Also Sprach Zarathustra -> You Enjoy Myself
08/11/04 Scent of a Mule -> Tears of a Clown -> Scent of a Mule
08/12/04 Maze -> Catapult -> Maze
06/12/09 You Enjoy Myself -> Wilson -> You Enjoy Myself
i knew there was a reason i didnt lock this thread two pages back! :-)
Quote from: VA slim on February 02, 2010, 12:01:34 PM
i knew there was a reason i didnt lock this thread two pages back! :-)
Plus, Superfreakie's back! we gotta know what he thinks about all of this! :crazy:
isn't the whole 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 thing related to hiatus and then breakup, respectively, and not quality of live perfomance? did somebody already say this in this thread?
I'll tell you this, I expected 3.0 to develop into a slower, spacier extension of 2.0, but instead is all about the slawppy rawk. which while cool in itself still feels more transitional then anything.
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on February 02, 2010, 04:27:11 PM
Quote from: VA slim on February 02, 2010, 12:01:34 PM
i knew there was a reason i didnt lock this thread two pages back! :-)
Plus, Superfreakie's back! we gotta know what he thinks about all of this! :crazy:
You're all fucked :wink:
Actually, I haven't taken a concerted listen to the new year's run yet. Probably tomorrow.
Quote from: postjack on February 02, 2010, 04:53:23 PM
isn't the whole 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 thing related to hiatus and then breakup, respectively, and not quality of live perfomance? did somebody already say this in this thread?
I'll tell you this, I expected 3.0 to develop into a slower, spacier extension of 2.0, but instead is all about the slawppy rawk. which while cool in itself still feels more transitional then anything.
:roll: :roll:
let it go bro. it was all a bad joke. that noone got. :shakehead:
Quote from: VA slim on February 03, 2010, 08:10:15 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 02, 2010, 04:53:23 PM
isn't the whole 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 thing related to hiatus and then breakup, respectively, and not quality of live perfomance? did somebody already say this in this thread?
I'll tell you this, I expected 3.0 to develop into a slower, spacier extension of 2.0, but instead is all about the slawppy rawk. which while cool in itself still feels more transitional then anything.
:roll: :roll:
let it go bro. it was all a bad joke. that noone got. :shakehead:
yeah, i don't understand.
Quote from: postjack on February 03, 2010, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: VA slim on February 03, 2010, 08:10:15 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 02, 2010, 04:53:23 PM
isn't the whole 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 thing related to hiatus and then breakup, respectively, and not quality of live perfomance? did somebody already say this in this thread?
I'll tell you this, I expected 3.0 to develop into a slower, spacier extension of 2.0, but instead is all about the slawppy rawk. which while cool in itself still feels more transitional then anything.
:roll: :roll:
let it go bro. it was all a bad joke. that noone got. :shakehead:
yeah, i don't understand.
Start reading here (http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=14612.msg389877#msg389877).
Quote from: sophist on February 03, 2010, 08:20:34 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 03, 2010, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: VA slim on February 03, 2010, 08:10:15 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 02, 2010, 04:53:23 PM
isn't the whole 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 thing related to hiatus and then breakup, respectively, and not quality of live perfomance? did somebody already say this in this thread?
I'll tell you this, I expected 3.0 to develop into a slower, spacier extension of 2.0, but instead is all about the slawppy rawk. which while cool in itself still feels more transitional then anything.
:roll: :roll:
let it go bro. it was all a bad joke. that noone got. :shakehead:
yeah, i don't understand.
Start reading here (http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=14612.msg389877#msg389877).
3.0 sux?
So is anyone still listening to Miami?
I've been rocking Deer Creek & Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 08:55:52 AM
So is anyone still listening to Miami?
I've been rocking Deer Creek & Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.
PNC '00 here.
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 08:55:52 AM
So is anyone still listening to Miami?
I've been rocking Deer Creek & Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.
Recently gave Red Rocks another listen and going to check out the Cincy weekend one more time. And then it's on to the past starting in '93 and working my way forward...
Quote from: postjack on February 03, 2010, 08:45:47 AM
Quote from: sophist on February 03, 2010, 08:20:34 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 03, 2010, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: VA slim on February 03, 2010, 08:10:15 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 02, 2010, 04:53:23 PM
isn't the whole 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 thing related to hiatus and then breakup, respectively, and not quality of live perfomance? did somebody already say this in this thread?
