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Title: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 06, 2009, 03:46:18 PM

Let's see some predictions!

Go Jays!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on April 06, 2009, 03:54:22 PM
Yankees vs. Cubs in the World Series.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 06, 2009, 03:57:26 PM

Here's a litte template - step up and make some bold predictions people (I will get mine up when work gets less busy).

AL East winner:
AL Central winner:
AL West winner:
AL Wildcard

NL East winner:
NL Central winner:
NL West winner:
NL Wildcard:

AL Champs:
NL Champs:

WS Winner:

AL Cy Young:
NL Cy Young:

AL MVP:
NL MVP:

AL ROY:
NL ROY:

Dark Horse NL:
Dark Horse AL:
(unexpected team that makes a charge)

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: jonyem on April 06, 2009, 04:22:33 PM
Too early for me to predict anything, need a week or two of real, regular season ball to get a feel.

I will say however, that my Mariners will improve quite a bit on last year, and in the weak AL West, could snag a Wild Card if the East beats each other down enough.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on April 06, 2009, 04:27:50 PM
Quote from: jonyem on April 06, 2009, 04:22:33 PM
Too early for me to predict anything, need a week or two of real, regular season ball to get a feel.

Yes I would normally make this kind of list of predictions at the Allstar break... But I'll get back to make a few predictions in a couple of weeks also...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: tet on April 06, 2009, 04:39:28 PM
Quote from: bonebo on April 06, 2009, 03:54:22 PM
Yankees vs. Cubs in the World Series.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on April 06, 2009, 04:48:56 PM
Quote from: tet on April 06, 2009, 04:39:28 PM
Quote from: bonebo on April 06, 2009, 03:54:22 PM
Yankees vs. Cubs in the World Series.
That would be very sad... Because the Cubs would have to suffer a loss in the World Series after a 101 year drought...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: tet on April 06, 2009, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on April 06, 2009, 04:48:56 PM
Quote from: tet on April 06, 2009, 04:39:28 PM
Quote from: bonebo on April 06, 2009, 03:54:22 PM
Yankees vs. Cubs in the World Series.
That would be very sad... Because the Cubs would have to suffer a loss in the World Series after a 101 year drought...

that's the idea...  :evil:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on April 06, 2009, 06:25:14 PM
I'm going to enjoy watching Nats games this season with Dibble doing color commentary.  they haven't even finished their first game and he's already ripping into the pitching staff  :lol:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Fee on April 07, 2009, 04:41:32 AM
AL East winner:  Yankees
AL Central winner:  Minnesota
AL West winner:  Angels
AL Wildcard:  Boston

NL East winner:  Mets
NL Central winner:  Cubs
NL West winner: Dodgers
NL Wildcard:  Phillies

AL Champs:  Boston
NL Champs:  Cubs

WS Winner:  Cubs     :beers:

AL Cy Young:  Roy Halladay (if he stays in the Al all year)
NL Cy Young:  Cole Hamels

AL MVP:  Mark Teixeiria (unlikely but I'm having trouble coming up with one)
NL MVP:  David Wright

AL ROY:  Matt Wieters (should be up in the bigs by Mid-may)
NL ROY:  Jordan Zimmerman

Dark Horse NL:  Cincy
Dark Horse AL:  Seattle
(unexpected team that makes a charge)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 07, 2009, 08:31:09 AM
AL East winner: Red Sox (that literally hurt to type)
AL Central winner: Twins
AL West winner: A's
AL Wildcard: Rays

NL East winner: Mets
NL Central winner: Cards
NL West winner: Rockies
NL Wildcard: Dodgers

AL Champs: Twins
NL Champs: Dodgers

WS Winner: Dodgers

AL Cy Young: Doc Halladay
NL Cy Young: Johan Santana

AL MVP: BJ Upton (40/40 club)
NL MVP: ManRam

AL ROY: Travis Snider
NL ROY: Jason Motte (I have no idea really, and he just blew a save on opening day so maybe not)

Dark Horse NL: Reds (loads of young talent will have them competing in Sept)
Dark Horse AL: Rangers will do better, but the Twins will be sneaky good
(unexpected team that makes a charge)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on April 07, 2009, 03:31:29 PM


Here's a litte template - step up and make some bold predictions people (I will get mine up when work gets less busy).

AL East winner: Red Sox
AL Central winner: Twins
AL West winner: Angels
AL Wildcard: Rays

NL East winner: Mets
NL Central winner: Cubs
NL West winner: Diamondbacks
NL Wildcard: Phillies

AL Champs: Red Sox
NL Champs: Mets

WS Winner: Mets

AL Cy Young: Scott Kazmir
NL Cy Young: Johan Santana

AL MVP: Josh Hamilton
NL MVP: David Wright

AL ROY: Matt Wieters
NL ROY: Pablo Sandoval

Dark Horse NL: Cincy
Dark Horse AL: Kansas City
(unexpected team that makes a charge)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 07, 2009, 03:44:02 PM

'86 Rematch!  Will the ball scoot through Youkilis's legs in game 6?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on April 07, 2009, 03:58:16 PM
Quote from: mattstick on April 07, 2009, 03:44:02 PM

'86 Rematch!  Will the ball scoot through Youkilis's legs in game 6?

:-D

yup.

PS- I love how 3 out of 4 people have the yankees not making the playoffs. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 07, 2009, 04:01:18 PM

Same as it ever was...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 08, 2009, 09:58:26 AM

I'm re-projecting now that the Jays are 2-0!

PENNANT!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on April 08, 2009, 10:09:48 AM
Quote from: mattstick on April 08, 2009, 09:58:26 AM

I'm re-projecting now that the Jays are 2-0!

PENNANT!

Nothing would make me happier than to see a team other than the sawx/yankees win the A.L. East again. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 08, 2009, 10:12:26 AM

Our big clunky lefty David Purcey got into trouble then worked his way out of it - LOVE to see that from the young pitchers.  He was decent towards the end of last year but this year I think he can win us 12-14 games.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 08, 2009, 10:20:46 AM

The Jays first walk-off win last year was July 8!  3 months ahead of schedule in '09!!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on April 08, 2009, 10:26:04 AM
Quote from: mattstick on April 08, 2009, 10:12:26 AM

Our big clunky lefty David Purcey got into trouble then worked his way out of it - LOVE to see that from the young pitchers.  He was decent towards the end of last year but this year I think he can win us 12-14 games.



Aside from Wieters, you're gonna see us bring up 1 or maybe 2 of our three young stud pitchers in late May/early June.  They're all(supposedly) the real deal, but if 2/3 pan out, all of a sudden we've got a decent rotation again.  As of right now, our starting pitching is pathetic.     
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 08, 2009, 10:33:19 AM

Little article on Weiters...

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/the-death-of-superman/
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on April 08, 2009, 11:32:15 AM
Quote
"Matt Wieters took batting practice this morning. There were no survivors."

:lol:

I agree with the article.  The expectations for this kid are ridiculous. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 08, 2009, 12:12:52 PM
Some great Ralph Kiner quotes here:

"We'll be back after this word from Manufacturer's Hangover."
"All of his saves have come during relief appearances."
"Kevin McReynolds stops at third and he scores."
"You have really solidified the Mets' center field problems." -Kiner to Daryl Boston.
"All of the Mets' road wins against Los Angeles this year have been at Dodger Stadium."
"The reason the Mets have played so well at Shea this year is they have the best home record in baseball."
"Jay Bell is 0-for-6 in this series with 10 homers and 52 RBIs."
"The hall of fame ceremonies are on the thirty-first and thirty-second of July."
"That was Benes' fifth strikeout on the day. He came in with 94, so now he has 104 strikeouts on the year."
"The Mets just had their first .500 or better April since July of 1992."
"Andujar Cedeno to lead it off. He swings. And he is hit by a pitch. And it is hit over the wall and out of here for a home run."
"Some guys are inwardly outgoing."
"We're experiencing audio difficulties."
"We'll be back with the recrap after this message."
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on April 08, 2009, 01:32:45 PM
wow, that was hilarious.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on April 11, 2009, 02:24:47 AM
Jays in first.  O's a half game out. 

Man, I wish it was October already. :-P
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on April 11, 2009, 09:27:54 AM
Tiger's whipping the Rangers 15-2.  The Rangers are supposed to have a great offense this year.  I think the Tigers might have a good pitching group.

Ya'll better change your AL Central pick from the Twins to the Tiger right now.

/just saying
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 11, 2009, 10:11:49 AM

Didn't the Jays supposed "weak" offense pound the Tigers the first 3 games of the year?  What season are you watching?  The Tigers pitching is b r u t a l.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on April 11, 2009, 12:41:12 PM
Petitte looked great yesterday, 7 innings pitched, 3 hits, 1 earned run.  :clap:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 11, 2009, 06:48:13 PM
Lets go brewers!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on April 11, 2009, 10:23:39 PM
O's blanked the Rays, 6-0. :-)  Listened to the last few innings on the way home from work.

Nothing like baseball on the radio! :beers:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 11, 2009, 10:51:12 PM
Ack!  Great game.  Eff the cubs!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on April 12, 2009, 09:22:21 PM
Quote from: cleech74 on April 11, 2009, 10:23:39 PM
O's blanked the Rays, 6-0. :-)  Listened to the last few innings on the way home from work.

Nothing like baseball on the radio! :beers:

You can simultaneously do your tax returns and follow a ball game on the radio.  :lol:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: jephrey on April 13, 2009, 12:59:52 AM
Reed Johnson! 

So Matt, despite everyone and their mothers picking the Cubs, you've taken the Cards out of the central.  Even a most pessimistic fan I know says they'll have a worse record than last year but doesn't believe they'll miss the playoffs.  Based on the Cards general lineup, I'd be looking at them as the dark horse (If out of the central).  Brewers are up and coming and the Cubs seem to at least on paper improved from last year.  Not arguing the opinion, I'm just sayin'.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 13, 2009, 01:01:23 AM
fun fucking series jephrey. 

i look forward to more of these.  especially rocking the bats at miller south!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on April 13, 2009, 12:14:02 PM
Quote from: mattstick on April 11, 2009, 10:11:49 AM

Didn't the Jays supposed "weak" offense pound the Tigers the first 3 games of the year?  What season are you watching?  The Tigers pitching is b r u t a l.

I don't think the Jays have that weak of an offense, look what they did against the Indians.  13 runs in the first game, 5 and 4 in the 2nd and 3rd. 
The Tigers turned around and swept the Rangers who were touted as being a "great offensive team" by the douchebags on MLB channel.

We'll see how they fare against the White Sox this week.  The Tiger pitching could be great.  Verlander had a tough start, but then again he didn't come on until too late last season.  I just hope he gets his pitches going earlier this year.  Galarraga, Robinson, Minor, and Lyon all looked decent.

It's early. We'll see what happens.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on April 13, 2009, 12:23:07 PM
Quote from: Mr Minor on April 13, 2009, 12:14:02 PM
Quote from: mattstick on April 11, 2009, 10:11:49 AM

Didn't the Jays supposed "weak" offense pound the Tigers the first 3 games of the year?  What season are you watching?  The Tigers pitching is b r u t a l.

I don't think the Jays have that weak of an offense, look what they did against the Indians.  13 runs in the first game, 5 and 4 in the 2nd and 3rd. 
The Tigers turned around and swept the Rangers who were touted as being a "great offensive team" by the douchebags on MLB channel.

We'll see how they fare against the White Sox this week.  The Tiger pitching could be great.  Verlander had a tough start, but then again he didn't come on until too late last season.  I just hope he gets his pitches going earlier this year.  Galarraga, Robinson, Minor, and Lyon all looked decent.

It's early. We'll see what happens.

Your argument is that they beat up on the Indians?  C'mon dude, they won their first game of the season yesterday.  IMO, that's not a good team to base any argument on. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 13, 2009, 12:26:48 PM

Jays bats are much improved from last year, but they need to be hot all year to compete - that's not very likely.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on April 13, 2009, 01:36:46 PM
I am in no way saying the Indians are good, but just saying the Jay's offense isn't weak.

Actually, I am not going to defend either of those teams.  My point is the Tigers started off slow.  Tough series in Toronto but it got better at home against the Rangers.  Now it's on to the White Sox which will be an interesting test.  Their pitching will come around.



Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on April 13, 2009, 04:35:10 PM
sad day at the Nats' park...
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090413_Phils_announcer_Harry_Kalas_rushed_to_the_hospital.html

QuoteBY THE INQUIRER STAFF

Harry Kalas, the Phillies' Hall of Fame announcer, died at 1:20 p.m. today, the Phillies announced.

Mr. Kalas was 73.

He collapsed in the press box at Nationals Stadium in Washington at about 12:30 p.m. and was rushed to George Washington University Medial Center.

The cause of the death was not announced. Today's game against the Nationals will be played, but the team will not visit the White House tomorrow.

"We lost Harry today," David Montgomery, the team president, said. "We lost our voice."

Mr. Kalas, who was found unconsious, missed most of spring training after undergoing undisclosed surgery in Feburary. That surgery was unrelated to the detached retina that sidelined him for part of last season.

Senator Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) praised Mr. Kalas in a statement.

"As the voice of the Philadelphia Phillies, Harry Kalas was everyone's friend in this region. His incisive commentaries will be sorely missed."

Susan Buehler, president of the Mid-Atlantic Chapter of NATAS, today issued this statement upon hearing the news.

"The National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences sends our heartfelt condolences to Harry's family, his friends, his colleagues and many generations of fans. In 2002, NATAS bestowed our Chapter's most prestigious honor - the Governor's Award honoring his lifetime achievements. He was a beloved and respected broadcaster in the TV industry with a distinguishing voice that will resonate for years to come."

Mr. Kalas, who turned 73 on March 26, has broadcast Phillies games since 1971. He was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 2002 as the recipient of the Ford C. Frick Award. He is entering the final season of a 3-year contract that he signed in December 2006.

"Comcast SportsNet and the Philadelphia sports community lost a great man today," Brian Monihan, Comcast SportsNet senior vice president and general manager, said in a statement. "Harry Kalas was the voice of the Phillies, and many of us grew up listening to his legendary calls. It was a pleasure to have him as part of our SportsNet family. We will miss him dearly. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the Kalas family and the Phillies organization."

Jon Litner, Comcast Sports group president, issued this statement: "The passing of Harry Kalas leaves the Phillies, their fans, our viewers and sports fans everywhere without a treasured voice and unique personality. Harry set the tone for the Phillies' successes, hopes and triumphs for 38 seasons and fittingly he died where he lived so large - in the broadcast booth at the ballpark. The sports broadcasting business has lost a legend and on behalf of our employees, our thoughts go out to his family."


not sure I ever heard him call a baseball game, but I've been listening to him call the NFL for years (and NFL Films)...guy had an awesome voice.  RIP
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on April 13, 2009, 08:08:29 PM
WTF is that cat doing running around Citi Field??  :lol: :lol: :lol:


"im in ur new ballpark.  freakin the fuck out"
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on April 13, 2009, 08:27:14 PM
Quote from: blatboom on April 13, 2009, 08:08:29 PM
WTF is that cat doing running around Citi Field??  :lol: :lol: :lol:


"im in ur new ballpark.  freakin the fuck out"
He thought it would be full of kitty litter...  :lol:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: G. Augusto on April 13, 2009, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on April 13, 2009, 08:27:14 PM
Quote from: blatboom on April 13, 2009, 08:08:29 PM
WTF is that cat doing running around Citi Field??  :lol: :lol: :lol:


"im in ur new ballpark.  freakin the fuck out"
He thought it would be full of kitty litter...  :lol:

Wang's face is that way, cat! >>>>>>>>
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on April 13, 2009, 10:00:38 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on April 13, 2009, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on April 13, 2009, 08:27:14 PM
Quote from: blatboom on April 13, 2009, 08:08:29 PM
WTF is that cat doing running around Citi Field??  :lol: :lol: :lol:


"im in ur new ballpark.  freakin the fuck out"
He thought it would be full of kitty litter...  :lol:

Wang's face is that way, cat! >>>>>>>>
Wang definitely has earned the EPIC FAIL award for the worst start in baseball so far... 28.9 era... ouch!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on April 14, 2009, 10:08:01 AM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on April 13, 2009, 10:00:38 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on April 13, 2009, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on April 13, 2009, 08:27:14 PM
Quote from: blatboom on April 13, 2009, 08:08:29 PM
WTF is that cat doing running around Citi Field??  :lol: :lol: :lol:


"im in ur new ballpark.  freakin the fuck out"
He thought it would be full of kitty litter...  :lol:

Wang's face is that way, cat! >>>>>>>>
Wang definitely has earned the EPIC FAIL award for the worst start in baseball so far... 28.9 era... ouch!!!!!!!

Are you talkin' about the yankees?  Could you speak up?  I can't hear you from all the way down there in the basement of the A.L. East.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on April 14, 2009, 03:53:46 PM
Beckett suspended 6 games for throwing at Abreu!   :-o
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on April 14, 2009, 06:20:48 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on April 14, 2009, 10:08:01 AM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on April 13, 2009, 10:00:38 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on April 13, 2009, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on April 13, 2009, 08:27:14 PM
Quote from: blatboom on April 13, 2009, 08:08:29 PM
WTF is that cat doing running around Citi Field??  :lol: :lol: :lol:


"im in ur new ballpark.  freakin the fuck out"
He thought it would be full of kitty litter...  :lol:

Wang's face is that way, cat! >>>>>>>>
Wang definitely has earned the EPIC FAIL award for the worst start in baseball so far... 28.9 era... ouch!!!!!!!

Are you talkin' about the yankees?  Could you speak up?  I can't hear you from all the way down there in the basement of the A.L. East.

Easy there, Chief. :-P
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on April 15, 2009, 11:13:15 AM
Burnett, 8 innings, 3 hits, 2 runs, 9 strikeouts. Nice.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on April 15, 2009, 11:14:09 AM
Quote from: cleech74 on April 14, 2009, 06:20:48 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on April 14, 2009, 10:08:01 AM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on April 13, 2009, 10:00:38 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on April 13, 2009, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on April 13, 2009, 08:27:14 PM
Quote from: blatboom on April 13, 2009, 08:08:29 PM
WTF is that cat doing running around Citi Field??  :lol: :lol: :lol:


"im in ur new ballpark.  freakin the fuck out"
He thought it would be full of kitty litter...  :lol:

Wang's face is that way, cat! >>>>>>>>
Wang definitely has earned the EPIC FAIL award for the worst start in baseball so far... 28.9 era... ouch!!!!!!!

Are you talkin' about the yankees?  Could you speak up?  I can't hear you from all the way down there in the basement of the A.L. East.

Easy there, Chief. :-P

:-D  I gotta git while the gitten's good. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on April 16, 2009, 07:57:58 AM
You mean like last night! :roll:  Texas has the O's number.  30+ runs in a game 2 yrs ago, and 19 runs, yesterday.  Ouch! 

And then on to Boston.  We'll see where the chips fall, after this weekend.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 16, 2009, 08:29:32 AM
Quote from: bonebo on April 15, 2009, 11:13:15 AM
Burnett, 8 innings, 3 hits, 2 runs, 9 strikeouts. Nice.

Can't wait to see AJ against Halladay at some point this year. Except Burnett will probably be on the DL soon enough.

The O's are masters of the hot April. The regression looms.

PS. Jays are 7-3 with Halladay going tonight.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on April 16, 2009, 09:16:28 AM
Quote from: cleech74 on April 16, 2009, 07:57:58 AM
You mean like last night! :roll:  Texas has the O's number.  30+ runs in a game 2 yrs ago, and 19 runs, yesterday.  Ouch! 

And then on to Boston.  We'll see where the chips fall, after this weekend.

Dude, we've taken 2 out of 3 from every team we've played this year.  What are you complaining about?  And I was AT the 30+ run game.  Thanks for reminding me.   :|
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: noodle on April 16, 2009, 10:25:24 AM
CARDS v cubs Starts Today
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on April 16, 2009, 01:41:05 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on April 16, 2009, 09:16:28 AM
Quote from: cleech74 on April 16, 2009, 07:57:58 AM
You mean like last night! :roll:  Texas has the O's number.  30+ runs in a game 2 yrs ago, and 19 runs, yesterday.  Ouch! 

And then on to Boston.  We'll see where the chips fall, after this weekend.

Dude, we've taken 2 out of 3 from every team we've played this year.  What are you complaining about?  And I was AT the 30+ run game.  Thanks for reminding me.   :|

Yeah, kinda smite-worthy.  Man, I was being a dick.

No complaining at all.  MLB has been awesome this year, so far.  One almost bench clearing brawl, multiple records by two players in one game, and at least 2 players have hit for the cycle.   

All that, with the overwhelming drama of the deaths of Adenhart, Fydrich, and Kalas, looming over.

Oh, and the O's won't go anywhere with pitching that looks like this: :-P
(http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/images/2009/04/15/dJyM38cT.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on April 16, 2009, 01:48:47 PM
Quote from: cleech74 on April 16, 2009, 01:41:05 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on April 16, 2009, 09:16:28 AM
Quote from: cleech74 on April 16, 2009, 07:57:58 AM
You mean like last night! :roll:  Texas has the O's number.  30+ runs in a game 2 yrs ago, and 19 runs, yesterday.  Ouch! 

And then on to Boston.  We'll see where the chips fall, after this weekend.

Dude, we've taken 2 out of 3 from every team we've played this year.  What are you complaining about?  And I was AT the 30+ run game.  Thanks for reminding me.   :|

Yeah, kinda smite-worthy.  Man, I was being a dick.

No complaining at all.  MLB has been awesome this year, so far.  One almost bench clearing brawl, multiple records by two players in one game, and at least 2 players have hit for the cycle.   

All that, with the overwhelming drama of the deaths of Adenhart, Fydrich, and Kalas, looming over.

Oh, and the O's won't go anywhere with pitching that looks like this: :-P
(http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/images/2009/04/15/dJyM38cT.jpg)

No, you weren't being a dick.  I'm just happy because the O's are currently exceeding expectations.  We'll see what happens this weekend in the 4 game series with the sawx @ Fenway.  If our starers keep this up, our bullpen will be done like last year.  Not making it longer than the 4th inning is ridiculous.   

PS- I think it's really cool that MLB honors Jackie Robinson every year.  Everyone wearing #42 yesterday is a fitting tribute to an unbelievable player/person. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on April 16, 2009, 01:58:45 PM
Hopefully, after a day off, we'll bounce back in Boston.  Should be a good series, regardless.

And yes, the Jackie Robinson tribute was cool.  It also led to a little silliness late in the O's broadcast, last night.  Fred Manfra and Joe Angel were trying to figure out who was in the Rangers bullpen, sometime around the middle of the 7th.  Everyone wearing #42.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on April 16, 2009, 02:41:30 PM
Tigers turned it around after the Jays series and are 5-4 heading to Seattle.   Whipped up on the White Sox.  :banana:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on April 16, 2009, 03:44:56 PM
Yanks are opening their new stadium today.  Who just became a HUGE Indians fan?  This guy! 


EDIT: Sizemore just hit a Grand Slam!!!!!!  BOOYA!!!!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on April 17, 2009, 04:33:23 PM
Jeter just mashed a Tater in the 8th to snap a 5-5 tie and Mariano closes out the 9th.  Nice.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on April 18, 2009, 12:23:12 AM
O's lost a tough one to Boston, tonight.  Up 7-0 at one point, they end up losing 10-8. :-(

Pivotal point in the game was Baez beaning Youkilis in the head.  He couldn't calm down after that.  It seemed that he was really rattled.