I'll tell you this, I expected 3.0 to develop into a slower, spacier extension of 2.0, but instead is all about the slawppy rawk. which while cool in itself still feels more transitional then anything.
:roll: :roll:
let it go bro. it was all a bad joke. that noone got. :shakehead:
yeah, i don't understand.
Start reading here (http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=14612.msg389877#msg389877).
3.0 sux?
Dude. We have been calling it 3.0 because it is the come back era. Since Hampton there has been an ongoing joke/discussion here about what is next (i.e. like a 3.1 or 3.05, etc), in other words the next evolution of Phish. Slim decided to take that concept and make a joke out of it, thus the "4.0" label. As in Miami was the turning point in their evolution.
It was a joke, and a funny one. Slim, I laughed, and enjoyed it.
It seems like a pretty SER post, I didn't get the "joke" vibe at all.
PNC 00, next vid release?
Quote from: sophist on February 03, 2010, 09:24:48 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 03, 2010, 08:45:47 AM
Quote from: sophist on February 03, 2010, 08:20:34 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 03, 2010, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: VA slim on February 03, 2010, 08:10:15 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 02, 2010, 04:53:23 PM
isn't the whole 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 thing related to hiatus and then breakup, respectively, and not quality of live perfomance? did somebody already say this in this thread?
I'll tell you this, I expected 3.0 to develop into a slower, spacier extension of 2.0, but instead is all about the slawppy rawk. which while cool in itself still feels more transitional then anything.
:roll: :roll:
let it go bro. it was all a bad joke. that noone got. :shakehead:
yeah, i don't understand.
Start reading here (http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=14612.msg389877#msg389877).
3.0 sux?
Dude. We have been calling it 3.0 because it is the come back era. Since Hampton there has been an ongoing joke/discussion here about what is next (i.e. like a 3.1 or 3.05, etc), in other words the next evolution of Phish. Slim decided to take that concept and make a joke out of it, thus the "4.0" label. As in Miami was the turning point in their evolution.
It was a joke, and a funny one. Slim, I laughed, and enjoyed it.
sometimes the only snack that will really scratch the snack itch is shredded cheese on tortilla chips thrown in the microwave and heated up and eaten. it is easy to prepare this healthy snack. sharing is NOT recommended.
WHAT YOU'LL NEED:
1) shredded cheese, preferably finely shredded, cheap from wal-mart. get the cheese thats like fiesta cheese or mexicali cheese, it feels more festive and more latino.
2) tortilla chips. the wal-mart brand is like 1/3rd the price of tostitos and it tastes better
WHAT YOU'LL DO
1) arrange chips on a plate and sprinkle cheese on the chips. not too much! just a good even layer over all the chips. heat in microwave for about 30 seconds. you want some of the cheese good and bubbly but not all of it will be bubbly. don't worry this is normal. eat these chips and enjoy!
Quote from: postjack on February 03, 2010, 10:40:47 AM
Quote from: sophist on February 03, 2010, 09:24:48 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 03, 2010, 08:45:47 AM
Quote from: sophist on February 03, 2010, 08:20:34 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 03, 2010, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: VA slim on February 03, 2010, 08:10:15 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 02, 2010, 04:53:23 PM
isn't the whole 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 thing related to hiatus and then breakup, respectively, and not quality of live perfomance? did somebody already say this in this thread?
I'll tell you this, I expected 3.0 to develop into a slower, spacier extension of 2.0, but instead is all about the slawppy rawk. which while cool in itself still feels more transitional then anything.
:roll: :roll:
let it go bro. it was all a bad joke. that noone got. :shakehead:
yeah, i don't understand.
Start reading here (http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=14612.msg389877#msg389877).
3.0 sux?
Dude. We have been calling it 3.0 because it is the come back era. Since Hampton there has been an ongoing joke/discussion here about what is next (i.e. like a 3.1 or 3.05, etc), in other words the next evolution of Phish. Slim decided to take that concept and make a joke out of it, thus the "4.0" label. As in Miami was the turning point in their evolution.
It was a joke, and a funny one. Slim, I laughed, and enjoyed it.
sometimes the only snack that will really scratch the snack itch is shredded cheese on tortilla chips thrown in the microwave and heated up and eaten. it is easy to prepare this healthy snack. sharing is NOT recommended.
WHAT YOU'LL NEED:
1) shredded cheese, preferably finely shredded, cheap from wal-mart. get the cheese thats like fiesta cheese or mexicali cheese, it feels more festive and more latino.