Guthrie goes barely 5 innings.  It's going to be a long season for the O's, if their starting pitching can only get them to the 6th inning.

Atleast they gots the bats this year! 

I forsee many 12-9 "barnburner" losses to happen, this season. :|
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Fee on April 18, 2009, 03:05:01 AM
Jason Kubel hit for the cycle tonight.  Already the 3rd time that's been done this year.  Amazing.  O-Dog Hudson, Ian Kinsler were the others.  Hitting for the cylce is typically as rare as a No-hitter.  At least close to it.

Oh and what a Cubs game today.  Soriano blasts the Cubs to victory!!!!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: xanadux3 on April 18, 2009, 09:43:02 PM
...sad day for yankee fans  :lol:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on April 19, 2009, 11:27:16 AM
Quote from: xanadux3 on April 18, 2009, 09:43:02 PM
...sad day for yankee fans  :lol:

Late in the game the Bleacher Creatures were chanting " We Want Swisher "  :lol:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on April 23, 2009, 10:45:57 AM
Quote
NEW YORK (AP) - At new Yankee Stadium, the best seats in the park have turned out to be the emptiest.

The most expensive spots in America's costliest ballpark have become an embarrassment packing a financial sting to the proud New York Yankees, as the Legends Suite section in the infield has been filled only once in the six games since the $1.5 billion stadium opened last week.

On most days, the 1,895 seats that cost $500-$2,500 as part of season tickets and go up to $2,625 for individual games haven't been close to full. And as TV cameras pick up the patchy attendance with every pitch, it serves as a little tweak to America's richest baseball team.

"We're done talking about seats," Yankees president Randy Levine said on Wednesday. "We're not talking about seats."

But fans sure notice.

"I remember watching and you couldn't find an empty seat at Yankee Stadium. And now right behind home plate there's 15 to 20," said Aaron Feldstein, who scored a free ticket from a friend for Wednesday's game behind home plate - an area that costs $325 as part of season tickets.

The Legend Suite section was about 80 percent empty, and the upper decks - which have been mostly full - were a quarter empty for the game against the Oakland Athletics on a showery, cold afternoon.

Yet another sign of how the best seats have been overpriced is their resale level.

Legends Suite seats in section 27B, row 2, down the left-field line that originally sold for $500 were available for $225 early Wednesday on the online ticket broker StubHub.com. Tickets in section 23, row 7, behind the visitors' dugout could be had for $263, down from their $850 original price.

"Yeah, we understand it's not full. We actually understand why it's not," left fielder Johnny Damon said. "It's tough for, you know, business owners to justify those seats. It's either have those seats or lay off people from work, and I think that during this tough time, people are going to want to put it back into their companies and put it back into people instead of spending that type of money for seats."

A stadium built in boom times - with top-end seats that give fans access to private clubs and an upscale duplex buffet from white-toqued chefs at carving stations - the Yankees' front office doesn't seem to have counted on the recession dampening enthusiasm for the storied franchise.

The team refuses to talk about the financial impact of the empty seats, but if every spot in the Legends Suite were sold, the club would gross $1.63 million per game, according to AP's calculation.

"I think if anybody in any business had known where this economy was going to go, they would have done things differently," Yankees managing general partner Hal Steinbrenner said on April 2.

"Look, there's no doubt small amounts of our tickets might be overpriced. You know, we're continuing to look into that. But the bottom line is, the vast majority of them, it seems like they're right on because we've sold 35,000 full season equivalents, and a lot of the tickets have, you know, sold quite well."

So what do the Yankees do until the economy rebounds? Drop prices now and anger fans who paid (very) top dollar? Or wait, endure the jokes, and wonder what the effect on the actual game is?

All those empty cushioned seats with teak armrests translate to less crowd noise, making Yankee Stadium a less-intimidating place to play.

Oakland's Jason Giambi, who spent seven seasons with the Yankees, said the new stadium was "kind of bigger and more spread out than the other one."

In the old ballpark, it felt as if the fans "were on top of you," he said. "That made old Yankee Stadium so great."

Yankees, lol.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 23, 2009, 08:59:29 PM

Red Sox, lol

http://www.bugsandcranks.com/dantobin/uni-tards/

(http://www.bugsandcranks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/unis2.jpg)

With five uniforms through their first 15 games, the Red Sox are now on pace for a staggering 54 different uniforms this season, shattering the previous record of who gives a crap. Last night was the most interesting uniform yet, as the Sox donned a one-off green pull-over number in honor of Earth Day. Originally unveiled on St. Patrick's Day, the green hats and shirts became crazy popular in Irish-controlled Boston. They found a way to work them back into a game in a tribute to Red Auerbach shortly after his passed. But the Sox donned a new jersey yesterday, inspired by the idea of "going green," replete with cute little recycling emblem on the sleeve and everything. Me, I celebrate Earth Day differently (here and here). But I suppose an acknowledgment of environmentalism is a good thing, even if it's really not much more than a clever merchandising ploy.

Truth be told, I don't much care about new uniforms one way or the other. No, I don't love the navy, and I think the new road grays are not an improvement over the previous editions, and that "hanging Sox" hat awful. I like the changing uniforms, especially when a team with a history of crazy duds has a throwback night to one of their more Technicolor incarnations. But really, with a seven-game win streak and a  winning record, the Sox could be wearing just about anything and I'd still be happy. Well, not pinstripes. That just ain't gonna happen.

(Go ahead, tell me about the sixth uniform I forgot. I'm sure it's out there. I dare you...)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on April 23, 2009, 10:07:38 PM
O's are 8-8, after the win, tonight.  Pretty psyched about the weekend series with Texas.  The wheels haven't fallen off, yet. :|

Gonna have a good time, regardless.  The weather outlook is sweet. :-)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: GBL on April 24, 2009, 02:12:16 AM
a little late to this, but ill still give it a go

AL East winner: Red Sox
AL Central winner: Twins
AL West winner: Angels
AL Wildcard: Rays

NL East winner: Mets
NL Central winner: Cards
NL West winner: Padres
NL Wildcard: Marlins

AL Champs: Red Sox
NL Champs: Mets

WS Winner: Mets

AL Cy Young: CC Sabathia (YES, he will turn it around.. just like last year!)
NL Cy Young: Johan Santana

AL MVP: Justin Morneau
NL MVP: Albert Pujols

AL ROY:
NL ROY:

Dark Horse NL: Cubs (I have them not even making the playoffs, but its close)
Dark Horse AL: Indians (Not really a dark horse, they could win the central outright)
(unexpected team that makes a charge)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on April 24, 2009, 10:26:52 PM
O's dropped a tough one to Texas. :frustrated:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: sls.stormyrider on April 25, 2009, 11:10:35 PM
Yanks blow a 6 - 0 lead
Sox 16 Yanks 11
:banana:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 25, 2009, 11:16:07 PM
Quote from: slslbs on April 25, 2009, 11:10:35 PM
Yanks blow a 6 - 0 lead
Sox 16 Yanks 11
:banana:

meh.

like the special olympics, no matter who wins, baseball loses.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 26, 2009, 02:15:26 PM
In MLB when the Yankees play the Red Sox everyone treats it like it's the MLB All-Star game - I guess that'll happen in a non-salary cap league...

Regardless, this was funny:

Quote
I think a lot of Sox fans feared the worst in Friday night’s game against the Yankees. Mark Teixeira taking responsibility for difference-making runs in his Yankee debut against the Sox? Giving them a series-opening win? Loading the bases over and over, but grounding into double plays and only scoring two runs? That’s the worst thing that could possibly happen!

Of course, it didn’t work out like that, not by a long shot. And of course, that’s not the worst thing that could have possibly happened.

No, Teixeira could have hit four home runs, knocking in 10 RBI, each ball bouncing out of the stands and landing on Pedroia, Youkilis, Beckett, and Lester, instantly paralyzing each for life, but somehow not invalidating their contracts. The Sox would actually battle back to take a 11-10 lead in the late innings. Then, with two out in the ninth, on an 0-2 count, Mark Teixeira would hit a major league record fifth home run and 11th and 12th RBI, giving the Yankees a narrow 12-11 lead and killing Jonathan Papelbon. Rivera would come in and load the bases with nobody out, and Mark Teixeira would have an unassisted triple play to end the game. In his postgame interview, Teixeira would reveal that he was divorcing Leigh in order to marry my wife, who he’s been sleeping with for months. David Ortiz would react so badly to the loss that he would murder the rest of the Red Sox, in the process revealing that he and Dave Roberts were on steroids in 2004 and that Curt Schilling faked the bloody sock. Kim Jon Il would gain control of the Red Sox, escalate his rhertoric, and force Obama to nuke Fenway Park. The blast would kill all my family and friends and my wife would declare Mark Teixeira a superior lover. The Yankees would become America’s team and would win the next 26 championships, and it would be revealed that Ted Williams had actually been a Soviet spy. I would be blamed for the destruction of Fenway Park and would be sent to Guantanamo Bay where Cheney’s old CIA torture team would get to work on me. Away from the computer, my fantasy baseball team would finish in last place.

That would be worse.

But unbelievably, after two games against the Yankees, we actually get to play at figuring out how the games could have possibly gone any better. A ninth inning comeback with two outs in the ninth against Mariano? Retaking the lead ten times yesterday, turning an 0-6 deficit into a 16-11 win? No matter what happens today, the Red Sox will be alone in second place in the AL East (behind the fearsome Toronto Blue Jays, and whoever’s on that team…. they still got Raul Mondesi?) Any which way, Monday will be a bright day in Red Sox Nation and nobody will look at these two teams and automaticlly think of the one from New York as the better.

http://www.bugsandcranks.com/dantobin/the-worst-possible-scenario-avoided/
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on April 26, 2009, 06:56:32 PM
O's with a much needed win, against TX. :-)  It was hot and saucy, at the Yard today.  Lots of awesome baseball on the east coast, today, with the near-Summer-like conditions, up and down the  EC drink.

Bitches! :beers:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: sls.stormyrider on April 27, 2009, 08:14:48 PM
Ellsbury steals home

woot

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on April 27, 2009, 08:17:07 PM
way to go with the full windup.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 27, 2009, 08:45:40 PM

Aaron Hill did it 2 years ago against Petite.



Typical Boston/NY media whoaring though.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: sls.stormyrider on April 27, 2009, 09:21:56 PM
you would think that Pettit would have learned his lesson about going from the full wind-up.

media whoring????
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on April 27, 2009, 09:38:54 PM
Quote from: slslbs on April 27, 2009, 09:21:56 PM
you would think that Pettit would have learned his lesson about going from the full wind-up.

except in the vid mattstick posted he was in the stretch so it obviously doesn't matter.



Quote from: slslbs on April 27, 2009, 09:21:56 PM
media whoring????

:lol:
you know he's going to get his jabs in any chance he gets
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: sls.stormyrider on April 27, 2009, 09:43:45 PM
well, if he got burned in the stretch, chances are that much higher in the full

and yes, I didn't expect anything less
:wink:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on April 29, 2009, 11:14:27 AM
Phil Hughes looked great last night, I hope to see him continue and see Joba get moved back to Mariano's set up man.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on April 29, 2009, 11:33:28 AM
Quote from: slslbs on April 27, 2009, 09:43:45 PM
well, if he got burned in the stretch, chances are that much higher in the full

and yes, I didn't expect anything less
:wink:


ESPN and the US national media treat about 26 MLB teams like they are the minor leagues, if a Blue Jay steals home against the Yankees it's a blip on the radar. It happens at Fenway and it's the greatest play of all time.

3 Red Sox errors cost them the game last night. Love it.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on April 29, 2009, 07:50:40 PM
milwaukee brewers...brewers...keep turnin up the heat!

post 3333...so you know it's good!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on April 30, 2009, 08:44:36 AM
Tigers=  :frustrated:

Started off well with a win against the Yanks, and started the 2nd and 3rd game well but fell apart in the later innings.
:frustrated:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Ri©h on May 01, 2009, 01:42:26 AM
Wow. That rivalry between Tampa Bay and Boston isn't going away any time soon. The cellar dwelling Rays stomped Boston tonight.   :-o

And my Dodgers just keep on tickin' away. Go Big Blue!  :-)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on May 01, 2009, 01:36:23 PM
Due to an off day, yesterday, the O's did not suffer another loss.  We'll see about tonight.

They dropped 6 of the 9 home games, in the last stretch.  Very frustrating to watch those one and two run losses.  They can't seem to keep a lead.  Bullpen is going to get a lot of work this year, and that's not a good thing.

Go O's. :|
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 02, 2009, 03:57:41 PM

Well the O's have a lead in extras right now... hopefully your bullpen will fail again.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 02, 2009, 04:09:59 PM
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/497305999_ac42e4ed26.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 02, 2009, 06:58:26 PM
speaking of epic failz in the relief department... thanx a lot villanueva :rolls eyes:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on May 03, 2009, 01:17:04 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 02, 2009, 03:57:41 PM

Well the O's have a lead in extras right now... hopefully your bullpen will fail again.

It did. :roll:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: GBL on May 03, 2009, 01:02:09 PM
what are your opinions of the the three teams with the best records as of today? and where do you see these teams come september?

TOR, STL, LAD

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 03, 2009, 02:24:46 PM

All 3 will be there at the end.

Jays are doing it on shoestring pitching last night and the offense is legit, so they will only get better.

St. Louis is always in it, LaRussa is one of the best and any team with Albert Pujols is a contender.

LAD is in an easy division and have a great offensive team.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 03, 2009, 03:19:22 PM
(http://www.detroitbadboys.com/images/brooms.jpg)

Jays are 18-9.  Sofa King amazing.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: GBL on May 03, 2009, 03:28:36 PM
Matt: How much do you think Cito Gaston has played a role in the team being where its at thus far in the season?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 03, 2009, 03:42:09 PM

The word is that Cito is a great manager from the last out of the game to the first out of the next game.  He manages the players as athletes and men very, very well.

He makes a lot of weird in-game decisions that make you scratch your head, but you can't argue with his record.

When Cito came along he brought Gene Tenace and Mickey Brantley with him - all 3 guys are (from all reports) great hitting coaches.  The Jays major problem in '08 was hitting and now the club is swingin' hot bats.

I love the way he's handled Adam Lind and Travis Snider, when Cito came up last year he brought Lind up from triple-A and batted him 9th for months - these guys have no pressure in the 9-hole and quickly grow into roles as major leaguers.

So having Lind and the Snider/Bautista platoon take up a lot of ABs that were taken up by Frank Thomas/Kevin Mench/Brad Wilkerson has improved the offense.  Combine that with a healthy Scott Rolen, Lyle Overbay and Aaron Hill which takes the pressure off Wells/Rios = a great hitting club in 2009.

The pitching depth is what is blowing me away - we have a full rotation of guys on the DL and we're still winning games.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on May 03, 2009, 05:24:02 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 03, 2009, 03:19:22 PM
(http://www.detroitbadboys.com/images/brooms.jpg)

Jays are 18-9.  Sofa King amazing.

O's are happy to be on a plane to Tampa.  I think Trembley will have a heart attack by the All-Star break, if the O's keep playing this way.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 03, 2009, 06:44:46 PM

Check out this awesome picture of the Braves Field scoreboard circa 1950.

(http://tbn0.google.com/hosted/images/c?q=fe6dd0781c9948a7_large)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 09, 2009, 08:38:47 AM
The Orioles, to the Yankees, are like that girl you know who's slightly overweight with bad self esteem who you can go see any time you need a pick-me-up.  You can have your way with her and she'll even make you a snack afterward before you leave and don't talk to her again for two months.  Thanks Baltimore !  :beers:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on May 09, 2009, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: bonebo on May 09, 2009, 08:38:47 AM
The Orioles, to the Yankees, are like that girl you know who's slightly overweight with bad self esteem who you can go see any time you need a pick-me-up.  You can have your way with her and she'll even make you a snack afterward before you leave and don't talk to her again for two months.  Thanks Baltimore !  :beers:

Hmm.  As it stands, their series is tied 2-2, this year.  We'll see how this plays out, after this weekend.

Sabathia is 1-1 vs O's, and Weng in 0-1.  Teixeira is really working out well for ya, as well.

And hey, with all that the Yankees have spent this year, you must feel pretty good about beating up on Baltimore. :-P
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Ri©h on May 09, 2009, 11:03:28 AM
Quote from: cleech74 on May 09, 2009, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: bonebo on May 09, 2009, 08:38:47 AM
The Orioles, to the Yankees, are like that girl you know who's slightly overweight with bad self esteem who you can go see any time you need a pick-me-up.  You can have your way with her and she'll even make you a snack afterward before you leave and don't talk to her again for two months.  Thanks Baltimore !  :beers:

Hmm.  As it stands, their series is tied 2-2, this year.  We'll see how this plays out, after this weekend.

Sabathia is 1-1 vs O's, and Weng in 0-1.  Teixeira is really working out well for ya, as well.

And hey, with all that the Yankees have spent this year, you must feel pretty good about beating up on Baltimore. :-P

Oooo, cleech delivereth the smackdown.   :samurai:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 09, 2009, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: cleech74 on May 09, 2009, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: bonebo on May 09, 2009, 08:38:47 AM
The Orioles, to the Yankees, are like that girl you know who's slightly overweight with bad self esteem who you can go see any time you need a pick-me-up.  You can have your way with her and she'll even make you a snack afterward before you leave and don't talk to her again for two months.  Thanks Baltimore !  :beers:

Hmm.  As it stands, their series is tied 2-2, this year.  We'll see how this plays out, after this weekend.

Sabathia is 1-1 vs O's, and Weng in 0-1.  Teixeira is really working out well for ya, as well.

And hey, with all that the Yankees have spent this year, you must feel pretty good about beating up on Baltimore. :-P

Of course it feels good, one game at a time.  Anyway I spend more time enjoying games than hating on other teams.  The above post was tongue in cheek and has at least a modicum of comedic value, IMO.  Lighten up.  :lol:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on May 09, 2009, 11:37:25 AM
Quote from: bonebo on May 09, 2009, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: cleech74 on May 09, 2009, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: bonebo on May 09, 2009, 08:38:47 AM
The Orioles, to the Yankees, are like that girl you know who's slightly overweight with bad self esteem who you can go see any time you need a pick-me-up.  You can have your way with her and she'll even make you a snack afterward before you leave and don't talk to her again for two months.  Thanks Baltimore !  :beers:

Hmm.  As it stands, their series is tied 2-2, this year.  We'll see how this plays out, after this weekend.

Sabathia is 1-1 vs O's, and Weng in 0-1.  Teixeira is really working out well for ya, as well.

And hey, with all that the Yankees have spent this year, you must feel pretty good about beating up on Baltimore. :-P

Of course it feels good, one game at a time.  Anyway I spend more time enjoying games than hating on other teams.  The above post was tongue in cheek and has at least a modicum of comedic value, IMO.  Lighten up.  :lol:

Just playing for fun. :-D

It was a good crowd at Camden Yards, last night.  We got good, hot, baseball weather for today.  Good times!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 09, 2009, 12:51:59 PM
Quote from: cleech74 on May 09, 2009, 11:37:25 AM
Quote from: bonebo on May 09, 2009, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: cleech74 on May 09, 2009, 10:41:22 AM
Quote from: bonebo on May 09, 2009, 08:38:47 AM
The Orioles, to the Yankees, are like that girl you know who's slightly overweight with bad self esteem who you can go see any time you need a pick-me-up.  You can have your way with her and she'll even make you a snack afterward before you leave and don't talk to her again for two months.  Thanks Baltimore !  :beers:

Hmm.  As it stands, their series is tied 2-2, this year.  We'll see how this plays out, after this weekend.

Sabathia is 1-1 vs O's, and Weng in 0-1.  Teixeira is really working out well for ya, as well.

And hey, with all that the Yankees have spent this year, you must feel pretty good about beating up on Baltimore. :-P

Of course it feels good, one game at a time.  Anyway I spend more time enjoying games than hating on other teams.  The above post was tongue in cheek and has at least a modicum of comedic value, IMO.  Lighten up.  :lol:

Just playing for fun. :-D

It was a good crowd at Camden Yards, last night.  We got good, hot, baseball weather for today.  Good times!

I'm sorry I never made the trip down before moving west, heard nothing but great things about Camden Yards.  Anyway, I'm going to savor not having to watch the Yankee's bullpen for one game !   :roll:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 09, 2009, 08:01:48 PM

Red Sox & Yankees getting knocked around today.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Ri©h on May 10, 2009, 12:45:09 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 09, 2009, 08:01:48 PM

Red Sox & Yankees getting knocked around today.

Add the Giants to that little pity party.   :lol:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 10, 2009, 12:46:56 AM

Wait, there are other teams outside the AL East?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Ri©h on May 10, 2009, 01:04:38 AM
Other teams besides the Jays, brah!   :wink:

Dodgers are kickin' ass!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 10, 2009, 09:35:46 AM
It looks like that slightly overweight girl regained her self esteem last night .   :lol: Ooy vey !
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 10, 2009, 01:22:25 PM

Milwaukee Brewers, Brewers keep turnin' up the heat!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Gumbo72203 on May 10, 2009, 04:06:52 PM
I feel bad for the Pirates...   they're going to lose their 8th straight, and the mets are just pounding them in the 8th inning now
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on May 11, 2009, 09:20:08 AM
O's. :frustrated:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 11, 2009, 09:36:41 AM
Quote from: cleech74 on May 11, 2009, 09:20:08 AM
O's. :frustrated:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on May 11, 2009, 11:37:40 AM
Yesterday was tough.  Couldn't win one for Mother's Day.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on May 14, 2009, 05:21:38 PM
Quote from: cleech74 on May 11, 2009, 09:20:08 AM
O's. Tigers :frustrated:


fypfm

Verlander throws 13 S.O. and it's 5-1.  They send in the closers and they lose to the Twins.  Again.  Last nights extra innings killed me, too.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 14, 2009, 11:30:53 PM

So much going on in this awesome pic...

AJ looking to Doc for some recognition

Halladay giving AJ the death stare

Vernon Wells thinking "oh shit, it's ON!"

The Toronto fans letting AJ know that taking a huge contract from the Yankees is like selling your soul...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 15, 2009, 10:54:28 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 14, 2009, 11:30:53 PM

So much going on in this awesome pic...

AJ looking to Doc for some recognition

Halladay giving AJ the death stare

Vernon Wells thinking "oh shit, it's ON!"

The Toronto fans letting AJ know that taking a huge contract from the Yankees is like selling your soul...

:roll:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 15, 2009, 11:02:10 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 14, 2009, 11:30:53 PM

So much going on in this awesome pic...

AJ looking to Doc for some recognition

Halladay giving AJ the death stare

Vernon Wells thinking "oh shit, it's ON!"

The Toronto fans letting AJ know that taking a huge contract from the Yankees is like selling your soul...

We had similar relations with Mike Mussina.  The best part is that they never won a championship with him on the team.   :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 15, 2009, 11:02:45 AM
Quote from: bonebo on May 15, 2009, 10:54:28 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 14, 2009, 11:30:53 PM

So much going on in this awesome pic...

AJ looking to Doc for some recognition

Halladay giving AJ the death stare

Vernon Wells thinking "oh shit, it's ON!"

The Toronto fans letting AJ know that taking a huge contract from the Yankees is like selling your soul...

:roll:

As for you, I'm not sure what you're rolling your eyes about.  Everything Mattstick said is the truth.   
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 15, 2009, 11:07:43 AM
Can we start a "100 reasons to hate the Yankees" thread?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on May 15, 2009, 11:10:14 AM
(http://eknp.com/clipart/ani/siren.gif)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 15, 2009, 11:13:15 AM
hahaha, yeah, talk of the yankees is always a sure way to get me fired up. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 15, 2009, 04:45:26 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 15, 2009, 11:02:45 AM
Quote from: bonebo on May 15, 2009, 10:54:28 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 14, 2009, 11:30:53 PM

So much going on in this awesome pic...

AJ looking to Doc for some recognition

Halladay giving AJ the death stare

Vernon Wells thinking "oh shit, it's ON!"

The Toronto fans letting AJ know that taking a huge contract from the Yankees is like selling your soul...

:roll:

As for you, I'm not sure what you're rolling your eyes about.  Everything Mattstick said is the truth.   

What's the color of the sky in your world ?  Is it pretty ?

Do you really believe that fellow athletes dislike each other for getting paid as much as they can ?  Is there a large list of guys staying put and earning less than they can out of loyalty ?  Maybe I'm not paying attention.

Oh, and as far as the Yankees payroll etc., it honestly doesn't mean anything to me other than the organization brings in a lot of money and is also willing to spend it to win.  I just like baseball, the business end of it bores me.  I'm sorry the team I root for brings you such misery.  Maybe it's just you ?  8-)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 20, 2009, 03:10:26 AM
(http://www.feelingdodgerblue.com/img/DODGERS.jpg)


Kickin' ass and takin' names!!!   :beers:   :clap:



p.s. Fuck the Yankees
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 06:28:36 AM
Quote from: bonebo on May 15, 2009, 04:45:26 PM

What's the color of the sky in your world ?  Is it pretty ?

Do you really believe that fellow athletes dislike each other for getting paid as much as they can ?  Is there a large list of guys staying put and earning less than they can out of loyalty ?  Maybe I'm not paying attention.

Oh, and as far as the Yankees payroll etc., it honestly doesn't mean anything to me other than the organization brings in a lot of money and is also willing to spend it to win.  I just like baseball, the business end of it bores me.  I'm sorry the team I root for brings you such misery.  Maybe it's just you ?  8-)

The thing is the Yankees spend a lot of money and don't win.

Halladay is one of those guys staying with an organization and earning less than he could be.  So I guess you aren't paying attention.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 11:11:18 AM

Clete's Cougars:

(http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/p1130256-1024x768.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 20, 2009, 01:01:09 PM
Clete must be really young.  :lol:  :wink:


"Here kitty, kitty, kitty!"


Damn I love baseball season!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 03:27:56 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 06:28:36 AM
Quote from: bonebo on May 15, 2009, 04:45:26 PM

What's the color of the sky in your world ?  Is it pretty ?

Do you really believe that fellow athletes dislike each other for getting paid as much as they can ?  Is there a large list of guys staying put and earning less than they can out of loyalty ?  Maybe I'm not paying attention.

Oh, and as far as the Yankees payroll etc., it honestly doesn't mean anything to me other than the organization brings in a lot of money and is also willing to spend it to win.  I just like baseball, the business end of it bores me.  I'm sorry the team I root for brings you such misery.  Maybe it's just you ?  8-)

The thing is the Yankees spend a lot of money and don't win.

Halladay is one of those guys staying with an organization and earning less than he could be.  So I guess you aren't paying attention.

I still don't see how that offends people, are you upset with wealthy neighbors ?  As far as athletes " staying with an organization and earning less "  your joking right ?  I'm an admirer of altruism but I find it's very rare and athletes are no exception.  But your right, it's all the Yankees fault.  :roll:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 03:35:58 PM

Wait, what?

You have some kind of Yankee-bashing syndrome.  What exactly do you think I'm blaming the Yankees for?

I think the Yankees are possibly the worst managed sports franchise in HISTORY.

Give that kind of money to JP Riccardi and see if the Jays don't win a WS in a decade - I doubt it.

If Big Papi keeps his slump up, he might be in line for a fat contract with the Yankees...  Wait 3 years and they'll be re-writing the dictionary definition of regret with CC Sabathia's picture.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Blaise on May 20, 2009, 03:48:55 PM
how about those brewers y'all!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 03:49:50 PM

The Brewers left the AL East a long time ago, they still play major league baseball?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 03:53:20 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 03:35:58 PM

Wait, what?

You have some kind of Yankee-bashing syndrome.  What exactly do you think I'm blaming the Yankees for?

I think the Yankees are possibly the worst managed sports franchise in HISTORY.

Give that kind of money to JP Riccardi and see if the Jays don't win a WS in a decade - I doubt it.

If Big Papi keeps his slump up, he might be in line for a fat contract with the Yankees...  Wait 3 years and they'll be re-writing the dictionary definition of regret with CC Sabathia's picture.



Um, 26 Championships  ?  Anyway they make huge amounts of money through business acumen and have it to spend.  I don't necessarily admire the Trumps of the world but I can't get slag him off either, it's called capitalism. 

As far as Burnett do you really find it outrageous that an oft injured aging pitcher would try to earn what he can possibly in the twilight of his career ?

In Sabathia's last three outings he is 3-0 with a 1.13 ERA, it's a long season.  Pace your self before you begin gloating.  :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 04:03:59 PM

Again, you seem to be projecting thoughts into my head.

CC will be fat and old in 3 years, he looks pretty good right now, yes.

AJ is just a dick - he doesn't take the game seriously and he will never be as good as Halladay, even if he does make more money.  I get the feeling that AJ thinks Doc was his friend but that look from Doc in the pic we're discussing is certainly not friendly.

lol @ the idea that the Yankees have "business acumen".

You can live on the "26 Championships" all you want, but every single Yankee fan out there probably feels ripped off - and if you don't, you should.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 04:09:44 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 04:03:59 PM

Again, you seem to be projecting thoughts into my head.

CC will be fat and old in 3 years, he looks pretty good right now, yes.

AJ is just a dick - he doesn't take the game seriously and he will never be as good as Halladay, even if he does make more money.  I get the feeling that AJ thinks Doc was his friend but that look from Doc in the pic we're discussing is certainly not friendly.

lol @ the idea that the Yankees have "business acumen".

You can live on the "26 Championships" all you want, but every single Yankee fan out there probably feels ripped off - and if you don't, you should.

Why, they don't get my money in any way and no one has to spend anything on them if they don't want.  You may be projecting thoughts into every Yankees fans head which would put your psychic abilities WAY above mine !  :-D  As far as business smarts, acquiring Matsui led directly to a HUGE TV deal with a Japanese network that brings large sums of money into the organization. That's pretty progressive business sense.  They then turn around and spend money on the team which then makes the fan spending money on the team not mind as much.  Get it ?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 20, 2009, 04:15:29 PM
Quote from: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 03:53:20 PM
Um, 26 Championships  ? 

I hate to chime in here since this is your pipe dream and all but since they last won a Series (2000) they have sucked like a Hoover. Pouring cash into your organization to buy the best players money can get apparently hasn't worked for them in the last 9 years with regards to winning that 27th Series.


Quote from: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 04:03:59 PM

lol @ the idea that the Yankees have "business acumen".


Q4T
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 04:16:17 PM
You don't go to games, wear shirts or hats, or get YES network?

Must be a big fan...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on May 20, 2009, 04:18:06 PM
(http://www.articulate.com/rapid-elearning/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/blinders.gif)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 20, 2009, 04:23:07 PM
Quote from: blatboom on May 20, 2009, 04:18:06 PM
(http://www.articulate.com/rapid-elearning/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/blinders.gif)

Where can I get a pair of those?   :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 04:30:16 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 04:16:17 PM
You don't go to games, wear shirts or hats, or get YES network?

Must be a big fan...

Living in Utah it's kind of tough for me to get to games.  YES comes in most second tier basic cable packages and I own a Mattingly shirt but I'm also an adult so I don't feel the need to geek out on merch.

As far as the money put into the team, again they have it to spend. If MLB gets the balls to institute a hard cap things will change. Anyway I'm glad I'm not obsessed with $ like some of you, I just enjoy the game.  8-)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 20, 2009, 04:34:49 PM
I don't think anyone is obsessed with money here.  It's just that the Yankees personify everything that is wrong with baseball. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 04:40:45 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 20, 2009, 04:34:49 PM
I don't think anyone is obsessed with money here.  It's just that the Yankees personify everything that is wrong with baseball. 

I can live with that, though they're not alone....

They're are aspects of capitalism I hate ( especially right now  :frustrated: ), but I can't hate on people who've figured out the angles better than I have.   
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 20, 2009, 04:57:06 PM
Quote from: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 04:30:16 PM
Anyway I'm glad I'm not obsessed with $ like some of you, I just enjoy the game.  8-)

Whoa now, hold on. Many of us enjoy the game too. My son plays t-ball and it's a blast to watch those kids just having fun trying to learn the game of baseball. In fact I have a game to attend in 2 hours and can't wait. What's sad though is the truth.

Quote from: antelope19 on May 20, 2009, 04:34:49 PM
...the Yankees personify everything that is wrong with baseball. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: Rift on May 20, 2009, 04:57:06 PM
Quote from: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 04:30:16 PM
Anyway I'm glad I'm not obsessed with $ like some of you, I just enjoy the game.  8-)

Whoa now, hold on. Many of us enjoy the game too. My son plays t-ball and it's a blast to watch those kids just having fun trying to learn the game of baseball. In fact I have a game to attend in 2 hours and can't wait. What's sad though is the truth.

Quote from: antelope19 on May 20, 2009, 04:34:49 PM
...the Yankees personify everything that is wrong with baseball. 

What does your son's T-ball game have to do with MLB ?  That was cheap.  :roll:

Put it to you this way, I enjoy baseball and honestly don't care about the money part of it, in fact I dislike that aspect of it.  If I was a Pirates fan maybe I would think about it more ; I feel bad for them and their fans just like I feel bad about all the US expansion teams in the NHL but I don't hate on the USA for it.  I just enjoy the sport.

Tell your boy to keep his back elbow up and follow through.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 05:38:17 PM
The Yanks are a division rival so regardless of their complete ineptitude when it comes to free agent contracts, I'm going to hate them.

The facts are straight though, they haven't developed a decent position player since the mid-90s.  They spend more than 1/2 the league combined and still haven't won a World Series in this decade.

FYI I'm pretty sure the Mariners signed a deal with Japan Television stations before the Yankees did, so it's not really that savvy a move.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on May 20, 2009, 05:41:19 PM
Mariner'd
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 20, 2009, 05:48:53 PM
Quote from: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: Rift on May 20, 2009, 04:57:06 PM
Quote from: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 04:30:16 PM
Anyway I'm glad I'm not obsessed with $ like some of you, I just enjoy the game.  8-)

Whoa now, hold on. Many of us enjoy the game too. My son plays t-ball and it's a blast to watch those kids just having fun trying to learn the game of baseball. In fact I have a game to attend in 2 hours and can't wait. What's sad though is the truth.

Quote from: antelope19 on May 20, 2009, 04:34:49 PM
...the Yankees personify everything that is wrong with baseball. 

What does your son's T-ball game have to do with MLB ?  That was cheap.  :roll:


Not trying to take a cheap shot. Just trying to make a point. Sorry.

Kids have no idea of the bullshit and drama that is MLB. Yet they idolize people who play for nothing more than bling, big houses, hot chicks, and as many cars as they can pack into their garage. For my son, he is having the time of his life and when he plays, he plays because he loves the game just like his dad does. That was my only point.

I grew up with a family friend who was quite a few years older than me and a ball player as well. I watched him climb from AAA to the show while he played for the Padres and Angels before quitting. He was a backup catcher and spent most of his time in the bullpen unless they needed him to fill in during a few games. When I asked him why he quit he said he was tired of all the bullshit and most of his teammates were only in it for the money. This was during the late 80s and early 90s. He now runs a construction company and coaches little league simply for the love of the game.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 06:28:18 PM
Quote from: Rift on May 20, 2009, 05:48:53 PM
Quote from: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: Rift on May 20, 2009, 04:57:06 PM
Quote from: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 04:30:16 PM
Anyway I'm glad I'm not obsessed with $ like some of you, I just enjoy the game.  8-)

Whoa now, hold on. Many of us enjoy the game too. My son plays t-ball and it's a blast to watch those kids just having fun trying to learn the game of baseball. In fact I have a game to attend in 2 hours and can't wait. What's sad though is the truth.

Quote from: antelope19 on May 20, 2009, 04:34:49 PM
...the Yankees personify everything that is wrong with baseball. 

What does your son's T-ball game have to do with MLB ?  That was cheap.  :roll:


Not trying to take a cheap shot. Just trying to make a point. Sorry.

Kids have no idea of the bullshit and drama that is MLB. Yet they idolize people who play for nothing more than bling, big houses, hot chicks, and as many cars as they can pack into their garage. For my son, he is having the time of his life and when he plays, he plays because he loves the game just like his dad does. That was my only point.

I grew up with a family friend who was quite a few years older than me and a ball player as well. I watched him climb from AAA to the show while he played for the Padres and Angels before quitting. He was a backup catcher and spent most of his time in the bullpen unless they needed him to fill in during a few games. When I asked him why he quit he said he was tired of all the bullshit and most of his teammates were only in it for the money. This was during the late 80s and early 90s. He now runs a construction company and coaches little league simply for the love of the game.

Coolio, I hope I didn't sound harsh.

Hey, the money sitting in front of potential Pro's is insane and money changes almost everything.  A T-ball game is a beautiful thing.  :beers:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 20, 2009, 06:29:23 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 05:38:17 PM
The Yanks are a division rival so regardless of their complete ineptitude when it comes to free agent contracts, I'm going to hate them.

The facts are straight though, they haven't developed a decent position player since the mid-90s.  They spend more than 1/2 the league combined and still haven't won a World Series in this decade.

FYI I'm pretty sure the Mariners signed a deal with Japan Television stations before the Yankees did, so it's not really that savvy a move.

Eh, I'm all argued out, hate away tho it's bad for ya.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 20, 2009, 07:32:21 PM
Quote from: Blaise on May 20, 2009, 03:48:55 PM
how about those brewers y'all!

We keep turnin' keep turnin' keep turnin' up the heat!

5 more wins in a row and we get free George Webb burgers!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 20, 2009, 07:33:19 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 03:49:50 PM

The Brewers left the AL East a long time ago, they still play major league baseball?

Hmmmm.  21 wins in the last 26 games says yes, they still do in fact play major league baseball.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: easts_vault on May 21, 2009, 08:32:53 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 11:11:18 AM

Clete's Cougars:

(http://www.detroittigersweblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/p1130256-1024x768.jpg)

YES
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 21, 2009, 11:28:31 AM

Jake Peavy to the White Sox deal pending...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 21, 2009, 11:40:54 AM
Interesting.  I just read that he has a "No trade" clause in his contract.  We'll see if this one pans out. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 21, 2009, 02:17:02 PM
Oh snap! The Dodgers bust out the broom and sweep the Mets. Now for a little cross town rivalry with the Angels.

And who needs Manny Ramirez? He said earlier in the season that he hopes to end his career in Cleveland. Fine by this Dodger fan. After getting busted for juicing up I kind of hope they send him packing.


The Wrecking Crew will be the first team to win 30 games this season.  w00t!  :clap:  :banana:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 21, 2009, 02:55:10 PM
Can we please drop the inter-league play already. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 21, 2009, 03:03:55 PM

Rivalry weekend!

Jays vs. Braves doesn't seem like much of a rivalry...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 21, 2009, 03:04:17 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 21, 2009, 03:03:55 PM

Rivalry weekend!

Jays vs. Braves doesn't seem like much of a rivalry...

:lol:

zactly

If you'd like to watch some Junior Varsity baseball, tune into the O's/Nats series this weekend. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 21, 2009, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 21, 2009, 02:55:10 PM
Can we please drop the inter-league play already. 

In a way I like it because I get to see the two teams I grew up watching/going to games duke it out. And while the Angels will always have a place in my heart... I honestly hope the Dodgers kick the crap out of em.  :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 21, 2009, 03:52:09 PM
But without inter-league play, when would the Brewers get to play the Mariners?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 21, 2009, 05:14:37 PM
 :lol: :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 21, 2009, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 21, 2009, 03:52:09 PM
But without inter-league play, when would the Brewers get to play the Mariners?

The World Series?

n/m
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 21, 2009, 05:32:18 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 20, 2009, 05:38:17 PM
The facts are straight though, they haven't developed a decent position player since the mid-90s.  They spend more than 1/2 the league combined and still haven't won a World Series in this decade.


Sure they have... he's currently playing 2B. We've also developed prospects, and then traded them away, like Dioner Navarro and Ross Ohlendorf, who has 5 wins for the horrible Pirates. And in 99 we traded Mike Lowell to the Marlins.

And the spending money line is getting old. Ask any MLB and they would love to play for the Yankees. Why? Because they will do ANYTHING to win, even if it means selling their soul (farm system) to the devil. George and Sons aren't the richest owners in the game, just most competitive. In addition they are smart business people as well. They know how to make money better than anyone.

Now as a Yankee fan, this aspect of the team drives me nuts! I love young talent and do not believe that money can buy championships, building depth does.

So what do your Jays do with them money THEY make from the Yankees?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 21, 2009, 05:45:53 PM
Navarro had one good season.  He's currently hitting .168, maybe less.
Ross Ohlendorf, really?  He's not a position player.
So you traded Mike Lowell who was washed up in Florida but lives off the green monster now.  Color me unimpressed.

Robinson Cano?  He certainly hasn't lived up to his potential.  At this point he's still pretty much a bust.

My Blue Jays probably use some of the revenue sharing money to develop the young pitching that is the envy of Major League Baseball (Cecil's bad start last night notwithstanding).

The Red Sox spend money creatively, and don't give out stupid contracts.

The Yankees give out insanely stupid contracts and have created a 2-tier league where good franchises develop talent but can't afford to even offer arbitration because Joe Strikeout on the Yankees got a stupid contract in the off-season.


Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 21, 2009, 05:56:15 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 21, 2009, 05:45:53 PM
Navarro had one good season.  He's currently hitting .168, maybe less.
Ross Ohlendorf, really?  He's not a position player.
So you traded Mike Lowell who was washed up in Florida but lives off the green monster now.  Color me unimpressed.

Robinson Cano?  He certainly hasn't lived up to his potential.  At this point he's still pretty much a bust.

My Blue Jays probably use some of the revenue sharing money to develop the young pitching that is the envy of Major League Baseball (Cecil's bad start last night notwithstanding).

The Red Sox spend money creatively, and don't give out stupid contracts.

The Yankees give out insanely stupid contracts and have created a 2-tier league where good franchises develop talent but can't afford to even offer arbitration because Joe Strikeout on the Yankees got a stupid contract in the off-season.




Lowell had one bad season in FLA. Ohlendorf should continue to develop. Navarro is still young. Cano is a .300 career hitter. Hard to label a bust. Now that Cashman has the reins, for the most part, the stupid contacts and dumb trades SHOULD be a thing of the past... Although trading Melky and Hughes for Santana looks good now, but at the time I was against it. Plus this Joba guy looks OK. He'll be the closer in a few years though.

I agree the stupid contacts and outrageous spending have created a 2-tier league but ALL the owners that voted against a salary cap are to blame for that.

And your young pitching talent doesn't hold a candle to the A's.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 21, 2009, 06:25:09 PM
I forgot to add that you guys haven't spent a dime, other than signing bonuses, yet on your young talent. They all make league minimum.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 21, 2009, 08:16:52 PM

The Jays don't pay over slot for draft picks either, team policy I guess.

So again, the only players the Yankees have produced in this decade are Navarro and Cano.  Pathetic.

If the Yankees were such a shrewd business they wouldn't be missing out on all that playoff revenue every year would they?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 21, 2009, 08:30:31 PM
The Orioles will have a winning season next year.  The first in 12 years.  You heard it first here.   :roll:   :frustrated:



In all seriousness, not that anyone cares, but I am optomistic with our pitching prospects (considered by many to be among the best in the league) as well as guys like Brandon Snyder and Matt Wieters. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 08:17:45 AM
The O's have the best pitching prospects in the AL East for sure... Snyder is starting to look like a flop though. Don't forget Reimold. He was on a tear in Norfolk before being called up. Wieters should get the call up soon too. Probably after June 10th when he won't be considered Super Two status anymore... thus saving money for guys like Tillman, Erbe, Matusz and Hernandez. The O's future is bright... for once.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 08:23:55 AM
Snider*

You can't be a flop less than 2 months into your rookie season. 

The O's will continue to find ways to lose, and their young pitching doesn't hold a candle to the Jays.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 22, 2009, 08:59:26 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 08:23:55 AM
Snider*

You can't be a flop less than 2 months into your rookie season. 

The O's will continue to find ways to lose, and their young pitching doesn't hold a candle to the Jays.

Ehem, Snyder is currently Batting .353 with 7 HR's and 31 RBI's in double A right now.  That's hardly a flop.  Now, assuming either Montanez and/or Reimold works out, we will have the best outfield in the Majors for a LONG time to come.  Adam Jones is coming into his own as one of the best center fielders in the game and he's only 23.  Nick Markakis speaks for himself.

Now, Matt, I am sorry, but you are wrong about the Jays prospects.  The only two guys in the Blue Jays farm system that are currently on anyone's radar are Travis Snyder and JP Arencibia.  One's an an OF and one's a C.  If you look at our pitchers coming up, Chris Tillman, Brian Matusz and Jake Arrieta, and add Brad Bergesen in there who is currently pitching with the O's, our pitching staff might actually be half way decent in years to come.  The ONLY pitcher I've heard anyone talk about/read about for the Jays is this kid Brett Cecil and he's in the lower 25% of the Top 100 prospects in MLB.   
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 09:14:25 AM
Biased US national media.  Travis Snider is back on the farm now, but he's been with the big club all year.

Jays pitching is deep and talented ~

MLB young & proven starters coming back from the DL:
Shawn Marcum
Dustin McGowan
Jesse Litsch
Casey Janssen

Unproven, in the 2010 plans...
Ricky Romero has already looked awesome at the big league level.
Brett Cecil has been rushed to the bigs but is part of next years plans.  He's looked great outside of one rough start @ Fenway.
Robert/Bobby Ray looks legit, he got ripped off @ Fenway last night

Marc Rzepczynski has been lights out and is apparently also big league ready.

Oh, and we also have the best pitcher in the world.

I see your Nick Markakis and Adam Jones and raise you an Adam Lind and Alex Rios...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 22, 2009, 09:16:12 AM
I'll take AJ and NM over those two any day.   :-D

PS- I LMAO at your new avatar.  I dig it! 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 09:42:47 AM
Wrong Sydner Matt. We are talking about Brandon Synder of the O's. And if you think Lind and Rios, are better than Jones and Markakis you really do live in a box.

Ray projects as a middle reliever/5th starter at best. Romero barley passes as a prospect at 26 and is also destined for the pen. Rzepczynski's sinker and breaking pitches are solid though. Cecil has potential but many scouts say he's an innings eater who projects as a 2 or 3 starter.

Think outside the box please. The AL East is STACKED with pitching prospects. The Jays are MAYBE third best.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 22, 2009, 09:47:37 AM
Quote from: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 09:42:47 AM
Wrong Sydner Matt. We are talking about Brandon Synder of the O's. And if you think Lind and Rios, are better than Jones and Markakis you really do live in a box.

Ray projects as a middle reliever/5th starter at best. Romero barley passes as a prospect at 26 and is also destined for the pen. Rzepczynski sinker and breaking pitches are solid though. Cecil has potential but many scouts say he's an innings eater who projects as a 2 or 3 starter.