2) tortilla chips. the wal-mart brand is like 1/3rd the price of tostitos and it tastes better
WHAT YOU'LL DO
1) arrange chips on a plate and sprinkle cheese on the chips. not too much! just a good even layer over all the chips. heat in microwave for about 30 seconds. you want some of the cheese good and bubbly but not all of it will be bubbly. don't worry this is normal. eat these chips and enjoy!
:?
Quote from: postjack on February 03, 2010, 10:40:47 AM
Quote from: sophist on February 03, 2010, 09:24:48 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 03, 2010, 08:45:47 AM
Quote from: sophist on February 03, 2010, 08:20:34 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 03, 2010, 08:16:49 AM
Quote from: VA slim on February 03, 2010, 08:10:15 AM
Quote from: postjack on February 02, 2010, 04:53:23 PM
isn't the whole 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 thing related to hiatus and then breakup, respectively, and not quality of live perfomance? did somebody already say this in this thread?
I'll tell you this, I expected 3.0 to develop into a slower, spacier extension of 2.0, but instead is all about the slawppy rawk. which while cool in itself still feels more transitional then anything.
:roll: :roll:
let it go bro. it was all a bad joke. that noone got. :shakehead:
yeah, i don't understand.
Start reading here (http://week4paug.net/index.php?topic=14612.msg389877#msg389877).
3.0 sux?
Dude. We have been calling it 3.0 because it is the come back era. Since Hampton there has been an ongoing joke/discussion here about what is next (i.e. like a 3.1 or 3.05, etc), in other words the next evolution of Phish. Slim decided to take that concept and make a joke out of it, thus the "4.0" label. As in Miami was the turning point in their evolution.
It was a joke, and a funny one. Slim, I laughed, and enjoyed it.
sometimes the only snack that will really scratch the snack itch is shredded cheese on tortilla chips thrown in the microwave and heated up and eaten. it is easy to prepare this healthy snack. sharing is NOT recommended.
WHAT YOU'LL NEED:
1) shredded cheese, preferably finely shredded, cheap from wal-mart. get the cheese thats like fiesta cheese or mexicali cheese, it feels more festive and more latino.
2) tortilla chips. the wal-mart brand is like 1/3rd the price of tostitos and it tastes better
WHAT YOU'LL DO
1) arrange chips on a plate and sprinkle cheese on the chips. not too much! just a good even layer over all the chips. heat in microwave for about 30 seconds. you want some of the cheese good and bubbly but not all of it will be bubbly. don't worry this is normal. eat these chips and enjoy!
This is nonsense. I demand the ability to control cheese/chip ratio on a real-time basis, preferably via some form of "Dipping" the chips one-by-one into cheese. If necessary, heating the cheese in a container, or "bowl," will contain spills and avoid the potential to soil your microwave
Your opinion is wrong! :evil:
a new era for nachoes?
I'm so confused.
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 09:40:17 AM
It seems like a pretty SER post, I didn't get the "joke" vibe at all.
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 08:55:52 AM
So is anyone still listening to Miami?
I'm not, nor have I listened to any shows more than once through with the exception of a few tunes that got a repeat. Maybe I am just bitter I didn't go, but Miami was more of the same exact thing they were doing the last week or so of Fall and I guess after following show by show, listening to everything, I just had my fill.
Right now I have been listening to older stuff and not touching anything 3.0. The real test is soon to come...is this all we are to expect from the band now, or will they truly take off from here and push the music in new directions? The question remains: Is Phish now a rock band or still deep down a psychedelic, improvisational band? Nothing in 2009 answered this either way for me.
Red Rocks & The Gorge were a good start, imo.
Obviously the overwhelmingly "rock" sound is a result of playing Exile on 10/31.
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 11:50:36 AM
Red Rocks & The Gorge were a good start, imo.
Exactly! I was so excited for Summer Leg 2 after that start...then it never continued and, dare I say, got safer. Then again after Albany...I was VERY excited for the last week of tour and, well....just got back to being safe again.
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 11:50:36 AM
Obviously the overwhelmingly "rock" sound is a result of playing Exile on 10/31.
And, nothing scares me more than this fact. Phish's sound from 1997-2000 was a direct extension of "Remain in Light." If Phish is going to use "Exile" in a similar fashion and base the foreseeable future on the straight ahead "solo over the chords rawk jams" of 2009...I do not feel good about that. At all. :|
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 08:55:52 AM
So is anyone still listening to Miami?