Think outside the box please. The AL East is STACKED with pitching prospects. The Jays are MAYBE third best.

I mentioned Travis Snyder in my previous post.  I think that was what he was referring to. 

But, the truth is, teams can have alll of the prospects in the world, but we all know only a few of the group will translate into solid, MLB-calibur players.   
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 09:47:55 AM
Ehem, Snyder is currently Batting .353 with 7 HR's and 31 RBI's in double A right now. 
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I stand corrected. His power outage the last 2 seasons in single-A, a combined 24 HR in 977 AB's, is why I've labeled him a bust. But at 22 he has plenty of time to prove me wrong.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 22, 2009, 09:51:28 AM
Quote from: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 09:47:55 AM


Ehem, Snyder is currently Batting .353 with 7 HR's and 31 RBI's in double A right now. 

Quote
I stand corrected. His power outage the last 2 seasons in single-A, a combined 24 HR in 977 AB's, is why I've labeled him a bust. But at 22 he has plenty oftime to prove me wrong.

Nope, you're right.  Before this season, there was alot of talk that he wasn't going to pan out.  But as stated on the O's website, he has "rehabbed" his value this year.  I watched an interview with him recently (rain delay and there was nothing else on) and he gives alot of credit to his time with the major league players this spring.  He said alot of guys reached out to him and he learned alot.  I've got my fingers crossed! 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 09:51:52 AM
I'm fine with you guys overlooking the Jays pitching, but look at what they're doing in the bigs RIGHT NOW - compared to these other guys you are projecting to be all-stars but are only chewing up AA innings right now...

Ricky Romero was a 1st round pick and will never pitch out of the bullpen - not sure which scouting reports you're reading but they're wrong.






Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 22, 2009, 09:53:17 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 09:51:52 AM
I'm fine with you guys overlooking the Jays pitching, but look at what they're doing in the bigs RIGHT NOW - compared to these other guys you are projecting to be all-stars but are only chewing up AA innings right now...

Ricky Romero was a 1st round pick and will never pitch out of the bullpen - not sure which scouting reports you're reading but they're wrong.

:lol:  I'm not projecting them to be allstars.  I'm just hoping 2/3 of the pitchers pan out. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 09:57:17 AM

What makes no sense is why the O's have never committed to re-building.  The Jays are kinda in the race in August/Sept every year, only one or two great weeks away from making the playoffs.

The O's have had like one good month in the last 5 years, yet continue to employ Melvin Mora, refuse to trade Brian Roberts and seem to "commit" every offseason to re-building the bullpen...

Frankly, I don't really get it.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 09:59:16 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 22, 2009, 09:51:28 AM
Quote from: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 09:47:55 AM


Ehem, Snyder is currently Batting .353 with 7 HR's and 31 RBI's in double A right now. 

Quote
I stand corrected. His power outage the last 2 seasons in single-A, a combined 24 HR in 977 AB's, is why I've labeled him a bust. But at 22 he has plenty of time to prove me wrong.

Nope, you're right.  Before this season, there was alot of talk that he wasn't going to pan out.  But as stated on the O's website, he has "rehabbed" his value this year.  I watched an interview with him recently (rain delay and there was nothing else on) and he gives alot of credit to his time with the major league players this spring.  He said alot of guys reached out to him and he learned alot.  I've got my fingers crossed! 

I hope he pans out. Rumor has it he's a nice kid. I know he's had shoulder problems, but hopefully has turned the corner. To be honest with you... I'm really looking forward to watching the O's in the near future. I just hope they don't screw it up. What are your thought on the gaping hole a SS?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 10:06:26 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 09:51:52 AM
I'm fine with you guys overlooking the Jays pitching, but look at what they're doing in the bigs RIGHT NOW - compared to these other guys you are projecting to be all-stars but are only chewing up AA innings right now...

Ricky Romero was a 1st round pick and will never pitch out of the bullpen - not sure which scouting reports you're reading but they're wrong.



My bad. I was looking at Davis Romero... Although if Rickey doesn't learn to through strikes more often Rickey will be in the pen.

And right now you guys are slowing declining out of 1st place. Good luck finishing above 4th in the AL East this year.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 10:09:05 AM

You clearly didn't watch his first big league starts.  Kid was awesome.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 22, 2009, 10:09:28 AM
Well, we signed Izturis to a 2 or 3 year deal.  He's great in the field; he's won a few gold gloves, but his bat leaves something to be desired to say the least.  Unfortunately, I don't think we have anyone on the farm teams who is projecting to be a major league Short Stop so I wouldn't be surprised if we traded some people.  

And Matt, we commited to rebuilding in 2007 when we hired Andy Macphail as president of baseball operations.  Since he's come on board, we fleeced the Mariners in the Bedard trade and have done pretty well in in the Tejada trade.  He has basically not allowed Angelos to get involved and has moved our focus to developing players rather than overspending on the Sammy Sosa's and Albert Bell's of the world.  Our team, for the first time in years, is heading in the right direction.....  
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 10:09:05 AM

You clearly didn't watch his first big league starts.  Kid was awesome.

1 start means nothing in this game.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 10:17:20 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 22, 2009, 10:09:28 AM
Well, we signed Izturis to a 2 or 3 year deal.  He's great in the field; he's won a few gold gloves, but his bat leaves something to be desired to say the least.  Unfortunately, I don't think we have anyone on the farm teams who is projecting to be a major league Short Stop so I wouldn't be surprised if we traded some people.  

And Matt, we commited to rebuilding in 2007 when we hired Andy Macphail as president of baseball operations.  Since he's come on board, we fleeced the Mariners in the Bedard trade and have done pretty well in in the Tejada trade.  He has basically not allowed Angelos to get involved and has moved our focus to developing players rather than overspending on the Sammy Sosa's and Albert Bell's of the world.  Our team, for the first time in years, is heading in the right direction.....  

Fleeced is putting it lightly. Rape is the first word that comes to my mind! Izturis is a great fielder but that won't cut it in the AL East. I'd like to see the O's draft a few more position players in this years draft.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 10:26:47 AM
Quote from: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 10:09:05 AM

You clearly didn't watch his first big league starts.  Kid was awesome.

1 start means nothing in this game.

No, but 3 great starts is promising.  Again, whatever scouting reports you're reading are wrong - he was very, very good before his DL stint.  If the kid was a Yankee you'd have a major boner (except that you've probably forgotten the feeling because the Yankees don't produce young talent - oh snap!).

After you see what the M's get for Bedard later this year I wonder if you'll still feel like you "fleeced" the Mariners - Sherrill is somewhat serviceable, Adam Jones looks good but the M's could get a signifigant haul for Bedard from a team looking for an ace.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 22, 2009, 10:39:46 AM
Alright dude, Bedard is a prick, a locker room cancer.  He spent the majority of last season on the DL and has already missed a few starts this year.  Sure, he's had a few great games this year, he's always been able to do that.  I don't miss him at all.  There's a reason their GM was fired last year when Bedard wasn't panning out.  The Mariners were taken and everyone in their organization knows it.  Don't get so defensive just because he's a canadian.  I would NOT want him as a teamate.   
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 22, 2009, 10:44:44 AM
PS- and to say Adam Jones "Looks good" is laughable.  If you haven't noticed how much he has improved compared to last year, YOU, my friend, are the one who isn't paying attention.  This kid is only 23 and is going to be a monster for years to come. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 10:46:21 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 10:26:47 AM
Quote from: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 10:09:05 AM

You clearly didn't watch his first big league starts.  Kid was awesome.

1 start means nothing in this game.

No, but 3 great starts is promising.  Again, whatever scouting reports you're reading are wrong - he was very, very good before his DL stint.  If the kid was a Yankee you'd have a major boner (except that you've probably forgotten the feeling because the Yankees don't produce young talent - oh snap!).

After you see what the M's get for Bedard later this year I wonder if you'll still feel like you "fleeced" the Mariners - Sherrill is somewhat serviceable, Adam Jones looks good but the M's could get a signifigant haul for Bedard from a team looking for an ace.



You right we don't produce talent, and I've said this drives me nuts, but I'll take making the playoffs, over producing talent that we would trade away, any day of the week. Do you think any of your "young guns" could pitch in the media frenzy NY and succeed? I didn't think so.

And if you think Jones "looks good" you're blind. He has ALL 5 tools! MLB or Sports Center went as far as to say he's the closest player to Willie Mays currently playing in the bigs.

Baseball Prospectus is rarely wrong about evaluating prospects but only time will tell.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 11:00:11 AM

How many MLB games had Jones played when they made that deal? 

You can't look into a crystal ball and say for sure... if Bedard had been injury free and has a great year and Adam Jones pulls a "Lastings" that deal looks lopsided the other way...  If Bedard can get things on track the M's will get a signifigant haul for him at the deadline - regardless of whether you wanted him on your team.  I'm not saying that wasn't a good deal for the O's, I'm saying it could turn out to be a good deal for the M's too.

Alex Rios has all 5 tools too and the scouts drooled over him for years, don't cream your pants over a couple hot months of Adam Jones d00ds...  and comparing anyone to Willie Mays, well that just screams hype.



Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 11:15:11 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 11:00:11 AM

How many MLB games had Jones played when they made that deal? 

You can't look into a crystal ball and say for sure... if Bedard had been injury free and has a great year and Adam Jones pulls a "Lastings" that deal looks lopsided the other way...  If Bedard can get things on track the M's will get a signifigant haul for him at the deadline - regardless of whether you wanted him on your team.  I'm not saying that wasn't a good deal for the O's, I'm saying it could turn out to be a good deal for the M's too.

Alex Rios has had all 5 tools too and the scouts drooled over him for years, don't cream your pants over a couple hot months of Adam Jones d00ds...  and comparing anyone to Willie Mays, well that just screams hype.





I think you meant to say HAD right? He is a complementary player miscast as a star.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 11:18:46 AM

You think Rios is washed up?  You're ready to put Adam Jones in the Hall of Fame but Rios "miscast as a star"?

His 5 tools just disappeared?  LOL.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 11:24:11 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 11:18:46 AM

You think Rios is washed up?  You're ready to put Adam Jones in the Hall of Fame but Rios "miscast as a star"?

His 5 tools just disappeared?  LOL.


Def not washed up. His HR total, a component of the "5 tools" is declining. At the ripe age of 27 he only hit 15. You need more production from a 5 tool player than that. Atleast he doubled his SB total last year so you have that going for you.

Jones is only in his third year as an OF so yes, his bulb is buring bright than Alex's ever has.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 11:26:47 AM
Are you capable of having a baseball conversation without being so defensive?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 11:33:18 AM
Fair enough, Rios lost his home run stroke after the '07 Home Run Derby.  His swing is still "under construction" but he's certainly not miscast as a star.  Above average speed, defence and probably the best RF arm in the game.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 11:34:21 AM
Quote from: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 11:26:47 AM
Are you capable of having a baseball conversation without being so defensive?

When you have valid points I'll agree with them.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 11:39:29 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 11:33:18 AM
Fair enough, Rios lost his home run stroke after the '07 Home Run Derby.  His swing is still "under construction" but he's certainly not miscast as a star.  Above average speed, defence and probably the best RF arm in the game.

He does a great arm but keep in mind Markakis lead on MLB players last year in outfield assists and theres the Vlad guy in ANA who, when healthy, should register his arm with the ATF!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 22, 2009, 11:41:24 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 11:33:18 AM
Fair enough, Rios lost his home run stroke after the '07 Home Run Derby.  His swing is still "under construction" but he's certainly not miscast as a star.  Above average speed, defence and probably the best RF arm in the game.

Pshaw.....again, Nick Markakis might have something to say about that. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 11:42:45 AM
OF assists are kind of a weird stat - if you have a great arm people don't run on you, and if you play LF @ Fenway Park you can rack 'em up.

I don't know if Vladdy will ever be healthy again.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 22, 2009, 11:43:33 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 11:42:45 AM
OF assists are kind of a weird stat - if you have a great arm people don't run on you, and if you play LF @ Fenway Park you can rack 'em up.

I don't know if Vladdy will ever be healthy again.

agreed.  No one runs on either Rios or Markakis anymore.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 11:51:31 AM
:subject change:

Whats your guys thoughts on young Japanese prospect the Sox signed in the off season?

Junichi Tazawa

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Junichi%20Tazawa&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=547749 (http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Junichi%20Tazawa&pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=547749)

I watched him pitch last week for the Sea Dogs and his stuff looks solid. low-mid 90's heat and a great splitter. Other than 1 bad outing he's been lights out. The Sox do a great job of scouting the Pacific Rim.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 22, 2009, 11:53:17 AM
I don't know enough about him to have an opinion yet.  But everything I've read would lead me to believe he's the real deal. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 12:37:04 PM

Thoughts?

I think that Japanese players should have to go through the draft.  Posting for contracts is absurd and contributes to the 2-tier league.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 12:47:36 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 12:37:04 PM

Thoughts?

I think that Japanese players should have to go through the draft.  Posting for contracts is absurd and contributes to the 2-tier league.



ALL foreign players should have to enter for the draft...and a real birth certificate should be provided as well!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on May 23, 2009, 07:16:24 AM
Tigers have won 7 straight after the debacle in Minnesota!   :banana:  I love it when young pitchers do well, even though some are still showing their age.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on May 23, 2009, 01:11:48 PM
More jay-vee baseball from the O's and Nat's, today. :|
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 23, 2009, 01:13:59 PM
Quote from: cleech74 on May 23, 2009, 01:11:48 PM
More jay-vee baseball from the O's and Nat's, today. :|

But at least we won the Jay-vee game last night!!!!   :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on May 23, 2009, 01:18:31 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 23, 2009, 01:13:59 PM
Quote from: cleech74 on May 23, 2009, 01:11:48 PM
More jay-vee baseball from the O's and Nat's, today. :|

But at least we won the Jay-vee game last night!!!!   :-D

'Cause you were there! :clap: :beers:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 23, 2009, 06:51:07 PM
Tough outing for Lidge today.  :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 24, 2009, 10:39:08 AM
w00t!  :beers:

Your Los Angeles Dodgers have finally broken the 30 win mark (30-14 .682) and are leading the entire NL and AL. They lead the NL  in runs scored, lead both leagues in runs allowed, batting average and earned runs, and lead the closest team in their division by 8.5 games. SI power ranking has them at No. 1 as well.

If they continue like this, it's World Series time come October. Way to go fellas.   :clap:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 24, 2009, 11:17:21 AM
Sooooo......I got to day dreaming at the last O's/Nats game.  I had to do something while no one hit the ball for 5 straight innings, right?   :wink:  Anyway, if you were a Professional Baseball player, playing in your home stadium, what song would you walk out to??? 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 24, 2009, 11:23:47 AM
I've thought about this as well... I'd probably go with Chalkdust due to the "hard rock" sound, or Captain America by moe.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 24, 2009, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 24, 2009, 11:17:21 AM
Sooooo......I got to day dreaming at the last O's/Nats game.  I had to do something while no one hit the ball for 5 straight innings, right?   :wink:  Anyway, if you were a Professional Baseball player, playing in your home stadium, what song would you walk out to??? 

Bring It On Home by Led Zeppelin.   8-)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on May 24, 2009, 10:58:12 PM
Quote from: Rift on May 24, 2009, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 24, 2009, 11:17:21 AM
Sooooo......I got to day dreaming at the last O's/Nats game.  I had to do something while no one hit the ball for 5 straight innings, right?   :wink:  Anyway, if you were a Professional Baseball player, playing in your home stadium, what song would you walk out to??? 

Bring It On Home by Led Zeppelin.   8-)

Hell's Bells

:-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 25, 2009, 05:32:32 AM

Heath Bell comes in to Hell's Bells.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on May 25, 2009, 07:37:02 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 25, 2009, 05:32:32 AM

Heath Bell comes in to Hell's Bells.



Nice.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 25, 2009, 01:29:02 PM
Quote from: Mr Minor on May 24, 2009, 10:58:12 PM
Quote from: Rift on May 24, 2009, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 24, 2009, 11:17:21 AM
Sooooo......I got to day dreaming at the last O's/Nats game.  I had to do something while no one hit the ball for 5 straight innings, right?   :wink:  Anyway, if you were a Professional Baseball player, playing in your home stadium, what song would you walk out to??? 

Bring It On Home by Led Zeppelin.   8-)

Hell's Bells

:-D

Y'know, I thought about that one and then I remembered this...

Quote from: mattstick on May 25, 2009, 05:32:32 AM

Heath Bell comes in to Hell's Bells.


So I figured I'd pick something else.  :wink:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 26, 2009, 08:39:54 PM
Quote
Orioles president of baseball operations Andy MacPhail announced that catching prospect Matt Wieters will be recalled to make his major league debut Friday against the Tigers.

"It's time," MacPhail said. "He's ready." The switch-hitting Wieters, who turns 23 next week, profiles as a middle of the order hitter and will take over as the regular catcher immediately. Ranked by many as the best prospect in baseball heading into the season, Wieters is currently hitting .285/.367/.482 at Triple-A Norfolk. He should be picked up in all fantasy leagues in which he remains available.

:beers:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on May 26, 2009, 11:22:09 PM
Berken got his first ML win , tonight.  He got the "whipcream pie" in the face, in the post-game interview. :lol:

O's minor leaguers are playing well.  Let's hope it will bring some wins for this franchise, in the next few years.

And I know it happened in yesterday's games, but how about Cleveland coming back to beat the Rays 11-10?  All the pitches that were "taken".  That was nuts. :clap:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 27, 2009, 09:27:51 AM
It's about time Wieters got the call but if they were going to wait this long why not wait a few more weeks? It's like the Longoria situation all over again, although the O's have never publicly stated that he was starting the season in the minors for financial reasons.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 09:34:18 AM

Jays are struggling something fierce right now.  It's real tough to watch.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 27, 2009, 09:35:19 AM
Quote from: inourdr on May 27, 2009, 09:27:51 AM
It's about time Wieters got the call but if they were going to wait this long why not wait a few more weeks? It's like the Longoria situation all over again, although the O's have never publicly stated that he was starting the season in the minors for financial reasons.

That's exactly right.  It's like the Longoria and David Price situations.  We keep him down for the first 2 months of the season this year and we get an entire extra season with him before we have to negotiate a new contract.  Either way, I may try and catch Friday's game.  
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 27, 2009, 09:36:49 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 09:34:18 AM

Jays are struggling something fierce right now.  It's real tough to watch.

QFT.  That's what, 7 losses in a row?  Believe me, I am not poking fun.  The O's entire season has been that way.  We have yet to win 3 in a row....  :|  :frustrated:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 09:39:20 AM
It's also why Travis Snider is in Vegas until after the all-star break.  Avoiding "Super Two" status.

8 loses in a row for the Jays.

I have a theory that early in the year they were killing fastballs, as this club hits fastballs really well - the season has progressed and pitchers are more confident with the breaking stuff so the Jays aren't seeing fastballs and are chopping breaking balls into the ground or popping them up. 

I have no explanation why our reliable bullpen is shitting the bed however.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 27, 2009, 10:05:15 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 27, 2009, 09:35:19 AM
Quote from: inourdr on May 27, 2009, 09:27:51 AM
It's about time Wieters got the call but if they were going to wait this long why not wait a few more weeks? It's like the Longoria situation all over again, although the O's have never publicly stated that he was starting the season in the minors for financial reasons.

That's exactly right. It's like the Longoria and David Price situations. We keep him down for the first 2 months of the season this year and we get an entire extra season with him before we have to negotiate a new contract. Either way, I may try and catch Friday's game.  

Yeah, but had they waited a few more weeks he would have lost his "Super 2" status thus making him arbitration eligible for 3 years instead of 4 and saving the O's a fist full of cash. Granted we won't know if he qualifies as a Super 2 until the end of the season but with this call up it's a most likely scenario.

If you're not familiar with the Super 2 tag here's a good article that outlines it well.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/05/super-twos.html (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/05/super-twos.html)

With that being said, I think they called him up now instead of waiting because he's been on fire lately and 3 of the 5 SP's started the season in AAA.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 27, 2009, 10:07:27 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 09:39:20 AM
It's also why Travis Snider is in Vegas until after the all-star break.  Avoiding "Super Two" status.

8 loses in a row for the Jays.

I have a theory that early in the year they were killing fastballs, as this club hits fastballs really well - the season has progressed and pitchers are more confident with the breaking stuff so the Jays aren't seeing fastballs and are chopping breaking balls into the ground or popping them up. 

I have no explanation why our reliable bullpen is shitting the bed however.

I feel your pain, bro. Remember when the Dodgers absolutely choked towards the end of last season? Starting off a 9 game skid by losing to the Nationals... I thought I was going to lose my head. But they pulled it off at the very end and came out strong. That is, until they met the Phillies post-season.  :-P
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 10:17:45 AM

Doesn't take much to start a run of bad luck - a couple bad hops and the Jays are 3-5 on this road trip instead of 0-8.

It's sad to watch Vernon Wells miss balls he used to catch, and he doesn't dive anymore which also sucks.  It's time for him to move to RF and Rios should move to CF.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 27, 2009, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 10:17:45 AM
It's sad to watch Vernon Wells miss balls he used to catch, and he doesn't dive anymore which also sucks.  It's time for him to move to RF and Rios should move to CF.

I couldn't agree more with you.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on May 27, 2009, 12:43:13 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 09:34:18 AM

Jays are struggling something fierce right now.  It's really tough special to watch.
You know!! as a fan of the best team in baseball...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 27, 2009, 04:59:03 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on May 27, 2009, 12:43:13 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 09:34:18 AM

Jays are struggling something fierce right now.  It's really tough special to watch.
You know!! as a fan of the best team in baseball...

You're a Dodger fan too, Poster?  :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on May 27, 2009, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: Rift on May 27, 2009, 04:59:03 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on May 27, 2009, 12:43:13 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 09:34:18 AM

Jays are struggling something fierce right now.  It's really tough special to watch.
You know!! as a fan of the best team in baseball...

You're a Dodger fan too, Poster?  :-D
LOL!! nope,.. just the manager...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 27, 2009, 05:43:37 PM
O's win/Sweep Jays!!!!!   :beers:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 05:58:24 PM
9 in a row - only 2 games out of first.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 27, 2009, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 05:58:24 PM
9 in a row - only 2 games out of first.

Dude, it's our first 3 game win streak this year.  Let me have my moment in the sun.   :-D

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on May 27, 2009, 06:03:33 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 05:58:24 PM
9 in a row - only 2 games out of first.
Just happened to be checking out StatTracker earlier and seen that game in progress... It was 8 - 5 Bluejays up... and with in 2 minutes I watched the score of that game go from 8 - 3 to 8 - 8 in the 8th inning... I was like man!.. Ouch!!! So I send Matt a +k for his pain...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on May 27, 2009, 08:01:52 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 27, 2009, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 05:58:24 PM
9 in a row - only 2 games out of first.

Dude, it's our first 3 game win streak this year.  Let me have my moment in the sun.   :-D



Yeah! :-P :beers:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 27, 2009, 08:30:35 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 27, 2009, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 05:58:24 PM
9 in a row - only 2 games out of first.

Dude, it's our first 3 game win streak this year.  Let me have my moment in the sun.   :-D



Congrats... It only took you guys 47 games.   :lol:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 09:17:59 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on May 27, 2009, 06:03:33 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 05:58:24 PM
9 in a row - only 2 games out of first.
Just happened to be checking out StatTracker earlier and seen that game in progress... It was 8 - 5 Bluejays up... and with in 2 minutes I watched the score of that game go from 8 - 3 to 8 - 8 in the 8th inning... I was like man!.. Ouch!!! So I send Matt a +k for his pain...