I've been rocking Deer Creek & Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.
I'm not. I relistened to the following 09 shows last week Asheville, Knoxville, and Cincy I. Besides that I have been on a 95 and 99 kick. In general though, my Phish listening has wanned since the year ended. I have been listening to a lot of albums (Animal Collective, Flaming Lips, Iron & Wine, Andrew Bird, M. Ward, and Wilco) and Grateful Dead.
I'm still listening to Miami, it's the only full run of shows from '09 I've kept on my player along with a few highlights from Summer and Fall.
Quote from: thatfargone on February 03, 2010, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 11:50:36 AM
Red Rocks & The Gorge were a good start, imo.
Exactly! I was so excited for Summer Leg 2 after that start...then it never continued and, dare I say, got safer. Then again after Albany...I was VERY excited for the last week of tour and, well....just got back to being safe again.
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 11:50:36 AM
Obviously the overwhelmingly "rock" sound is a result of playing Exile on 10/31.
And, nothing scares me more than this fact. Phish's sound from 1997-2000 was a direct extension of "Remain in Light." If Phish is going to use "Exile" in a similar fashion and base the foreseeable future on the straight ahead "solo over the chords rawk jams" of 2009...I do not feel good about that. At all. :|
weaksauce....
If that held true then 1995 should have had gooey 4 part harmonies on quick 4 minute ditties.....and 1996 should have been like Rawk Peak because it should have been based on The Who.....and then 1999 should have been all about the drugged out rawkstar due to Velvet Underground.....
and that entire statement I just put there...except for maybe the last sentence.....is FALSE....BLATENTLY.
Look at it like this.....they can't do what they do without the foundation in rawk.....period, /discussion
What exact part of the sauce is weak?
I am stating a hypothetical concern based on the past and the idea that mattsticks theory is correct and that Exile did influence the straight rock of this past year...not that I am sure Phish will base this era off of Exile like they based the "Cow Funk" off of Remain. Nor, did I state that Phish bases their playing style after each Halloween album. There is no debate that the jam style of 1997-2000 was a direct result of the preparation and practice that went into rehearsing Remain. If they use Exile in a similar fashion I do not expect anything more that what we have been given from 3.0.
I'm waiting for Phish 4.5.
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 08:55:52 AM
Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.
I listened to the two Camden '03 shows last week twice.
Still don't get the hate for the first night and the second night straight SMOKES!
Quote from: G. Augusto on February 03, 2010, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 08:55:52 AM
Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.
I listened to the two Camden '03 shows last week twice.
Still don't get the hate for the first night and the second night straight SMOKES!
Yup, people who have hate for 7/30/03 are missing the boat.
Quote from: Hicks on February 03, 2010, 05:21:48 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on February 03, 2010, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 08:55:52 AM
Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.
I listened to the two Camden '03 shows last week twice.
Still don't get the hate for the first night and the second night straight SMOKES!
Yup, people who have hate for 7/30/03 are missing the boat.
I know you don't like 07-29, but do you think that 07-30 is a better show?
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 09:40:17 AM
PNC 00, next vid release?
The 28th is one of my favorite shows of all time..
Quote from: G. Augusto on February 03, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Quote from: Hicks on February 03, 2010, 05:21:48 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on February 03, 2010, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 08:55:52 AM
Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.
I listened to the two Camden '03 shows last week twice.
Still don't get the hate for the first night and the second night straight SMOKES!
Yup, people who have hate for 7/30/03 are missing the boat.
I know you don't like 07-29, but do you think that 07-30 is a better show?
Than 7/29? Heck yeah, I love 7/30/03.
Quote from: Hicks on February 03, 2010, 05:26:07 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on February 03, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Quote from: Hicks on February 03, 2010, 05:21:48 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on February 03, 2010, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 08:55:52 AM
Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.
I listened to the two Camden '03 shows last week twice.
Still don't get the hate for the first night and the second night straight SMOKES!
Yup, people who have hate for 7/30/03 are missing the boat.
I know you don't like 07-29, but do you think that 07-30 is a better show?
Than 7/29? Heck yeah, I love 7/30/03.
Just curious.
I'd put 07-29 above it, but I think that it's more of a continuation of what 07-29 was.
07-30 II is very underrated.
Quote from: G. Augusto on February 03, 2010, 05:29:45 PM
Quote from: Hicks on February 03, 2010, 05:26:07 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on February 03, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Quote from: Hicks on February 03, 2010, 05:21:48 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on February 03, 2010, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 08:55:52 AM
Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.
I listened to the two Camden '03 shows last week twice.
Still don't get the hate for the first night and the second night straight SMOKES!
Yup, people who have hate for 7/30/03 are missing the boat.
I know you don't like 07-29, but do you think that 07-30 is a better show?
Than 7/29? Heck yeah, I love 7/30/03.
Just curious.
I'd put 07-29 above it, but I think that it's more of a continuation of what 07-29 was.
07-30 II is very underrated.
Indeed, it's been a long time since I listened to it, but I remember the Twist and YEM being pretty off the chain.
Quote from: Hicks on February 03, 2010, 05:30:39 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on February 03, 2010, 05:29:45 PM
Quote from: Hicks on February 03, 2010, 05:26:07 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on February 03, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
Quote from: Hicks on February 03, 2010, 05:21:48 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on February 03, 2010, 05:15:36 PM
Quote from: mattstick on February 03, 2010, 08:55:52 AM
Camden > IT 03 more than anything lately.
I listened to the two Camden '03 shows last week twice.
Still don't get the hate for the first night and the second night straight SMOKES!
Yup, people who have hate for 7/30/03 are missing the boat.
I know you don't like 07-29, but do you think that 07-30 is a better show?
Than 7/29? Heck yeah, I love 7/30/03.
Just curious.
I'd put 07-29 above it, but I think that it's more of a continuation of what 07-29 was.
07-30 II is very underrated.
Indeed, it's been a long time since I listened to it, but I remember the Twist and YEM being pretty off the chain.
This thread has prompted me to listen to this show...again.
I've actually listened to this show a bunch lately; I haven't dug into the 2nd set in a good month now, but I don't remember it being anything other than Trey playing with his effects for 20 minutes during Twist, an iffy Bug, the YEM I don't remember, and Walls was Walls (which isn't bad).
However, I have mentioned here my confusion as to the reverence of the SASS from this show. Upon numerous relistinings, it has grown on me each time. Its been a while since I listened to that in its whole, but it's genius has not been lost on me.
And actually, I would cite this as Exhibit A in the "Redemption Jams" hearing: Trey baaaaaadly fucks up the MAIN riff to the song. Which is actually like, the oNLY riff in the song. Its bad...
...yet it leads to a glorious jam. It's kinda funny tho, cuz you can almost hear Trey thinking that if they blow their minds with a jam, they'll forget about the blatant fuck up and ONLY talk about the sick jam.
and Page plays Bathtub Gin in FEFY
I've never really gotten the hype for 07-29-03.
I think it gets way too much love just cuz it was filled w/ bustouts (similar to 12-30-09 in that sense)
The jams have never really done much for me from that show. Maybe the fact that this show occurred directly after the horrible Raleigh show bumps it up a notch for some people who were in attendance for both? ... I'm not sure....
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and on a thread related note --- Phish has ALWAYS evolved and changed sounds in every year of there existence. It's only been one year into there return, so I think it is hard to say that Phish is now just a "rock" based band and will never return to the psychedelic, improvisational monster that they once were.
I'm sure 2010 will bring a new sound that continues off of 2009, but takes a slightly new direction....
yeah the Crosseyed jam from that show seriously does nothing for me... I don't understand the hype either. Camel Walk actually seems pretty solid...
I always wonder about this show, in regards to CK5: was he "in" on it? I mean... I can totally see him being like "WTF?!??!!?? WHAT COLOR DO I USE?!??!?????"
Quote from: Gumbo72203 on February 03, 2010, 06:20:13 PM
However, I have mentioned here my confusion as to the reverence of the SASS from this show. Upon numerous relistinings, it has grown on me each time. Its been a while since I listened to that in its whole, but it's genius has not been lost on me.
true enlightenment.
I'm partial to 26July - 3Aug.2003, the run up the Eastern seaboard towards IT. Every show except set II from 27July is preety consistent.
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on February 03, 2010, 06:22:09 PM
I've never really gotten the hype for 07-29-03.
I think it gets way too much love just cuz it was filled w/ bustouts (similar to 12-30-09 in that sense)
try listening to the red-hot Timber and the latter half of the jam in Crosseyed.
I thought set 2 of Raleigh was an improvement from the start i that show!