Sucks for Roy Halladay who could easily be 10-1 at this point.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 28, 2009, 12:48:29 AM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on May 27, 2009, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: Rift on May 27, 2009, 04:59:03 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on May 27, 2009, 12:43:13 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 09:34:18 AM

Jays are struggling something fierce right now.  It's really tough special to watch.
You know!! as a fan of the best team in baseball...

You're a Dodger fan too, Poster?  :-D
LOL!! nope,.. just the manager...

No way!  :-o

Well, Mr. Torre, I must give props for so far having an excellent season. And as much as I know you guys shelled out big time for Manny... do we really need him back? I think you're doing just fine without him.

Keep up the good work, Poster. Err, um, I mean Joe.  :wink: :wink: :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 28, 2009, 09:04:07 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 09:17:59 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on May 27, 2009, 06:03:33 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 27, 2009, 05:58:24 PM
9 in a row - only 2 games out of first.
Just happened to be checking out StatTracker earlier and seen that game in progress... It was 8 - 5 Bluejays up... and with in 2 minutes I watched the score of that game go from 8 - 3 to 8 - 8 in the 8th inning... I was like man!.. Ouch!!! So I send Matt a +k for his pain...

Sucks for Roy Halladay who could easily be 10-1 at this point.

QFT.  The guy is a top 5, maybe top 3 pitcher in all of MLB.  


That said, Luke Scott pwns him on a consistent basis.   :-P 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 09:06:59 AM

You should correct yourself.  He is consistantly the best pitcher in the world.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 28, 2009, 09:08:22 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 09:06:59 AM

You should correct yourself.  He is consistantly the best pitcher in the world.

:lol:

Ok, he is consitently the best pitcher in the world.  I would say he is def. the most intimidating. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 09:10:36 AM

If you need a win and your bullpen is taxed, is there anyone else you want starting?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 28, 2009, 09:13:16 AM
It's to bad he'll never get the chance to pitch in the post season. :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 28, 2009, 09:13:58 AM
ouch.....
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 09:16:43 AM

We lost 9 in a row and we're 1.5 games out of first.

I haven't written the wildcard off this year, don't sleep on the '09 Jays.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 28, 2009, 09:17:12 AM
I'm just messing. There is no other pitcher I'd take in game 1 of a playoff series... maybe Santana, but most likely Roy.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 28, 2009, 09:19:46 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 09:16:43 AM

We lost 9 in a row and we're 1.5 games out of first.

I haven't written the wildcard off this year, don't sleep on the '09 Jays.

I admire your optimism Matt.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 09:24:02 AM

This is a solid team, and nobody in the AL has a better record since June 20 last year.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 28, 2009, 09:33:30 AM
I agree, your team is solid but every team is AL East has lost/added players since last season so best record in the AL since June means nothing. Plus last year you had BJ when he wasen't a mess and a career year from AJ... who we overpaid for.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 09:38:46 AM
AJ is a .500 pitcher, we could pick up Paul Byrd for $400K right now and he could be .500 for us...

Young teams win nowadays, the Rays and Phillies both had great young teams last year...  Signing vets to big contracts hasn't produced a winner in years.

And BJ was a mess last year.  Not a giant shitty mess like his now, but a mess regardless.  No one likes a sloppy BJ.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 28, 2009, 09:46:08 AM
AJ was 38-26 for you guys...and the Phillies are not that young. In fact the Yankess have a lower  average age than the Phillies and the Jays this year.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 28, 2009, 09:47:41 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 09:38:46 AM
AJ is a .500 pitcher, we could pick up Paul Byrd for $400K right now and he could be .500 for us...

Young teams win nowadays, the Rays and Phillies both had great young teams last year...  Signing vets to big contracts hasn't produced a winner in years.

And BJ was a mess last year.  Not a giant shitty mess like his now, but a mess regardless.  No one likes a sloppy BJ.

:-D

awesome.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 09:48:48 AM
The Phils infield is young...

The Yankees are relying on aging vets more than either the Phils or Jays.

re: AJ, he had a career year in an opt-out year of his contract, before that he was certainly no better than .500.

I would set his over/under on games above .500 with the Yankees over the course of his contract at 4 and probably take the under.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 28, 2009, 09:56:02 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 09:48:48 AM
The Phils infield is young...

The Yankees are relying on aging vets more than either the Phils or Jays.

re: AJ, he had a career year in an opt-out year of his contract, before that he was certainly no better than .500.

I would set his over/under on games above .500 with the Yankees over the course of his contract at 4 and probably take the under.

Whats your definition of young? Utley is 30, Rollins is 30, Howard is 29, Feliz is 33, Catcher...who cares.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 09:59:20 AM

Combined that's somewhat young, and when you've got Rollins, Utley and Howard who cares who is playing third...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 28, 2009, 10:19:01 AM
anyone see Zambrano get tossed?  Dude needs to chill out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwzj4fDE8dg
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 28, 2009, 12:24:40 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 28, 2009, 10:19:01 AM
anyone see Zambrano get tossed?  Dude needs to chill out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwzj4fDE8dg

He's looking at a hefty suspension for throwing the ball into the stands. Idiot.

edit: Attempt to throw the ball into the stands.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 28, 2009, 12:33:32 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 09:16:43 AM

We lost 9 in a row and we're 1.5 games out of first.

I haven't written the wildcard off this year, don't sleep on the '09 Jays.

Every team has slumps/slides during the regular season. It's still May too. We have a little way to go until October. And your point about being 1.5 games out of first shows that the Sox and Yanks haven't exactly been impressive this year. I think the Jays are just getting their losing funk out of the way early in the season.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 28, 2009, 01:16:40 PM
Keep in mind the Jays have only played 12 games against teams in the AL East (6 of those against the O's), arguable the toughest division in the AL, 10 fewer than the Sox and Yanks.

I don't write any team off in May but would be surprsied if they make the post season.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 01:34:26 PM

Historically (last few seasons), the Jays have played .500 within the AL East, but really botched things up against the central, and on west coast trips.

This year they've done very well against the central and looked good out west.  One reason I'm still hopeful/positive.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 28, 2009, 01:40:41 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 01:34:26 PM

Historically (last few seasons), the Jays have played .500 within the AL East, but really botched things up against the central, and on west coast trips.

This year they've done very well against the central and looked good out west.  One reason I'm still hopeful/positive.

I didn't even notice the 16-8 against the Central. Nice one.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 02:44:21 PM

lol
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 02:44:45 PM

lol again

(http://www.walkoffwalk.com/homo.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 28, 2009, 03:58:42 PM
WTF. When did ball players turn into pansies.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 04:13:33 PM
We had the discussion about at-bat or bullpen entry music... checkit..

http://www.bugsandcranks.com/davidchalk/fernando-perez-writes-good-has-good-taste-in-music/

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 28, 2009, 04:29:27 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 04:13:33 PM
We had the discussion about at-bat or bullpen entry music... checkit..

http://www.bugsandcranks.com/davidchalk/fernando-perez-writes-good-has-good-taste-in-music/



It's nice to read something from a guy who "gets it". 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on May 28, 2009, 04:48:03 PM
The only team in the AL east that I'm counting out is the (sorry Antelope)... I mean you still can't count out the Rays they still have a really good team nearly all around if they get some mid season momentum going and I'm still not even close to being ready to wright off the Bluejays... The Yankees are turning up the heat, although at the moment they're weak in bullpen... and the Soxs still look solid... Its The Al Beast again... and its gonna be a tough season for all the teams in that division...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 28, 2009, 04:53:17 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on May 28, 2009, 04:48:03 PM
The only team in the AL east that I'm counting out is the (sorry Antelope)... I mean you still can't count out the Rays they still have a really good team nearly all around if they get some mid season momentum going and I'm still not even close to being ready to wright off the Bluejays... The Yankees are turning up the heat, although at the moment they're weak in bullpen... and the Soxs still look solid... Its The Al Beast again... and its gonna be a tough season for all the teams in that division...

:-D  It's cool.  I wrote'em off before the season even started.  It was never about this season anyway.  Everything we're doing at the moment is for 2011 and to a lesser extent, next season. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 28, 2009, 05:12:24 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 28, 2009, 04:13:33 PM
We had the discussion about at-bat or bullpen entry music... checkit..

http://www.bugsandcranks.com/davidchalk/fernando-perez-writes-good-has-good-taste-in-music/



Good read. check out Paul Shirley's stuff on ESPN. His taste in music is a little more mainstream but a good read none the less.

http://search.espn.go.com/paul-shirley/
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2009, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: inourdr on May 28, 2009, 12:24:40 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 28, 2009, 10:19:01 AM
anyone see Zambrano get tossed?  Dude needs to chill out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwzj4fDE8dg

He's looking at a hefty suspension for throwing the ball into the stands. Idiot.

edit: Attempt to throw the ball into the stands.

That was amazingly funny.  I'm glad that happened.  Epic meltdown!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on May 29, 2009, 01:35:11 PM
They did a "Top 10 Meltdowns" today on sportscenter.  Milton Bradley made the list TWICE!!!!   :-o  The number one was the minor league manager who totally lost it and used the rosin bag as a grenade.  Remember that guy?   :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CCga0nbG8
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on May 29, 2009, 02:03:11 PM
I love the part of the Zamby meltdown when he is ejected, and then he ejects the umpire...

...and then proceeds to destroy the Gatorade machine!

HA.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on May 29, 2009, 05:24:15 PM
O's on a 4 game win streak... longest since June 17-20 2008. Keep it up.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 29, 2009, 05:30:24 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on May 29, 2009, 01:35:11 PM
They did a "Top 10 Meltdowns" today on sportscenter.  Milton Bradley made the list TWICE!!!!   :-o  The number one was the minor league manager who totally lost it and used the rosin bag as a grenade.  Remember that guy?   :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CCga0nbG8

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/dead_ahead/hysterical.gif)

Classic! That guy makes the old days of Billy Martin's blowups look like child's play.

+k for the laugh 'lope.  :clap:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on May 29, 2009, 10:45:12 PM
Got this off of my player sidenotes from our week4paug fantasy league... The basterd is on my team... Ouch!!

QuoteZambrano has been suspended for six games for his tirade this week during Wednesday's game against the Pittsburgh Pirates.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on May 29, 2009, 10:47:11 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on May 29, 2009, 10:45:12 PM
Got this off of my player sidenotes from our week4paug fantasy league... The basterd is on my team... Ouch!!

QuoteZambrano has been suspended for six games for his tirade this week during Wednesday's game against the Pittsburgh Pirates.

yeah but it's only one start so it's not too terrible.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on May 29, 2009, 10:51:59 PM
Quote from: blatboom on May 29, 2009, 10:47:11 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on May 29, 2009, 10:45:12 PM
Got this off of my player sidenotes from our week4paug fantasy league... The basterd is on my team... Ouch!!

QuoteZambrano has been suspended for six games for his tirade this week during Wednesday's game against the Pittsburgh Pirates.

yeah but it's only one start so it's not too terrible.
Thats cool... wasn't sue how they would work that...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on May 30, 2009, 01:32:15 AM
So, before the first pitch of tonight's Tigers vs O's game, Matt Wieters went 10 for 10 at the plate, threw out 22 base stealers, and got the O's middle relief 16 wins/saves.  Or one might think this is true, considering the HYPE he's generated in the Baltimore media, in the last few days. :roll:

Wieters actually went 0'fer with the bat in his debut, but the O's did win their 7th, of the last 8 games they've played. Go O's ! :-) :clap:

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on May 30, 2009, 08:26:03 AM

Jays Win!
Jays Win!
Jays Win!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on May 30, 2009, 09:57:44 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 30, 2009, 08:26:03 AM

Jays Win!
Jays Win!
Jays Win!

And allowed the Yankees to take over 1st in the AL East.  At least for today.  Looks like another typical season in the East, should be fun to see whose left standing at the end of the season.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Rift on May 30, 2009, 05:49:26 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 30, 2009, 08:26:03 AM

Jays Win!
Jays Win!
Jays Win!

:clap:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on June 03, 2009, 09:09:03 AM
Solid outing by Halladay last night. 14K CG. Not bad. Glad he's on my fantasy team!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mehead on June 03, 2009, 08:33:54 PM
He's been money for years - too bad he's stuck in Toronto...ne needs to get outta there
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on June 03, 2009, 08:37:07 PM

F--- You.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on June 03, 2009, 08:41:55 PM
"I thought we played a little tentative and scared because of who was on the mound. We go into it thinking this guy is, like, the best pitcher in baseball, and we're going to score one run if we're lucky."
- Joe Saunders

"He just keeps getting better and better. The first five or six innings, I don't know if we had a loud foul ball off him. He was as good as any pitcher we've seen with command of both sides of the plate.

"We put something together in the seventh inning with some good at-bats with runners in scoring position. Then he just turned off the faucet again and finished the game."
- Mike Scioscia

"No one says it, you just kind of get that feeling as a pitcher. You know, 'I'm facing Roy Halladay today, if I give up a run I might lose.' It puts added pressure on me and added pressure on the team to do whatever they can and for me to do whatever I can."
- Joe Saunders

"We checked a couple [called strike outs] on video. Those pitches were put right where he wanted them."
- Mike Scioscia

"He's the best there is in the game right now."
- Torii Hunter

"When I saw he was going back out there, I knew the Angels we're going to be in trouble."

"For me, it's fun, because I know I'm going to go out there and see one of the best pitchers of my generation."
- Rod Barajas

"It was just one of those innings where you find yourself behind and you're making some borderline pitches and you follow with some bad pitches."

"You just get yourself in a hole. But I tried to keep the same approach the whole game. The big thing was just getting ahead."
- Roy Halladay

"Doc stays in shape, he'll be back in here tomorrow working on being stronger for his next game. I wish I was in shape like that."

"He told me he was fine, he was feeling strong. He might get his rhythm off here and there but he gets it back and pitches well."

"Most guys wouldn't have got out of that inning probably with four runs. But great pitchers just seem to find a way to get out of it, or reach back and get a little bit more, and make better pitches and get themselves out of it. That's what he did."'
- Cito Gaston

"I have a lot of trust in those guys [in the bullpen]. I've had for the last [several years], and I'd gladly turn it over to them, but when you get the chance to finish, you always want to do that."
- Roy Halladay

"To a lot of guys the pitches that are coming in they look like balls and I'm sure they go and look at the videos and the pitches aren't exactly where they thought they were going to end up. He's got so much late movement, late life. What he's able to do with that baseball it's like playing a video game for me."

"You put that target down and away or you put that target in and you know the man's going to execute his pitches. He's some kind of special."
- Rod Barajas

"We're doing different things now, kind of throwing everything to both sides which at times will give you a lot more takes and swings and misses. That probably has more to do with it than anything."

"Stuff-wise I still feel good but being able to do different things and kind of change the way you pitch is essential if you're going to stay around a long time."
- Roy Halladay

"He was a doctor today. You have got to give it to him. He had surgery on all of us."
- Torii Hunter
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on June 04, 2009, 09:43:52 AM
Quote from: mattstick on June 03, 2009, 08:41:55 PM

"He was a doctor today. You have got to give it to him. He had surgery on all of us."
- Torii Hunter

Great quote by Tori. I'm gonna have to throw that one in the memory bank. I've been a fan of Halladay's since the mid 90's.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on June 04, 2009, 10:06:29 AM
Speaking of pitching, there was some great performances yesterday... Billingsley, Lee, Niemann, Beckett, Weaver... Good day to be a pitcher.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on June 04, 2009, 10:08:36 AM
I stayed up to watch the O's game only to see them lose it in the bottom of the 9th.  It was almost 1AM!  Bastards!!!!!!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on June 04, 2009, 10:42:04 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on June 04, 2009, 10:08:36 AM
I stayed up to watch the O's game only to see them lose it in the bottom of the 9th.  It was almost 1AM!  Bastards!!!!!!

Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes, well, he eats you.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on June 04, 2009, 01:25:40 PM
Quote from: inourdr on June 04, 2009, 10:42:04 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on June 04, 2009, 10:08:36 AM
I stayed up to watch the O's game only to see them lose it in the bottom of the 9th.  It was almost 1AM!  Bastards!!!!!!

Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes, well, he eats you.

that some sort of Eastern thing?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on June 04, 2009, 02:13:50 PM
Quote from: blatboom on June 04, 2009, 01:25:40 PM
Quote from: inourdr on June 04, 2009, 10:42:04 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on June 04, 2009, 10:08:36 AM
I stayed up to watch the O's game only to see them lose it in the bottom of the 9th.  It was almost 1AM!  Bastards!!!!!!

Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes, well, he eats you.

that some sort of Eastern thing?

It's a quote from a movie. What I was getting at is that, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: GBL on June 04, 2009, 03:51:08 PM
obviously im a twins fan, but how SICK has Joe Maurer been so far this year?

since he came off the DL, he has to be the #1 performer in fantasy baseball

i smell MVP
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on June 04, 2009, 03:53:47 PM

I smell 10 years/$200 million with the Red Sox in 2010.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on June 04, 2009, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: mattstick on June 04, 2009, 03:53:47 PM

I smell 10 years/$200 million with the Red Sox in 2010.
Sad but true...   :|
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: GBL on June 04, 2009, 04:01:55 PM
Quote from: mattstick on June 04, 2009, 03:53:47 PM

I smell 10 years/$200 million with the Red Sox in 2010.

ehhh...

SER tho he could end up being the greatest catcher to ever play the game, he obv has the potential..
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on June 04, 2009, 04:02:22 PM
The good news, at least from my POV, is that given the huge money that they're paying JD Drew and the pending huge amount that they want to pay Mauer, they may not have the money (or flexibility) to extend Jason Bay with the contract he deserves.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on June 04, 2009, 04:09:13 PM
Quote from: inourdr on June 04, 2009, 02:13:50 PM
Quote from: blatboom on June 04, 2009, 01:25:40 PM
Quote from: inourdr on June 04, 2009, 10:42:04 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on June 04, 2009, 10:08:36 AM
I stayed up to watch the O's game only to see them lose it in the bottom of the 9th.  It was almost 1AM!  Bastards!!!!!!

Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes, well, he eats you.

that some sort of Eastern thing?

It's a quote from a movie. What I was getting at is that, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

yeah I know, it's from the Big Lebowski.  "is that some sort of Eastern thing?" is what The Dude says to the cowboy.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on June 04, 2009, 04:25:51 PM
Quote
NEW YORK (AP)—Yankees pitcher A.J. Burnett(notes) was suspended six games Thursday for throwing high-and-tight to Texas' Nelson Cruz(notes) earlier this week.

Burnett appealed the penalty, which had been set to take effect immediately. He can continue to pitch until a hearing is held.

"You kind of expect something to happen when the ball comes that close," Burnett said before New York played the Rangers in the series finale.

Burnett said it was the first time he'd been suspended. He seemed a bit surprised by the severity, and said his first reaction when told was: "Really?"

Burnett sailed a fastball near the head of Cruz during a 12-3 win Tuesday night. Earlier in the game, Texas' Vicente Padilla(notes) twice hit Mark Teixeira(notes) with pitches.

Both Burnett and Padilla were fined undisclosed amounts by Major League Baseball.

Cruz had homered earlier, and plate umpire Doug Eddings warned both teams after Burnett's pitch sailed past Cruz.

"That's a fastball in, man, whether it got knocked down or not," Burnett said after the game. "I mean, that's where it's going.

"Warnings are warnings, man. ... You've still got to go about your business and pitch in, don't pitch in."

Said Teixeira after it was over: "I think there was a little message sent."

Padilla said he did not mean to plunk Teixeira.

"The answer is that it's stupid if he thinks it was an intentional pitch," he said through a translator after the loss.

Burnett is 4-2 with a 4.69 ERA in 11 starts.

Padilla is 3-3 with a 5.57 ERA in nine starts. He has hit seven batters, second in the AL to Boston knuckleballer Tim Wakefield(notes).

There were reports Wednesday night that the Rangers had released Padilla, but Texas assistant general manager Thad Levine said no move had been made. Padilla was in uniform before the game, and is scheduled to start Sunday at Boston.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on June 04, 2009, 04:35:08 PM
Quote from: blatboom on June 04, 2009, 04:09:13 PM
Quote from: inourdr on June 04, 2009, 02:13:50 PM
Quote from: blatboom on June 04, 2009, 01:25:40 PM
Quote from: inourdr on June 04, 2009, 10:42:04 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on June 04, 2009, 10:08:36 AM
I stayed up to watch the O's game only to see them lose it in the bottom of the 9th.  It was almost 1AM!  Bastards!!!!!!

Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes, well, he eats you.

that some sort of Eastern thing?

It's a quote from a movie. What I was getting at is that, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

yeah I know, it's from the Big Lebowski.  "is that some sort of Eastern thing?" is what The Dude says to the cowboy.

Serious brain fart on my part.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on June 04, 2009, 04:40:51 PM
Quote from: GBL on June 04, 2009, 04:01:55 PM
Quote from: mattstick on June 04, 2009, 03:53:47 PM

I smell 10 years/$200 million with the Red Sox in 2010.

ehhh...

SER tho he could end up being the greatest catcher to ever play the game, he obv has the potential..

IMHO I see him bound for a corner position, mostly likely 1B, due to his height. Which sucks because I really like the way he calls and manages the game. The daily grind of catching can take it's tolls on ones knees.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on June 04, 2009, 04:53:49 PM
Quote from: inourdr on June 04, 2009, 04:40:51 PM
Quote from: GBL on June 04, 2009, 04:01:55 PM
Quote from: mattstick on June 04, 2009, 03:53:47 PM

I smell 10 years/$200 million with the Red Sox in 2010.

ehhh...

SER tho he could end up being the greatest catcher to ever play the game, he obv has the potential..

IMHO I see him bound for a corner position, mostly likely 1B, due to his height. Which sucks because I really like the way he calls and manages the game. The daily grind of catching can take it's tolls on ones knees.

Same thing will happen to Wieters.  That's assuming he starts hitting better than .150.   :frustrated:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on June 09, 2009, 09:16:51 AM
Phish/Yankees fan plants grass at Fenway.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06092009/news/regionalnews/yank_fan_put_green_monster_in_fenway_173278.htm (http://www.nypost.com/seven/06092009/news/regionalnews/yank_fan_put_green_monster_in_fenway_173278.htm)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on June 09, 2009, 09:50:56 AM
Quote from: inourdr on June 09, 2009, 09:16:51 AM
Phish/Yankees fan plants grass at Fenway.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06092009/news/regionalnews/yank_fan_put_green_monster_in_fenway_173278.htm (http://www.nypost.com/seven/06092009/news/regionalnews/yank_fan_put_green_monster_in_fenway_173278.htm)

:lol:
Yankees fans, lol.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on June 09, 2009, 09:53:12 AM
Quote from: Mr Minor on June 09, 2009, 09:50:56 AM
Quote from: inourdr on June 09, 2009, 09:16:51 AM
Phish/Yankees fan plants grass at Fenway.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/06092009/news/regionalnews/yank_fan_put_green_monster_in_fenway_173278.htm (http://www.nypost.com/seven/06092009/news/regionalnews/yank_fan_put_green_monster_in_fenway_173278.htm)

:lol:
Yankees fans, lol.