I think that opening Jim>Ya Mar combo has to be the worst mike has ever played
I'm listening to the 7/29 Jibboo... and its... actually... kinda really good. This is... strange. Trey's active as fuck. Fishman even gets it going towards the end of the jam. Trey actually almost actually taps back into "Trey 2000" with his playing style, because he busts a bunch of signature Jibboo-ish licks in there. Oh WOW!!!!!! 9:40 - 9:53 HOLY SHITTT!!!!
omg guys... dude... like.... that last lick, 9:50-9:53... holy shit. Wow. That actually just blew my mind.
And I just realized: ZERO PH licks!!! Trey doesn't do that "signature" PH pull-off lick EVER in the jam (you all know EXACTLY what I'm talking about).
That Jibboo was actually fucking sick... god damn. Jesus christ. Wow. Who knew.....
Just started Fee. Not too bad...
EDIT:
Fee was actually pretty good; nothing really bad at all, except expected vocal flubs. The jam was actually really cool, I thought... it was getting REALLY cool and spaced out when Trey starts up Timber, which actually was a segue. I'm glad he didn't pull his "I'm starting the next song now" shit where he totally just jumps all over the PMF groove.
Timber jam is kinda interesting. Really strange and different playing from Trey. Can't tell if he's purposely playing "out" or can't figure out the scale pattern for the key of the jam. He's wayyy louder than everyone else tho...
Some cool playing around the 5 minute mark... nothing terribly exciting, imo, tho. Crazy dissonance from Page at 5:30, which Trey actually responds to.
NOthing really exciting... the jam is "high" but it kept feeling like Trey just couldn't break through to get "there" or find any really workable theme.
Interesting to note that all these non-rotation songs were really forcing Trey to come up with something new rather than rely on his PH bag of tricks, which you hear all over the place in every other rotational song.
OWWWWWWWW!!!!!! oh boy, that hurts. Thats embarassing: 1:28 in McGrupp. Trey totally forgets the Slave-chord shit and starts playing the intro riff again...... wow. Forgot about that......
Quote from: Hicks on January 15, 2010, 06:55:49 PM
Crosseyed> Thunderhead is hott no doubt, that, Camel Walk and Jibboo are the only things from that night that really float my boat.
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on February 03, 2010, 06:43:57 PM
I thought set 2 of Raleigh was an improvement from the start i that show!
I think that opening Jim>Ya Mar combo has to be the worst mike has ever played
I mostly like the Discern from set 1. All-time best version.
not that I needed to really tell you all this, but the 7/29/03 McGrupp is the all-time trainwreck version of that song.
3 different times I thought Trey was gonna pull the plug because of how bad he fucked up...
Quote from: WhatstheUse? on February 03, 2010, 06:43:57 PM
I thought set 2 of Raleigh was an improvement from the start i that show!
I think that opening Jim>Ya Mar combo has to be the worst mike has ever played
For those that know the Atlanta area, Mike was seen skateboarding in little 5 (this was like 2-3am) after the Lakewood show. He went out drinking with some local phans and it ended up being a really late night for him. The resulting hangover is 7/27/03.
:police:BUMPerzz :evil:
Quote from: 1@3M4N $L1M on June 27, 2010, 11:04:09 PM
:police:BUMPerzz :evil:
this shit rose up tonight
August cant come fast enough for me
Quote from: JustJezmund on June 27, 2010, 11:07:39 PM
Quote from: 1@3M4N $L1M on June 27, 2010, 11:04:09 PM
:police:BUMPerzz :evil:
this shit rose up tonight
August cant come fast enough for me
I dunno, its his wedding night....
Quote from: kellerb on June 27, 2010, 11:11:50 PM
Quote from: JustJezmund on June 27, 2010, 11:07:39 PM
Quote from: 1@3M4N $L1M on June 27, 2010, 11:04:09 PM
:police:BUMPerzz :evil:
this shit rose up tonight
August cant come fast enough for me
I dunno, its his wedding night....
:hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard :hereitisyousentimentalbastard
never disappoint :beers:
Quote from: kellerb on June 27, 2010, 11:11:50 PM
Quote from: JustJezmund on June 27, 2010, 11:07:39 PM
Quote from: 1@3M4N $L1M on June 27, 2010, 11:04:09 PM
:police:BUMPerzz :evil:
this shit rose up tonight
August cant come fast enough for me
I dunno, its his wedding night....
:clap: :clap: This is why Keller's always invited back!
4.0? They are catching up to me :crazy:
ophishally soooo suhweeett bumpp.
well. thats it. its ophishal. i just almost enjoyed the sparkle from last night.
somethings changed.......