QFT
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on June 09, 2009, 10:10:30 AM
I personally love the quote "my curse is working" by Castignoli. Um, standings and Papis' sub .200 avg... yeah, it's working alright! :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on June 09, 2009, 04:33:31 PM
For those of you in fantasy leagues you might want to pick up Ryan Madson if you are in need of saves.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090609&content_id=5225354&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090609&content_id=5225354&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on June 11, 2009, 07:55:21 AM
Verlander is the man.  Dude can pitch.  If you don't think so you are delusional.  He was throwing 96, 97, and 98 on the third out in the 9th inning last night.  He was placing pitches wherever he wanted to throughout the game.  He is a beast.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: flow00 on June 11, 2009, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: Mr Minor on June 11, 2009, 07:55:21 AM
Verlander is the man.  Dude can pitch.  If you don't think so you are delusional.  He was throwing 96, 97, and 98 on the third out in the 9th inning last night.  He was placing pitches wherever he wanted to throughout the game.  He is a beast.

Hell, yea. He's on fire. He had a bad start to the year and a bad year last year. But he changed his attitude. Before every game, he gets angry and sees every batter as an enemy. It has worked because he hasn't lost since April. Edwin Jackson, who is pitching tonight, also is very good. Unfortunately the Tigers can't get consistent help from their other three pitchers. But I think the Tigers will easily take the Central.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on June 12, 2009, 11:50:03 AM
Quote from: flow00 on June 11, 2009, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: Mr Minor on June 11, 2009, 07:55:21 AM
Verlander is the man.  Dude can pitch.  If you don't think so you are delusional.  He was throwing 96, 97, and 98 on the third out in the 9th inning last night.  He was placing pitches wherever he wanted to throughout the game.  He is a beast.

Hell, yea. He's on fire. He had a bad start to the year and a bad year last year. But he changed his attitude. Before every game, he gets angry and sees every batter as an enemy. It has worked because he hasn't lost since April. Edwin Jackson, who is pitching tonight, also is very good. Unfortunately the Tigers can't get consistent help from their other three pitchers. But I think the Tigers will easily take the Central.

That's what I tried to tell folks at the beginning of the year, but they were all saying Twins.  It's all Tigers.  :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on June 12, 2009, 11:57:20 PM
The Mets lose to the Yankees like that?  Really?   :frustrated:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on June 13, 2009, 08:56:48 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on June 12, 2009, 11:57:20 PM
The Mets lose to the Yankees like that?  Really?   :frustrated:

After the Boston debacle we'll take it.   :roll:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: sls.stormyrider on June 26, 2009, 11:34:59 PM
watch out.
Papi is back.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on June 26, 2009, 11:47:04 PM
Quote from: slslbs on June 26, 2009, 11:34:59 PM
watch out.
Papi is back.

on Roids?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: sls.stormyrider on June 27, 2009, 12:05:21 AM
anything is possible
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on June 27, 2009, 09:04:53 AM
Quote from: mattstick on June 26, 2009, 11:47:04 PM
Quote from: slslbs on June 26, 2009, 11:34:59 PM
watch out.
Papi is back.

on Roids?

:lol:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 02, 2009, 01:45:07 PM
So maybe I was wrong about this Rickey Romero kid. :frustrated: Other than his 2 starts in May he hasn't given up more than 3 runs in a game. I'll be the first to admit when I'm wrong, and I was definitely wrong here! I hope he keeps it up. He's fun to watch pitch and should make the AL that much more exciting.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on July 05, 2009, 06:48:56 PM
I know everyone here hates the Yankees because they're, I don't know - Satan or whatever, but how 'bout Derek Jeter ?  Can anyone here recognize ?

Thank you, that is all.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on July 05, 2009, 07:41:15 PM
Quote from: bonebo on July 05, 2009, 06:48:56 PM
I know everyone here hates the Yankees because they're, I don't know - Satan or whatever, but how 'bout Derek Jeter ?  Can anyone here recognize ?

Thank you, that is all.

Fuck Derek Jeter

Thank you, that is all.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Bobafett on July 05, 2009, 08:47:42 PM
I can recognize a douche-bag anyday.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on July 05, 2009, 08:53:40 PM
Wow, you guys are angry fans huh ?   :shakehead: My condolences to y'all.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on July 05, 2009, 09:23:22 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 05, 2009, 07:41:15 PM
Quote from: bonebo on July 05, 2009, 06:48:56 PM
I know everyone here hates the Yankees because they're, I don't know - Satan or whatever, but how 'bout Derek Jeter ?  Can anyone here recognize ?

Thank you, that is all.

Fuck Derek Jeter

Thank you, that is all.

:lol:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: bonebo on July 05, 2009, 09:36:57 PM
I thought Yankees fans were bad, geez.   :beers:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: sls.stormyrider on July 05, 2009, 11:50:51 PM
The pinstripes bring out the worst in people
players, Yankee fans, and Yankee haters.


as a lifelong Yankee hater, I actually like Jeter. He's a winner change that - clutch player.
(no ring in 9 years  :evil:)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 06, 2009, 08:14:22 AM
Quote from: inourdr on July 02, 2009, 01:45:07 PM
So maybe I was wrong about this Rickey Romero kid. :frustrated: Other than his 2 starts in May he hasn't given up more than 3 runs in a game. I'll be the first to admit when I'm wrong, and I was definitely wrong here! I hope he keeps it up. He's fun to watch pitch and should make the AL that much more exciting.

Respek!

Jays 2010 AL East Champs.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 06, 2009, 08:15:03 AM

Jeter = Big Cypress.

Solid, but way overrated.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on July 06, 2009, 09:13:28 AM
Quote from: mattstick on July 06, 2009, 08:15:03 AM

Jeter = Big Cypress.

Solid, but way overrated.

I do not like the Yankees, but I have a soft spot for Jeter.  Played basketball against him in high school.  He lived across town from me.  I should find his picture.  Dude has the funniest fro-like hair. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 06, 2009, 09:24:33 AM
Quote from: mattstick on July 06, 2009, 08:14:22 AM
Quote from: inourdr on July 02, 2009, 01:45:07 PM
So maybe I was wrong about this Rickey Romero kid. :frustrated: Other than his 2 starts in May he hasn't given up more than 3 runs in a game. I'll be the first to admit when I'm wrong, and I was definitely wrong here! I hope he keeps it up. He's fun to watch pitch and should make the AL that much more exciting.

Respek!

Jays 2010 AL East Champs.

Ser? Do you honestly think the Jays will win the AL East next year? Maybe wild card, and that's a stretch. Only time will tell though, they could be the next Rays.

And why all the hate for Jeter? If it was A-Rod, I'd understand, but Jeter has always been one of the most classy players in the game... And he's not overrated... Maybe from a Fantasy prospective but the man is solid. You stay classy Paugers.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 06, 2009, 10:04:07 AM

That's apparently the organizational plan for the Jays - compete in '10.

Remember we have an entire pitching staff on the DL right now - in 2010 we should have 2 more young aces back - Marcum & McGowan, along with Halladay and now Romero, fill in that 5th spot with one of Cecil or Mills or Richmond or Litsch...

Then add another year of development for Travis Snider and Adam Lind.

I don't know if they can win the division but hopefully they won't burn out by June like this year.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on July 07, 2009, 10:12:42 AM
Quote
Blue Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi said Sunday that he's willing to listen to offers for right-hander Roy Halladay.

It's the first time Ricciardi has publicly admitted that his ace is on the block. "We have to see what's out there," said the GM. "I'm not saying we're going to shop him. But if something makes sense, we at least have to listen. We're (leaning) more toward listening than we've ever been." It's going to take a large package of prospects, but the Jays can expect several phone calls.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 07, 2009, 10:33:18 AM

Much ado about nothing - of course he'll take offers, that's kind of his job.

Doesn't mean they have any intention of trading him.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on July 07, 2009, 10:36:35 AM
Quote from: mattstick on July 07, 2009, 10:33:18 AM

Much ado about nothing - of course he'll take offers, that's kind of his job.

Doesn't mean they have any intention of trading him.

yeah, but it's still interesting that this is the first time he's come out publicly about this.  IMO, he'd be foolish to turn down a similar deal to the one the Orioles/Mariners did a few years back, if he can get one.  Just promise me you won't trade him to the yanks.   :-D 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 07, 2009, 10:40:19 AM

The Yankees don't have the prospects to pull off a deal for a top-tier SP, they didn't when Santana was available and they don't now.

I doubt you'll see him moved anywhere in the AL East.

I doubt he'll be moved at all.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mehead on July 07, 2009, 10:43:50 AM
when is he due for free agency?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 07, 2009, 10:49:49 AM
After next season.  But the Jays will trade or re-sign him before the end of 2010.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mehead on July 07, 2009, 11:02:16 AM
he's in a gots to go situation..if he makes it to free agency w/ toronto I don't see him re-signing w/ them..he's a money pitcher and he deserves to go to a contender..toronto is foolish if they don't trade him
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 07, 2009, 11:05:19 AM
The Jays have had two seasons under .500 in THIS DECADE.  The notion that they aren't a contendor is stupid.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 07, 2009, 11:22:24 AM
Baseball Tonight last night also mentioned that they might trade Scott Rolen or Alex Rios so they can make a run at the title next season as well as building for the future. I like the way Ricciardi is running the Jays.. he learned a lot working for Billy Beane.

Did anyone else catch baseball tonight last night? Ironically they discussed the Jays young pitching and them making a run at the AL East next season, The O's 2011 pitching and Gammon's called Jeter the classiest player in baseball... Sound familiar?

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 07, 2009, 11:25:50 AM
Quote from: mehead on July 07, 2009, 11:02:16 AM
he's in a gots to go situation..if he makes it to free agency w/ toronto I don't see him re-signing w/ them..he's a money pitcher and he deserves to go to a contender..toronto is foolish if they don't trade him

If he does leave the Jays via free agency they get a supplemental pick in 2011...not a good as a trade, but it's better than nothing.

Edit: Assuming they offer him arbitration or he signs before Dec. 1st.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 07, 2009, 11:31:05 AM

Unless the Yankees sign an insane number of free agents again, we got screwed over losing AJ Burnett and not getting a 1st round sandwich pick.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 07, 2009, 11:33:00 AM
Quote from: mattstick on July 07, 2009, 11:31:05 AM

Unless the Yankees sign an insane number of free agents again, we got screwed over losing AJ Burnett and not getting a 1st round sandwich pick.

Did the Jays offer him arbitration? I don't remember.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 07, 2009, 11:34:22 AM

Yes. But the 1st round supplemental picks went to LAA and Milwaukee for CC & Tex, I guess there are only so many 1st round supplemental picks.  It's confusing as fuck, imo.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 07, 2009, 11:37:26 AM
I hate this website but they do a nice job of outlining MLB Compensatory Draft Pick System.

http://wiki.soxprospects.com/MLB+Compensatory+Draft+Pick+System (http://wiki.soxprospects.com/MLB+Compensatory+Draft+Pick+System)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mehead on July 07, 2009, 12:09:02 PM
when was the last time the jays were in the playoffs?  they've had him for how long now and what have they done w/ him?  2 things - Jack and Squat
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 07, 2009, 12:21:11 PM

The Rays and Phillies were in the World Series last year, when was the last time they had been there?

All it takes is one season.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: OlfactoryHue on July 07, 2009, 12:25:20 PM
lets go phils!

way to lace the reds for 22... keep it up offense
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: GBL on July 08, 2009, 06:29:48 PM
Jays released Ryan today..

What hapened to that guy? He was DOMINANT! Then he went to the Jays...   :roll:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 08, 2009, 07:25:53 PM

He had 1.5 good seasons over a 2-year span with the Jays.

His herky-jerky motion lead to arm injuries, arm injuries lead to a drop in velocity, now all he does is throw low-80s with no movement.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 08, 2009, 07:57:23 PM
^^^ Is that including 2007... when he was on the DL for, almost, all of the year?   :evil:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 08, 2009, 08:12:55 PM

No, 2006 he was awesome.  2008 he was injured for the first part of the year, then came back and was dominant again.  68 saves over those 2 seasons.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on July 09, 2009, 09:03:44 AM
Releasing Ryan is gonna cost the Jays $15 Million.  Ouch.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 09, 2009, 02:04:23 PM
I was having a conversation at lunch with friends about MVP, Cy Young and Rookie of Year awards at the half way mark.

here's my picks:

AL:
MVP - Torii Hunter
CY – Zack Greinke
ROY – Rickey Romero

NL:
MVP – Albert Pujols
CY – Tim Lincecum
ROY - Colby Rasmus

End of Season Projections

AL:
MVP – Joe Mauer
CY – Roy Halladay (Greinke if Doc is traded to the NL)
ROY - Nolan Reimold

NL:
MVP – Albert Pujols
CY – Tim Lincecum
ROY - Andrew McCutchin

Whats are your guys?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on July 09, 2009, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: inourdr on July 09, 2009, 02:04:23 PM
I was having a conversation at lunch with friends about MVP, Cy Young and Rookie of Year awards at the half way mark.

here's my picks:

AL:
MVP - Torii Hunter
CY – Zack Greinke
ROY – Rickey Romero

NL:
MVP – Albert Pujols
CY – Tim Lincecum
ROY - Colby Rasmus

End of Season Projections

AL:
MVP – Joe Mauer
CY – Roy Halladay (Greinke if Doc is traded to the NL)
ROY - Nolan Reimold

NL:
MVP – Albert Pujols
CY – Tim Lincecum
ROY - Andrew McCutchin

Whats are your guys?

I can agree with most of your picks.  It'll be interesting to see if Reimold can keep it up!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 10, 2009, 03:17:12 PM
Quote
Halladay And The AL East
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 10 at 1:14pm CST]
The Red Sox phoned the Blue Jays about Roy Halladay, according to Joe McDonald of the Providence Journal. Jon Heyman hears that the Jays are reluctant to deal within the AL East, but they'll have the option to. McDonald reports that the Red Sox and Yankees are on a list of teams Halladay has told the Jays he would accept trades to. The Blue Jays are scouting "all minor league levels" of the Yankees and Red Sox, according to McDonald.

McDonald says the Rays also phoned the Blue Jays. It's unlikely the Rays would make a play for Halladay, as they have little money to spend. However, as Marc Lancaster of the Tampa Tribune reports, they likely won't have to make in-season payroll cuts.


The Yankees are talking to the Jays about a potential deal, but Heyman says not even the Yanks think they'll actually make it happen.


Blue Jays fans, who haven't cheered on a playoff team since Joe Carter touched 'em all in 1993, would generally be infuriated by an intra-divisional trade.

I'd be shocked if he's even traded this year but rumors are always fun. My guess is Philly or the Dodgers if he is traded.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 10, 2009, 03:18:18 PM

I would trade him to the Dodgers for Russell Martin & Clayton Kershaw.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 10, 2009, 03:30:26 PM
Although that would be nice it would never happen. Plus Martin worries me... his numbers this year have been aweful, for him atleast. I would replace him with Ivan De Jesus, one of baseballs top SS prospects.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 10, 2009, 03:34:20 PM

I understand Kershaw is untouchable.

Martin has come around a little lately, I think.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: flow00 on July 10, 2009, 03:45:51 PM
Here are my picks with second place added.

AL:
MVP – Joe Mauer (Miguel Cabrera)
CY – Greinke (Halladay)
ROY – Rick Porcello (Nolan Reimond)

NL:
MVP - Albert Pujols (Hanley Ramirez)
CY – Tim Lincecum (Dan Haren)
ROY – Ronald Belisario (Andrew McCutchin)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 10, 2009, 04:00:31 PM
Quote from: mattstick on July 10, 2009, 03:34:20 PM

I understand Kershaw is untouchable.

Martin has come around a little lately, I think.


Have they said he's untouchable? If I'm the Dodgers I'd trade Kershaw, plus a prospect, for Halladay.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 10, 2009, 04:03:40 PM

I believe so, yeah.

That won't get the deal done, imo.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: GBL on July 10, 2009, 06:33:44 PM
Quote from: flow00 on July 10, 2009, 03:45:51 PM
ROY – Rick Porcello (Nolan Reimond)

No way RP get its.. One hot month doesnt = ROY in my view

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: flow00 on July 10, 2009, 07:26:20 PM
Quote from: GBL on July 10, 2009, 06:33:44 PM
Quote from: flow00 on July 10, 2009, 03:45:51 PM
ROY – Rick Porcello (Nolan Reimond)

No way RP get its.. One hot month doesnt = ROY in my view



He had a hot month, followed by some bad games, followed by a comeback in his last four or five games. If he can stay confident in the last half of the season, he's capable. His ERA is decent, and it will improve.

Disclosure: I am a Tigers fan, hence the Cabrera pick as second for MVP. But there's no player in baseball who is more underrated than Cabrera. And he didn't make the All Stars. If not for an injury that made him go 1 for 20, he'd have a .350 batting average, backed up with lots of power.
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Post by: inourdr on July 10, 2009, 08:10:03 PM
I like the Porcello pick. He had a bad stretch but has been VERY good when pitching well.
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Post by: mattstick on July 10, 2009, 08:19:41 PM

Romero > Porcello
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Post by: inourdr on July 10, 2009, 08:44:10 PM
Agree... for now.
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Post by: mattstick on July 11, 2009, 12:01:13 PM

Great story with Jonathan Sanchez tossing that no-hitter last night.  I fell asleep listening to the game  :cry:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Giants-Jonathan-Sanchez-tosses-unlikely-no-hitt?urn=mlb,175991
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Post by: inourdr on July 11, 2009, 02:57:54 PM
Nice story. Great no-no. Most people in fantasy leagues didn't even have him in their lineups.
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Post by: Bobafett on July 11, 2009, 03:30:57 PM
Mets...lol.  fuck. :shakehead:
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Post by: antelope19 on July 15, 2009, 10:41:25 AM
I read that the Phils signed Pedro and then immediately put him on the 15 day DL.  At first, I thought, WTF?  But then realized they probably want him to have a few minor league starts before they bring him in.....
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Post by: Bobafett on July 15, 2009, 12:15:34 PM
and Halladay...i hate the fucking phillies
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Post by: mattstick on July 16, 2009, 10:34:17 AM
I feel like my girlfriend has discovered that she's really in love with someone else, but hasn't decided to break my heart yet...






http://taoofstieb.blogspot.com/2009/07/on-roy-halladay-and-persistence-of.html

On Roy Halladay and the Persistence of Change

If there's one thing we've come to understand in life, it's that change is absolutely persistent. Relentless, even.

As much as we might want to stop the bejeweled movements of the clock and stay the hands of time, it's an excercise in futility. The valiantly foolish attempts that people make to maintain the status quo and perpetuate what was once good often end up in a patchwork of pratfalls and, ultimately, failure.

It happens in all walks of life. On a personal level, people maintain relationships and friendships out of nostalgia, continuing to nurture the same set of acquaintances even after they've moved on in every other way. Businesses attempt to burnish their reputations by continuing to celebrate their past glories, even as their customers move on to newer and better things.

In the case of the Blue Jays, one need only look at the gargantuan contract to which they signed "face of the franchise" Vernon Wells to understand how pushing back on change can result in the team overpaying for past glories and delaying the process of replenishing and restocking the franchise with new and emerging talent.

So it is with this in mind that we turn our gaze towards Roy Halladay, and the unprecedented maelstrom of trade rumours surrounding him after GM J.P. Ricciardi's tepid admission that the team would "listen" to offers for the greatest pitcher in the history of the franchise.

Obviously, there's been a lot of ink spilled and bandwidth consumed over the past week over the prospects of trading Halladay before the season's end, and we're not sure how much we have to add to the hand-wringing and resignation that was contained therein. We shared the reaction of many Blue Jays bloggers and commenters who found themselves emotionally unable to conceive of the team without Halladay, and had we commented on this ourselves last week, we're sure that it would have come off as an agonized cry of Plathian platitudes.

Maybe we're getting resigned to the idea, or maybe we're steeling ourselves for what will surely come to pass. But you have to know that at some point, Roy Halladay will no longer pitch for the Toronto Blue Jays.

The romantic in us always hoped that Doc would take his final walk off the mound in a Blue Jays jersey at the end of a Hall of Fame career. But if it comes to pass that Halladay - like Delgado, or Hentgen, or Key, or Stieb, or Alomar before him - moves on by his own choice to another franchise, we have to understand that eventuality not as a failure on the part of the team, but as a passage from one era to the next.

At this point, Roy Halladay's profile has never been higher, and it absolutely behooves the team to look at every possibility that they have to capitalize on the perceived value that the hurler has, and the possible return that they could receive in exchange for him. It would be irresponsible for them to not do so, and as much as it will break our heart to see him sporting another uniform, the franchise will go on without him.

It's instructive to remember the example of the 2001 Seattle Mariners, who in successive seasons traded Randy Johnson and Ken Griffey and lost Alex Rodriguez to free agency, only to turn around and win 116 games without any of those "face of the franchise" cornerstones. The possibility exists that the foundation of next great Blue Jays team - the one we've waited for since 1993 - is waiting for us, just the other side of this potential Halladay trade.

Trading for prospects is always a dicey proposition, of course, but no more so than it is to hold firm on keeping the hometown hero and hoping that he continues to produce at the same high level. In the next year, Halladay could very well lose a bit of velocity or movement, or he could throw out his back picking up one of his kids. Or he could slice open a finger on a model helicopter blade. Or he could throw one (or 100) cutters too many, leaving him a shadow of his former self. There are no guarantees that if the Jays hold on to Halladay that they'll continue to enjoy the current vintage for the forseeable future.

Losing Halladay is a tough thing to swallow for the beleaguered Blue Jays fanbase (such as it is), but we have to accept that with time, we were going to lose him anyway, either to time, injury, or to the inevitable change that occurs over the course of a franchise's narrative.

It's not that we want to see him go. But it all reminds us of a line from the Clive Owen movie Croupier: "Hang on tightly. Let go lightly."
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Post by: inourdr on July 16, 2009, 11:02:42 AM
Quote from: mattstick on July 16, 2009, 10:34:17 AM
I feel like my girlfriend has discovered that she's really in love with someone else, but hasn't decided to break my heart yet...

Look at the bright side... You'll get atleast 3 or 4 hotties to keep you warm at night.  :-D

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Post by: mattstick on July 17, 2009, 08:46:50 AM
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Post by: GBL on July 21, 2009, 01:24:03 PM
Twins, lol..

Atleast Justin Morneau helped my fantasy team start out the week on the right foot
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Post by: antelope19 on July 22, 2009, 04:23:37 PM
Quote
Red Sox acquired first baseman Adam LaRoche from the Pirates for SS Argenis Diaz and RHP Hunter Strickland.

The Pirates did well to score a couple of young players for LaRoche, a free agent after this season. The 29-year-old first baseman will find playing time on days that Mike Lowell (hip, calf) needs rest, with Kevin Youkilis sliding over to third base. His fantasy value takes a hit because he may only start three or four games a week, but he shouldn't have been on many mixed league rosters in the first place. Despite some reports to the contrary, no cash was sent over from Pittsburgh. The Red Sox are on the hook for his remaining $2.95 million.
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Post by: antelope19 on July 23, 2009, 02:57:19 PM
Quote
According to Blue Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi, Roy Halladay told the team that he would test free agency when his contract runs up after the 2010 season.

This would explain why the club is so open to dealing one of the league's premier pitchers. "What's changed is Roy has told us that he's going to test the free-agent market," Ricciardi said in a radio interview with The FAN590. The Blue Jays want a decision on a Halladay trade by July 28. Many teams have been linked to trade negotiations involving Toronto's ace, including the Phillies, Brewers, Dodgers, Cardinals, White Sox, Rangers, Red Sox and Yankees.


:-o
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Post by: mattstick on July 23, 2009, 03:07:10 PM

No surprise there, he took an extension once and wants to test the market as the best pitcher in MLB.

That July 28 deadline is 2 days before the real deadline so JP can swing more deals for 2 days if he is able to deal Halladay.

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Post by: antelope19 on July 23, 2009, 04:14:21 PM
Mark Buehrle pitched a perfect game today against the Rays.   DAMN!!!!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 23, 2009, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 23, 2009, 04:14:21 PM
Mark Buehrle pitched a perfect game today against the Rays.   DAMN!!!!

just saw it. Could be the hardest thing to do in any sport IMO.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on July 23, 2009, 04:23:07 PM
Quote from: inourdr on July 23, 2009, 04:15:35 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 23, 2009, 04:14:21 PM
Mark Buehrle pitched a perfect game today against the Rays.   DAMN!!!!

just saw it. Could be the hardest thing to do in any sport IMO.

Agreed.  ATM, I can't think of anything off the top of my head that would be considered more difficult.  
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Post by: G. Augusto on July 23, 2009, 04:26:30 PM
You guys see that catch?!

I have him on both of my Fantasy teams... 8-)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on July 23, 2009, 04:31:10 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on July 23, 2009, 04:26:30 PM
You guys see that catch?!

I have him on both of my Fantasy teams... 8-)

Nah, I missed the game/catch.  You may have him on your team, but the real question is....did you start him?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Superfreakie on July 23, 2009, 04:44:07 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on July 23, 2009, 04:26:30 PM
You guys see that catch?!

I have him on both of my Fantasy teams... 8-)

He owes Wise more than a few beers. Not like there aren't any bats in Tampa either.....sick performance.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 23, 2009, 04:45:31 PM
QuoteSI.com's Jon Heyman reports the Cards are "seriously pursuing"  Matt Holliday, possibly for Brett Wallace.

We'll see if it pans out but this could push the Brew Crew to sell the farm for Halladay.
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Post by: antelope19 on July 23, 2009, 04:49:26 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on July 23, 2009, 04:44:07 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on July 23, 2009, 04:26:30 PM
You guys see that catch?!

I have him on both of my Fantasy teams... 8-)

He owes Wise more than a few beers. Not like there aren't any bats in Tampa either.....sick performance.

Is it safe to assume you're being sarcastic?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 23, 2009, 04:51:51 PM
The dude I'm playing against this week didn't start Buehrle!!!
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Post by: Superfreakie on July 23, 2009, 05:12:01 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 23, 2009, 04:49:26 PM
Quote from: Superfreakie on July 23, 2009, 04:44:07 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on July 23, 2009, 04:26:30 PM
You guys see that catch?!

I have him on both of my Fantasy teams... 8-)

He owes Wise more than a few beers. Not like there aren't any bats in Tampa either.....sick performance.

Is it safe to assume you're being sarcastic?

:roll:
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Post by: blatboom on July 23, 2009, 07:38:55 PM
I'm thinking a Rolex for Wise at the very least.
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Post by: Undermind on July 23, 2009, 09:30:35 PM
It's the hardest thing that I can think of in sports.  Here's all 27 outs.


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Post by: Superfreakie on July 24, 2009, 12:48:19 AM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Saaaaaaaaawwwweeeeeet.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 24, 2009, 08:54:46 AM
^^^ X2
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Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on July 24, 2009, 11:50:25 AM
I just got a sweet ass old school Milwaukee Brewers logo spoon bowl.

Pics to come.
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Post by: inourdr on July 24, 2009, 11:56:25 AM
Some interesting stats on Buehrle's no-no.

Quote• Mark Buehrle is the 25th person to throw multiple no-hitters, and the 18th to toss a perfect game. (We're startin' easy here. It gets goofier.)

• Buehrle is the only pitcher to throw two no-hitters this decade. Hideo Nomo and Randy Johnson threw the second no-hitters of their careers in the Aughts, adding to their respective no-nos from the '90s.

• He is now one of six perfect-game pitchers to throw at least one other no-hitter: Randy Johnson, Sandy Koufax, Jim Bunning, Addie Joss, and Cy Young.

• The last person to throw two no-hitters over a three-season span was Nolan Ryan, who accomplished this more than a few times, most recently in 1991, when his seventh no-hitter came less than a year over his sixth.

• With Buehrle's gem, the White Sox are now the third team in baseball history to win two perfect games. Charlie Robertson had one against the Detroit Tigers in 1922. The Cleveland Indians did this first, when Joss tossed his game in 1908 for the then-named Cleveland Naps, and Len Barker threw one in 1981 for the Indians. The Yankees were the second team to brag about this meaningless stat, thanks to the Pitchers David in 1998 and '99, Mr. Wells and Mr. Cone, respectively.

• The offense for the White Sox was mostly supplied by Josh Fields's grand slam in the second inning, the first time a bases-clearing homer occurred in a perfect game.

• The last time a grand slam was hit in a no-hitter was ... why, Buehrle's last no-hitter in 2007, when Jermaine Dye slammed one. He was in the lineup yesterday, but went 0-for-4. You have to go all the way back to 1973 when Jeff Burroughs of the Texas Rangers hit one in Jim Bibby's no-no against the A's, 6-0.

• Tampa Bay had never been part of a perfect game in their history. Now that they have, only the Orioles, Royals, and Mariners have been left out of witnessing such a game firsthand, either being the victors or victims.

• One of the quirkiest stats being thrown around was the umpire for both of Buehrle's no-hitters (Eric Cooper). But my favorite meaningless stat is this: yesterday was the first time Ramon Castro caught Buehrle's game, making it the first time a pitcher and catcher made a perfect game the first time they played together.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 24, 2009, 12:19:22 PM
ESPN.com's Buster Olney reports that the deal is complete. The A's will contribute $1.5MM to the remainder of Holliday's salary, which leaves the Cards with about $4.5MM.
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Post by: mattstick on July 24, 2009, 12:54:59 PM

I don't like Holliday, but hope he contributes for the Cards.
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Post by: inourdr on July 24, 2009, 02:18:54 PM
He's a little over rated IMO. This trade is huge however because the NL Central is a tight race right now and should make the Brewers more aggressive in their pursuit of Halladay. Sounds like they are willing to part with Mat Gamel (3B) and Alcides Escobar (SS) which, I think, would be more appealing to the Jays. You guys are stocked with young pitching and solidifying the left side of the infield for years to come would be a good move for them. I always love this time of year!
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Post by: mattstick on July 24, 2009, 02:22:25 PM

I would take that trade in a second if I were JP.

Then deal Rolen, and maybe even Rios for more young talent.
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Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on July 24, 2009, 02:47:05 PM
Quote from: inourdr on July 24, 2009, 02:18:54 PM
He's a little over rated IMO. This trade is huge however because the NL Central is a tight race right now and should make the Brewers more aggressive in their pursuit of Halladay. Sounds like they are willing to part with Mat Gamel (3B) and Alcides Escobar (SS) which, I think, would be more appealing to the Jays. You guys are stocked with young pitching and solidifying the left side of the infield for years to come would be a good move for them. I always love this time of year!


The Brew Crews farm system isn't deep enough for them to have enough to trade presently.

As sad as that makes me.
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Post by: antelope19 on July 28, 2009, 01:15:58 PM
Quote
Reds not giving up on Rolen — 11:51 a.m.
The Reds haven't ruled out acquiring Toronto third baseman Scott Rolen, one major league source indicated Monday night.

But like a lot of things in baseball, those talks hinge on one man whom the Cincinnati Reds aren't pursuing in the least.

You know, Roy Halladay.

"Toronto," the source said, when asked about the Rolen talks, "is still busy with Halladay."
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 28, 2009, 01:20:30 PM

Apparently they offered us Edwin Encarnacion... lol
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on July 28, 2009, 01:21:49 PM
 :-D  Uggh, that's total garbage, IMO.  They're gonna have to do better than that.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on July 28, 2009, 01:22:36 PM
Oh, and can you write your GM to convince him NOT to trade Halladay within the division? 

K
Thanx
Bai

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Undermind on July 28, 2009, 01:26:49 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 28, 2009, 01:22:36 PM
Oh, and can you write your GM to convince him NOT to trade Halladay within the division? 

K
Thanx
Bai



except to the Sox!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 28, 2009, 01:31:45 PM
While Rolen has some trade value right now you're not going to get much for him.  

He's such a joy to watch that I'd rather see him play next year than trade him right now.  Amazing D, solid bat - a real man's man too.  Took my girlfriend to her first Jays game and we sat right on the 3B bag in the 2nd row, I think she's in love (with Scott, not me).

If we get Buchholz and/or Bard from the Red Sox, we'll have to take it - but hopefully he'll only stay in the AL East for 2010 then move to the NL where he will clearly dominate.
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Post by: mattstick on July 28, 2009, 01:36:41 PM

Ed Price of AOL Fanhouse tweets that the Dodgers "are in hard on" Orioles closer George Sherrill. The O's, in turn, have been looking at LHP prospect Scott Elbert, "but have reservations about him." Elbert missed just about the entire 2007 season with shoulder surgery, but has recovered nicely to strike out 20 batters in 17.1 big league innings.
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Post by: antelope19 on July 28, 2009, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: mattstick on July 28, 2009, 01:36:41 PM

Ed Price of AOL Fanhouse tweets that the Dodgers "are in hard on" Orioles closer George Sherrill. The O's, in turn, have been looking at LHP prospect Scott Elbert, "but have reservations about him." Elbert missed just about the entire 2007 season with shoulder surgery, but has recovered nicely to strike out 20 batters in 17.1 big league innings.

Hmmmmmm......that's interesting.  I don't know how I feel about that.  We have a plethora of pitching prospects but are in serious need of a 1st and 3rd baseman.  Not to mention, if we lose Sherrill, who the hell is gonna close for us.  I will not second guess Andy Macphail.  He has made some great trades for us thus far and has turned this franchise in the right direction for the first time in a dozen years. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 28, 2009, 10:48:21 PM
Quote9:11pm: Gordon Edes at Yahoo has a pretty big update on the discussions. It appears the Red Sox have amped up their efforts to obtain the Doc, and they're willing to include Buchholz, one of Lars Anderson, Justin Masterson or Michael Bowden, and lesser prospects to fill out the rest of the offer.

Wow. Just Wow.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on July 29, 2009, 02:05:34 PM
A few deals have been made today:

Quote
Mariners acquired SS Jack Wilson and RHP Ian Snell from the Pirates for SS Ronny Cedeno, C Jeff Clement and RHPs Aaron Pribanic, Brett Lorin and Nathan Adcock

Wilson will immediately take over as the starting shortstop in Seattle. He'll be playing in more of a pitcher's park, but it's not like Jack has any power left in his bat. Snell might turn out to be the real catch. He has absolutely dominated since his demotion to Triple-A and will do well in Safeco Field -- behind a crop of good defenders. It might not be a playoff-worthy push for the M's, but they're not exactly losers in the deal either. Then again, the Pirates' farm system just got a whole lot younger and a whole lot more talented.

Quote
Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com reports that the Phillies have reached agreement on a deal to acquire Cliff Lee from the Indians.

Assuming there are no snags in the pending review of medical records, the Indians would acquire Single-A right-hander Jason Knapp, Triple-A right-hander Carlos Carrasco, shortstop Jason Donald and catcher Lou Marson in exchange for Lee and outfielder Ben Francisco. Lee's ERA and WHIP could take a slight hit in the move to hitting-friendly Philadelphia, but any losses in those categories would be offset by increased win potential for the left-hander, who is 7-9 with a 3.14 ERA on the season.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on July 29, 2009, 02:09:28 PM

Can we just mandate that Ben Francisco be traded to San Francisco, for the sake of the fans.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on July 29, 2009, 02:12:01 PM
Quote from: mattstick on July 29, 2009, 02:09:28 PM

Can we just mandate that Ben Francisco be traded to San Francisco, for the sake of the fans.

:-D  I'd be ok with this....
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Post by: mattstick on July 29, 2009, 02:51:31 PM

Dear Phillies,

When you don't make the playoffs, or lose in the playoffs because Cliff Lee is just an above-average pitcher, please remember that you had a chance to get Roy Halladay  - the best pitcher in baseball - but you didn't want to part with Kyle Drabek.

All the best,

Jays fans.
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Post by: inourdr on July 29, 2009, 03:08:54 PM
^^^  :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: Superfreakie on July 29, 2009, 03:14:48 PM
Quote from: mattstick on July 29, 2009, 02:51:31 PM

Dear Phillies,

When you don't make the playoffs, or lose in the playoffs because Cliff Lee is just an above-average pitcher, please remember that you had a chance to get Roy Halladay  - the best pitcher in baseball - but you didn't want to part with Kyle Drabek.

All the best,

Jays fans.

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:


This could possibly help or hurt the Jays. For now, I would imagine the front runner would be Boston (maybe Dodgers) which would then draw in the Yankees, as Halladay would be their greatest fear. Now while this would mean Halladay would wind up in the same division, the goods received in return would be far greater than had he gone to the Phillies due to the haggling between the "powers" and as such just may allow for a nice re-tooling. Let's face it, the Jays can't compete in the Sox/Yankees free agent game, so to remain competitive they have little option but to follow the Rays template, lots of young guns coming out of their farm system balanced with "sane" trading.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: art vandelay on July 30, 2009, 12:26:04 PM
Quote from: mattstick on July 29, 2009, 02:51:31 PM

Dear Phillies,

When you don't make the playoffs, or lose in the playoffs because Cliff Lee is just an above-average pitcher, please remember that you had a chance to get Roy Halladay  - the best pitcher in baseball - but you didn't want to part with Kyle Drabek.

All the best,

Jays fans.

dear mattsick,

im sorry you want something to brag about just because the blue jays suck.

all the best,

world fucking champions.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 30, 2009, 04:04:01 PM
QuoteBy Ken Gurnick / MLB.com

07/30/09 3:37 PM ET

ST. LOUIS -- The Dodgers shored up their bullpen Thursday by acquiring Orioles closer George Sherrill in exchange for two prospects, third baseman Josh Bell and pitcher Steve Johnson, according to baseball sources.

Sherrill can serve as a set-up man, or share the closer role with Jonathan Broxton.

The Dodgers still are hoping to acquire a starting pitcher and are rumored to still be pursuing Toronto's Roy Halladay.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on July 30, 2009, 04:05:07 PM
I just came in here to post the same thing!  You beat me to it.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: G. Augusto on July 30, 2009, 04:06:13 PM
Who is gonna close for the O's?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on July 30, 2009, 04:08:06 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on July 30, 2009, 04:06:13 PM
Who is gonna close for the O's?
You'll know after I pick him up on the waiver wire.   :-P

EDIT: seriously though, I gotta think it's gonna be either Jim Johnson or Danys Baez.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 30, 2009, 04:13:40 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on July 30, 2009, 04:08:06 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on July 30, 2009, 04:06:13 PM
Who is gonna close for the O's?
You'll know after I pick him up on the waiver wire.   :-P

EDIT: seriously though, I gotta think it's gonna be either Jim Johnson or Danys Baez.

Neither of which you want on a fantasy baseball team.  :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on July 30, 2009, 04:18:58 PM
Blurbs about the 2 prospects we just picked up....

Quote
Steven Johnson, RHP, Dodgers (Double-A Chattanooga)
Monday's stats: 6 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 7 K
A 13th-round pick in 2005 and the son of former big leaguer and Orioles broadcaster Dave Johnson, Steven has taken a slow-but-steady rise through the Dodgers system. He has taken a big step forward this year, striking out 102 in 96.2 innings for High-A Inland Empire and now 15 in 10 2/3 frames over his first two Double-A starts. He's not a monster by any stretch, but his fastball and breaking ball both rate a tick above average and there's some deception to his delivery. Scouts think he could fit in the back of the rotation when all is said and done.

Quote
Josh Bell, 3B, Dodgers (Double-A Chattanooga)
A fourth-round pick in 2005, Bell has always combined impressive tools with good/not-great performances due to a poor approach. Things have changed considerably for him this year, as his walk rate is way up, his strikeout rate is way down, and that combination is rarely seen suddenly only after a player reaches the upper levels. The exciting thing is that the bat is beginning to explode as well; by going 12-for-21 in his last six games with four doubles and pair of home runs, he's now batting .297/.388/.500. No wonder his name is suddenly coming up quite a bit in trade rumors
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: GBL on July 31, 2009, 03:05:47 PM
Moves, moves, and more moves:

Jerrod Washburn to Detroit

Orlando Cabrera to Minnesota

Victor Martinez to Boston - Kangfirm'd
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on July 31, 2009, 04:26:14 PM
Peavy to the White Sox... pending his approval.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: GBL on July 31, 2009, 04:29:56 PM
Quote from: inourdr on July 31, 2009, 04:26:14 PM
Peavy to the White Sox... pending his approval.

LOL!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on July 31, 2009, 04:32:42 PM
Rolen to Cinci
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: GBL on July 31, 2009, 04:35:41 PM
Quote from: blatboom on July 31, 2009, 04:32:42 PM
Rolen to Cinci

QuoteOAKLAND -- Blue Jays have reached an agreement to send third baseman Scott Rolen to the Reds, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com. Rolen would have to waive his no-trade clause to approve the deal.

FOXSports.com reported the Blue Jays will receive third baseman Edwin Encarnacion and a Minor League player in return.

The 34-year-old Rolen -- a seven time Gold Glove Award winner -- is hitting .320 with a .370 on-base percentage, eight homers and 43 RBIs in 88 games for the Blue Jays this season. Rolen is under contract for $11 million this season and $11 million in 2010.

Reds general manager Walt Jocketty and Rolen go back to their days with the Cardinals and, prior to being dealt to Toronto by St. Louis two winters ago, the third baseman spent the first 12 years of his career in the National League.

Blue Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi was not immediately available for comment.

Jordan Bastian is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

Quote from: mattstick on July 28, 2009, 01:20:30 PM
Apparently they offered us Edwin Encarnacion... lol
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: GBL on July 31, 2009, 04:59:41 PM
Quote from: GBL on July 31, 2009, 04:29:56 PM
Quote from: inourdr on July 31, 2009, 04:26:14 PM
Peavy to the White Sox... pending his approval.

LOL!

LOL'd

QuoteCHICAGO -- The White Sox acquired right-handed pitcher Jake Peavy from the Padres on Friday in exchange for left-handers Aaron Poreda and Clayton Richard and right-handers Dexter Carter and Adam Russell.

Two months after the two teams agreed to what is believed to be a similar trade, only to have Peavy use his no-trade clause to scuttle the deal, Peavy agreed to this particular trade.

Peavy was 6-6 with a 3.97 ERA and 92 strikeouts in 13 starts this season with the Padres. Peavy, the 2007 National League Cy Young Award winner, has been on the disabled list since June 13 with a strained tendon in his right ankle. At the time he went on the disabled list, Peavy ranked among the NL leaders in starts (tied for first), strikeouts (third) and opponents batting average (eighth, .228).

He is expected to be able to return as early as late August.

Richard, the only player who was on the White Sox Major League roster, was 4-3 with a 4.65 ERA in 26 games (14 starts) this season and had been scheduled to start Friday night's game against the Yankees at U.S. Cellular Field.

Jesse Temple is an associate reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: sls.stormyrider on August 02, 2009, 05:24:17 PM
another pitcher's duel at Camden Yards
:roll:

10 pitchers total between both teams
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: cleech74 on August 02, 2009, 07:13:45 PM
Quote from: slslbs on August 02, 2009, 05:24:17 PM
another pitcher's duel at Camden Yards
:roll:

10 pitchers total between both teams

Painful to watch.  The O's are, once again, striving for last place in the AL East. :frustrated:

And to think that a few weeks ago, I told Mattstick that the Jays were on the road to finishing behind the O's.  Silly me.  What was I thinking?

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on August 04, 2009, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: cleech74 on August 02, 2009, 07:13:45 PM
Quote from: slslbs on August 02, 2009, 05:24:17 PM
another pitcher's duel at Camden Yards
:roll:

10 pitchers total between both teams

Painful to watch.  The O's are, once again, striving for last place in the AL East. :frustrated:

And to think that a few weeks ago, I told Mattstick that the Jays were on the road to finishing behind the O's.  Silly me.  What was I thinking?

Last night was pretty brutal as well.   :|
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: flow00 on August 04, 2009, 07:53:51 PM
Sure was. Walk-off home run for a rookie. ... But the O's are giving it to Washburn so far in his first game as a Tiger.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: flow00 on August 04, 2009, 07:59:15 PM
Four losses in a row for Greinke, who now has a 10-7 record. He's about to be knocked out of contention for the CY Young. I'm now calling Hernandez or Halladay. But, if you look at the top 8 ERAs in the American League, three belong to Tigers.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on August 05, 2009, 08:48:43 AM
Going to the Tigers/Orioles game tonight.   :banana:

Let's go Jackson!  Last nights game was horrible.  Couldn't catch a break.  And the shortstop for the O's killed us on both sides of the ball.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 06, 2009, 03:55:14 PM

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/blue_jays_gm_confirms_there_never

Blue Jays GM Confirms There Never Really Was A 'Roy Halladay'

TORONTO—Responding to criticism that the team should have done more to deal star pitcher Roy Halladay by the trade deadline, Blue Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi revealed at a press conference Monday that there was no such person as the alleged six-time All-Star.

"Please, guys," said a defensive Ricciardi, who shopped "Halladay" around to the Phillies and Red Sox, among other teams. "A 6-foot-6, 225-pound pitcher with a 94-mph fastball who plays 200 innings a season? We're not giving that guy away for just anything, even if he does exist."

"We developed, by which I mean made up, a really good pitcher here, one of the best in baseball," said Ricciardi, who compared Halladay to a young and real Bob Gibson. "No one made an offer that came close to what Roy—who as far as they knew was a living, breathing baseball player—was worth. We went into negotiations looking for a made-up power bat, or at least two pretend arms that we could slide right into the rotation. I would have even accepted one existent major-league player."
Ricciardi continued: "The best the Phillies could come up with was Kyle Drabek and a prospect to be fabricated later. You're going to have to do better than that if you want Roy Halladay."

Halladay, who was fake-drafted by the Blue Jays in 1995, is credited with 142 career wins and 45 complete games, though Ricciardi confirmed that the fictional right-hander is just an amalgam of statistics compiled by Juan Guzman, Pat Hentgen, Woody Williams, Esteban Loaiza, Josh Towers, Gustavo Chacin, and other assorted Blue Jays pitchers through the years.

"We needed a new face for the franchise back in 2002, but our roster was pretty thin," Ricciardi said. "So we included a clause in our pitchers' contracts that said anytime they posted a decent start it'd be attributed to a 'Roy Halladay.' Then after the game, we'd say, 'There's a Halladay start,' or, 'Good old Roy, at it again.' At the end of the season, we said he'd won 19 games, and scouts were asking about him all over the place. It wasn't really too difficult adding him to the roster, since we haven't had any press covering the team in 15 years."

Ricciardi shrugged and added, "Roy's my uncle's name. And whenever we needed a face, like for his baseball card, we just used a picture of our UPS guy."
Roy Halladay is just the latest in a long string of completely fictitious Blue Jay greats, a list that includes Dave Stieb, Jesse Barfield, and Joe Carter, whose home run to win the 1993 World Series was actually just a two-run single in the seventh inning by Paul Molitor.

For their part, the Blue Jays clubhouse seemed happy that the abstract concept of Roy Halladay remained in Toronto.

"We heard the rumors, but you never expect a player like Roy to be said to play anywhere else," first baseman Lyle Overbay said. "It's not what Roy would want. Of course he deserves a chance to win, but he should win as a fake Blue Jay."

Catcher Rod Barajas added: "Our front office believes in us enough to give us the players to compete, real or imagined. We may be 11 games back of the wild card, but having a make-believe Roy Halladay is better than having no Roy Halladay at all."

Reactions around baseball were muted, as the revelation seemed merely to verify doubts that a pitcher of Halladay's caliber would ever play in Toronto.
"Those first couple of years you can't really control [playing in Toronto], but then you demand a trade and get out of there," ex–Blue Jay Orlando Hudson said.
When asked if he remembered playing with a Roy Halladay, Hudson said, "I don't remember any of my Blue Jay teammates."

Manager Cito Gaston admitted to being nervous when Halladay was selected to start the 2009 All-Star Game. "We sent [starting pitcher] Brian [Tallet] over to St. Louis in a specially made-up Halladay jersey. We thought for sure someone would notice at that point. But hey, who recognizes Brian Tallet?"

Ricciardi did not seem concerned about the inherent deceit behind the Halladay trade negotiations, insisting that some of the greatest players in baseball history were creations.

"Baseball is built on little deceptions: the curveball, the hidden-ball trick, the existence of Stan Musial. And we're not the only team who bends the truth. The Padres played 212 games last year just to make a little extra money. Just slid by and no one noticed. Milwaukee doesn't even have a third base."

When asked to explain his team's inactivity at the trade deadline, Ricciardi bristled, saying, "Look, we are in fourth place in the toughest division in baseball, and the only way to remain competitive is by cutting salary, trading for prospects, and building for 2011."

"Obviously, if Roy Halladay existed, I would have traded him," he added. "I'm not an idiot".
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Superfreakie on August 06, 2009, 04:31:39 PM
+K that article was awesome  :lol: Love the onion.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mehead on August 08, 2009, 08:25:51 AM
on paper Smoltz was worth a try..I guess..hang 'em up old man
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: flow00 on August 08, 2009, 08:34:56 AM
Quote from: Mr Minor on August 05, 2009, 08:48:43 AM
Going to the Tigers/Orioles game tonight.   :banana:

Let's go Jackson!  Last nights game was horrible.  Couldn't catch a break.  And the shortstop for the O's killed us on both sides of the ball.

Jackson is on fire. If he didn't have the worst run support in the AL, he'd be a very serious contender for the Cy Young.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on August 08, 2009, 09:34:13 AM
Quote from: flow00 on August 08, 2009, 08:34:56 AM
Quote from: Mr Minor on August 05, 2009, 08:48:43 AM
Going to the Tigers/Orioles game tonight.   :banana:

Let's go Jackson!  Last nights game was horrible.  Couldn't catch a break.  And the shortstop for the O's killed us on both sides of the ball.

Jackson is on fire. If he didn't have the worst run support in the AL, he'd be a very serious contender for the Cy Young.

For real.  He pitched really well the other night. 
Last night the only reason they won is they had all those runs right away.  If their hitting is off, the Tigers just can't compete.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: flow00 on August 08, 2009, 09:40:21 AM
The hitting has been great the last two games. BUt man, the first few weeks after the All Star break were terrible for hitting. But look at the Tigers pitchers. Of the 8 pitchers with the lowest ERAs in the AL, three of them are Tigers. If Porcello pitches like he did the other night and Galarraga somehow gets out of his rut, the Tigers won't need to score more than three runs a game.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on August 11, 2009, 11:07:14 AM
White Sox picked up Rios off waivers?  What's up with that?  I understand he was making a mint, but a solid, 28 year old OF is a nice thing to have. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 11, 2009, 11:19:54 AM
http://taoofstieb.blogspot.com/2009/08/gazelle-scampers-off-freely-into.html

As a self-styled "intelligent" Blue Jays fan, we can completely understand the rationale and the motivation for the Jays letting Alex Rios and the $60 million or so left on his long term contract just walk away, without any sort of compensation.

What the Jays get from allowing Rios and the entirety of his contract to be claimed by the Chicago White Sox is a significant amount of payroll flexibility in both the short term and down the road. It will allow the team to be a bit more dexterous in the free agent market, should they choose to indulge, and it will allow them to keep some of the young talent that they have emerging through their system.

(Don't forget that, if they are fortunate, the Jays are going to have to cough up a big contract for Travis Snider before the end of deals to which Rios and Wells were signed.)

So we get it. It makes sense. It's rational. It was probably the right thing to do.

Then there is the "fan" in us, who is totally irrational and has spent roughly about a thousand hours over the past couple of years irrationally feeding into the hopes and dreams and misery and agony of Jays fans through this very blog. And that part of us is really finding it difficult to root, root, root for the home team's corporate ownership's bottom line.

Fiscal forbearance and fiduciary diligence are commendable. We're certain that those who hold a financial stake in Rogers will greatly appreciate the fact that one of the divisions has found ways to cut costs going forward. We're also pretty sure that at year's end, Tony Viner and Nadir Mohammed and Phil Lind will all be compensated handsomely through bonuesses for their willingness to hack away at this particular division's overhead.

But for those of us who hold an emotional stake in the team, sending away a two-time All-Star for absolutely no return, even if he is underperforming, is awfully tough to swallow.

And maybe the brain trust can scoff at such sissy-boy emotionality around a big money decision like this, but it is those same emotions that make us do irrational things, like spend inordinate amounts of money on Blue Jays tickets, merchandise and paraphenalia, or stupid amounts of our summer watching three hours worth of sponsored programming on their television services.

If the Jays are able to outsmart the market and pull in players on more economical short term contracts in the next few years, then fine. But if the guys in the corporate suite are about to take this money off the field and tuck it away in their own coffers, then they have to know that the fanbase isn't going to stand for it.

Above all, sports franchises try to sell hope. But if what they're going to sell us in the forseeable future us hope for a miracle, we're not sure that we can buy in to that.

As for the Gazelle
Alex Rios got a raw deal from the fans in Toronto, and got shoehorned into roles that didn't fit his skillset. Here's hoping that a fresh start with a team in contention brings out the best in him.

Vaya con dios, El Gacela.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 17, 2009, 12:40:46 PM

Young fan catches 2 foul balls in a row.

http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=6143521

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on August 18, 2009, 09:37:19 AM
O's traded Huff to Detroit yesterday. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 18, 2009, 09:46:18 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on August 18, 2009, 09:37:19 AM
O's traded Huff to Detroit yesterday.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: flow00 on August 18, 2009, 09:51:02 AM
Quote from: mattstick on August 18, 2009, 09:46:18 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on August 18, 2009, 09:37:19 AM
O's traded Huff to Detroit yesterday.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz

Detroit needed a left-handed hitter. Huff isn't great, but he'll fill in well when needed.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 18, 2009, 09:54:59 AM

I can hit Lefty!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on August 18, 2009, 10:07:35 AM
Quote from: flow00 on August 18, 2009, 09:51:02 AM
Quote from: mattstick on August 18, 2009, 09:46:18 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on August 18, 2009, 09:37:19 AM
O's traded Huff to Detroit yesterday.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz

Detroit needed a left-handed hitter. Huff isn't great, but he'll fill in well when needed.

He hasn't had the best season, but he does have 70+ RBI's currently and he was sick last year.  If he can find that "silver slugger" swing like he had last year, you all should be in good shape.  But I guess this pushes Guillen back into the field? 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: flow00 on August 18, 2009, 10:29:56 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on August 18, 2009, 10:07:35 AM
Quote from: flow00 on August 18, 2009, 09:51:02 AM
Quote from: mattstick on August 18, 2009, 09:46:18 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on August 18, 2009, 09:37:19 AM
O's traded Huff to Detroit yesterday.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz

Detroit needed a left-handed hitter. Huff isn't great, but he'll fill in well when needed.

He hasn't had the best season, but he does have 70+ RBI's currently and he was sick last year.  If he can find that "silver slugger" swing like he had last year, you all should be in good shape.  But I guess this pushes Guillen back into the field?

The Tigers GM said they could use Huff in leftfield, third base and first base. It's an odd trade because it likely will mean Rayburn or Clete Thomas will have to return to the minors to make room for Huff on the 25-man roster. Both of them have been doing well and have comparable numbers to Huff.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on August 18, 2009, 10:32:25 AM
Quote from: flow00 on August 18, 2009, 10:29:56 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on August 18, 2009, 10:07:35 AM
Quote from: flow00 on August 18, 2009, 09:51:02 AM
Quote from: mattstick on August 18, 2009, 09:46:18 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on August 18, 2009, 09:37:19 AM
O's traded Huff to Detroit yesterday.

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz

Detroit needed a left-handed hitter. Huff isn't great, but he'll fill in well when needed.

He hasn't had the best season, but he does have 70+ RBI's currently and he was sick last year.  If he can find that "silver slugger" swing like he had last year, you all should be in good shape.  But I guess this pushes Guillen back into the field?

The Tigers GM said they could use Huff in leftfield, third base and first base. It's an odd trade because it likely will mean Rayburn or Clete Thomas will have to return to the minors to make room for Huff on the 25-man roster. Both of them have been doing well and have comparable numbers to Huff.

For us, we get rid of a guy on the downside of his career who is going to be a free agent in 6-7 weeks and looking to get paid.  Plus, we give him an opportunity to be a part of pennant race.   
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 18, 2009, 10:34:05 AM

And you're getting rid of another one of those no-talent hacks who have kept the O's in the basement for years..
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: flow00 on August 18, 2009, 10:37:15 AM
Quote from: mattstick on August 18, 2009, 10:34:05 AM

And you're getting rid of another one of those no-talent hacks who have kept the O's in the basement for years..

Whoa! I give the O's two or three years before they are real competitors. It's a young team with a lot of relatively new pitchers who could seemingly have ERAs in the low 3s.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on August 18, 2009, 10:39:16 AM
Quote from: mattstick on August 18, 2009, 10:34:05 AM

And you're getting rid of another one of those no-talent hacks who have kept the O's in the basement for years..

Yup, our infield is gonna get a whole lot younger after this season.  Mora = gone and obviously Huff. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 18, 2009, 10:41:12 AM
Yeah, we had this discussion 6 months ago probably... the Jays young arms are better, NYY & Boston will always be good and the Rays have enough young talent to keep them in contention until 2020...

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on August 18, 2009, 10:47:00 AM
Quote from: mattstick on August 18, 2009, 10:41:12 AM
Yeah, we had this discussion 6 months ago probably... the Jays young arms are better, NYY & Boston will always be good and the Rays have enough young talent to keep them in contention until 2020...

Yup, and I'll respond in a similar fashion:  Jays young arms are better, lol.   :-P
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 18, 2009, 10:57:43 AM

O's, lol.

(http://fromthedugout.freedomblogging.com/files/2009/03/ricky-romero-2.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 18, 2009, 03:26:23 PM

Hope the O's fans aren't too attached to Dave Tremblay...

Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports believes the Orioles should stick with manager Dave Trembley next year because his teams haven't quit; they've just been overmatched. Rosenthal says it looks like Trembley's "a goner." Here are the rest of the rumors:

Rosenthal says Jim Riggleman and even Bobby Cox are among the managers with uncertain futures.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on August 18, 2009, 03:27:26 PM
Quote from: mattstick on August 18, 2009, 03:26:23 PM

Hope the O's fans aren't too attached to Dave Tremblay...

Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports believes the Orioles should stick with manager Dave Trembley next year because his teams haven't quit; they've just been overmatched. Rosenthal says it looks like Trembley's "a goner." Here are the rest of the rumors:

Rosenthal says Jim Riggleman and even Bobby Cox are among the managers with uncertain futures.


Sucks, but it wouldn't surprise me at all. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on August 20, 2009, 09:24:07 AM
Quote from: mattstick on July 29, 2009, 02:51:31 PM

Dear Phillies,

When you don't make the playoffs, or lose in the playoffs because Cliff Lee is just an above-average pitcher, please remember that you had a chance to get Roy Halladay  - the best pitcher in baseball - but you didn't want to part with Kyle Drabek.

All the best,

Jays fans.

Dear Jays Fans,

Thank you for taking the time out of your busy day to express your concern for our reigning world champion Phillies.  So you thought that picking up Cliff Lee was a bad idea?  Perhaps, but maybe you've noticed that he's posted a 0.82 ERA and is 4-0, 2 of which were complete games, since he's joined our team.  Or maybe you forgot that he won the Cy Young Award last year over your supposed "Best Pitcher in Baseball".  Speaking of "Doc" Halladay, how'd he look last night against the Sawx?  Sorry, I haven't had a chance to check the other game stats because I was too busy watching Cliff Lee pitch a 2 hitter.  But seriously, you probably should have traded the 32 year old righty when you had the chance.  It should be fun watching an aging pitcher on the downside of his career next year from the basement of the AL East. 

Sincerely,

The World Champion Phillies   

:wink:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on August 20, 2009, 09:29:07 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on August 20, 2009, 09:24:07 AM
Quote from: mattstick on July 29, 2009, 02:51:31 PM

Dear Phillies,

When you don't make the playoffs, or lose in the playoffs because Cliff Lee is just an above-average pitcher, please remember that you had a chance to get Roy Halladay  - the best pitcher in baseball - but you didn't want to part with Kyle Drabek.

All the best,

Jays fans.

Dear Jays Fans,

Thank you for taking the time out of your busy day to express your concern for our reigning world champion Phillies.  So you thought that picking up Cliff Lee was a bad idea?  Perhaps, but maybe you've noticed that he's posted a 0.82 ERA and is 4-0, 2 of which were complete games, since he's joined our team.  Or maybe you forgot that he won the Cy Young Award last year over your supposed "Best Pitcher in Baseball".  Speaking of "Doc" Halladay, how'd he look last night against the Sawx?  Sorry, I haven't had a chance to check the other game stats because I was too busy watching Cliff Lee pitch a 2 hitter.  But seriously, you probably should have traded the 32 year old righty when you had the chance.  It should be fun watching an aging pitcher on the downside of his career next year from the basement of the AL East. 

Sincerely,

The World Champion Phillies   

:wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: Good stuff lope.... I mean Phillies.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 20, 2009, 09:54:32 AM

Dear Philiadelphia Phillies,

Thank your for your concern for our Doctor, he did struggle last night but we expect to see him back in form in no time.  I spoke with the good Doc shortly after his start and he had this to say: ""I wanna frickin' face a pitcher three times a game!  I wanna face frickin' Augie Ojeda three times a game!".  He also is pretty sure that most AAA pitchers could shut down that DBax lineup on any given night.  We are also pretty sure that Big Papi is back on Steroids, and we would have won the game if MLB were serious about getting drug users out of the game.  That said, we've pretty much given up on the season by now, but hey, we were in first place in the AL East for a month, which is a small victory in our little world.

All the best!

Jays Fans 2010
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 20, 2009, 09:55:42 AM
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Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on August 20, 2009, 09:57:16 AM
My buddy was just in Oakland and went to one of the A's/Yanks game.  He said there were ridiculous amounts of Yankee fans.  Great pic.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on August 20, 2009, 09:57:34 AM
Quote from: mattstick on August 20, 2009, 09:54:32 AM

Dear Philiadelphia Phillies,

Thank your for your concern for our Doctor, he did struggle last night but we expect to see him back in form in no time.  I spoke with the good Doc shortly after his start and he had this to say: ""I wanna frickin' face a pitcher three times a game!  I wanna face frickin' Augie Ojeda three times a game!".  He also is pretty sure that most AAA pitchers could shut down that DBax lineup on any given night.  We are also pretty sure that Big Papi is back on Steroids, and we would have won the game if MLB were serious about getting drug users out of the game.  That said, we've pretty much given up on the season by now, but hey, we were in first place in the AL East for a month, which is a small victory in our little world.

All the best!

Jays Fans 2010

:-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on August 20, 2009, 09:58:03 AM
Quote from: Mr Minor on August 20, 2009, 09:57:16 AM
My buddy was just in Oakland and went to one of the A's/Yanks game.  He said there were ridiculous amounts of Yankee fans.  Great pic.

Funny how Yankee "Fans" come out of the woodwork when they're doing well.   :shakehead:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on August 20, 2009, 09:59:24 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on August 20, 2009, 09:58:03 AM
Quote from: Mr Minor on August 20, 2009, 09:57:16 AM
My buddy was just in Oakland and went to one of the A's/Yanks game.  He said there were ridiculous amounts of Yankee fans.  Great pic.

Funny how Yankee "Fans" come out of the woodwork when they're doing well.   :shakehead:

For real.  Eerily similar to the amount of Patriots fans that came out of the wookwork when they started winning all those superbowls.  Not that Pats fans are the same douchebags as Yankee fans, just to be clear.

edit to add:  I am not saying anything bad about Pats fans.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on August 20, 2009, 10:04:08 AM
Quote from: Mr Minor on August 20, 2009, 09:59:24 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on August 20, 2009, 09:58:03 AM
Quote from: Mr Minor on August 20, 2009, 09:57:16 AM
My buddy was just in Oakland and went to one of the A's/Yanks game.  He said there were ridiculous amounts of Yankee fans.  Great pic.

Funny how Yankee "Fans" come out of the woodwork when they're doing well.   :shakehead:

For real.  Eerily similar to the amount of Patriots fans that came out of the wookwork when they started winning all those superbowls.  Not that Pats fans are the same douchebags as Yankee fans, just to be clear.

edit to add:  I am not saying anything bad about Pats fans.

PFFT....I will.  Chowderheads suck just as bad as(or worse than) the rest of them!   :-P

Honestly, no team is immune to the bandwagon.  If by some miracle the O's started playing well, I'm sure Camden Yards would sell out each night and we'd see O's hats everywhere.   
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: okelnard on August 20, 2009, 10:13:24 AM
We just have the Lastros who are determined to be mediocre for all of eternity  :frustrated:

Our high point this year: sweeping the cards in a 3 game series.  And there was much rejoicing:
(http://www.geocities.com/fang_club/much_rejoicing.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on August 20, 2009, 10:17:03 AM
Quote from: Mr Minor on August 20, 2009, 09:59:24 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on August 20, 2009, 09:58:03 AM
Quote from: Mr Minor on August 20, 2009, 09:57:16 AM
My buddy was just in Oakland and went to one of the A's/Yanks game.  He said there were ridiculous amounts of Yankee fans.  Great pic.

Funny how Yankee "Fans" come out of the woodwork when they're doing well.   :shakehead:

For real.  Eerily similar to the amount of Patriots fans that came out of the wookwork when they started winning all those superbowls.  Not that Pats fans are the same douchebags as Yankee fans, just to be clear.

edit to add:  I am not saying anything bad about Pats fans.

So I'm a douchebag huh?  :wink:

Seriously though, I work in an office that's almost split 50/50 for the Yanks and Sox and I must say the Sox fans are WAY bigger douchebags than the Yankee fans, although they all get on my nerves. The Sox fans wouldn't shut up about the 8 game win streak they had on us before we took 4 from them a few weeks ago, and when that happened what did I do? Nothing. All I care about is a 2ft trophy with 30 flags on it.

/end rant
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on August 20, 2009, 10:20:32 AM
Quote from: okelnard on August 20, 2009, 10:13:24 AM
We just have the Lastros who are determined to be mediocre for all of eternity  :frustrated:

Our high point this year: sweeping the cards in a 3 game series.  And there was much rejoicing:
(http://www.geocities.com/fang_club/much_rejoicing.jpg)

Lastros, LOL.  I've never heard that before!  +k   :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on August 20, 2009, 10:36:36 AM
<<< Happy Cliff Lee owner.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 20, 2009, 12:46:39 PM

http://taoofstieb.blogspot.com/2009/08/were-beginning-to-grow-apart-from-doc.html

It's about a decade or so in the rearview mirror now, but the memory of the two weeks that we spent living with our our ex after we'd broken up is still pretty vivid. Palpable, even.

We spent those two weeks just trying to get along well enough to make things tolerable, understanding that at some point, we'd go our separate ways, and that this misery would subside (and be replaced with a completely different misery).

In some ways, that's how we've started to feel about Roy Halladay.

We understand that this might seem cheap and convenient to bring this up on the morning after Halladay's worst start in a year. But after weeks of emotional turmoil, waiting for the other shoe to drop, and now waiting even longer for it to finally drop (In the winter? Next July? After 2010?), we're left with this oddly detached feeling whenever we watch Halladay. It used to be that every Doc start was a Festival of Awesome, and a Celebration of This Precious Moment With the Greatest Pitcher Alive. And now, we just feel a bit numb.

We should probably shake it off and savour the moments that we have left with Doc, because it's gonna hurt like hell when he finally leaves. But it is the knowledge that the hurt is coming that makes us wish that we didn't have to bide our time and wait for it.

Speaking of waiting...
We had the iPod on shuffle this morning, and a Bruce Cockburn tune popped up. There are a couple of lines in that song that we figured Blue Jay fans could relate to right about now.

Somewhere out there is a place that's cool
Where peace and balance are the rule
Working toward a future like some kind of mystic jewel
And waiting for a miracle
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on August 20, 2009, 03:35:53 PM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 10:26:47 AM
Quote from: inourdr on May 22, 2009, 10:11:39 AM
Quote from: mattstick on May 22, 2009, 10:09:05 AM

You clearly didn't watch his first big league starts.  Kid was awesome.

1 start means nothing in this game.

No, but 3 great starts is promising.  Again, whatever scouting reports you're reading are wrong - he was very, very good before his DL stint.  If the kid was a Yankee you'd have a major boner (except that you've probably forgotten the feeling because the Yankees don't produce young talent - oh snap!).

After you see what the M's get for Bedard later this year I wonder if you'll still feel like you "fleeced" the Mariners - Sherrill is somewhat serviceable, Adam Jones looks good but the M's could get a signifigant haul for Bedard from a team looking for an ace.

Quote
Mariners transferred LHP Erik Bedard from the 15-day disabled list to the 60-day disabled list.
Bedard is out for the rest of the season and likely the first month of 2010 as he recovers from a torn labrum and inflamed bursa. The Bedard trade has been nothing but a disaster for Seattle since the day the trade was made.

Lets see, yup, still feeling pretty good about this trade.   :-D  We def. fleeced the M's. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: art vandelay on August 21, 2009, 07:51:10 PM
yo dudes, ive been too busy watching cliff lee suck to keep up with this thread.  whats up?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 21, 2009, 08:01:33 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Roy-Halladay-still-hanging-over-Cliff-Lee-s-perf?urn=mlb,184108

Roy Halladay still hanging over Cliff Lee's performance in Philly

By 'Duk

As you read this, there is likely another Philadelphian crafting a MLB-a-Culpa to Cliff Lee(notes) over his morning TastyKake.

And why wouldn't there be? After being initially greeted like an Atari 2600 on a Christmas morning that was supposed to bring a Nintendo, Lee has more than earned the current shower of  "my bads" from the Philly faithful.

In his four starts since coming to the Phillies, Lee has earned four decisive victories and pitched two complete games, including a masterful 8-1 win over Arizona on Wednesday night. After 33 innings logged, Lee has posted 0.82 ERA, a 0.72 WHIP and 34 Ks for the Phils and elevated a starting rotation that seemed destined to prevent a successful title defense.

Considering that, all of the standing Os for Lee's growing legend are well-deserved.

However, I'm inclined to say that Philly fans shouldn't feel the need to include Roy Halladay in all of the Lee tributes or, worse yet, put his considerable talents down and act like it was a blessing in disguise that they didn't end up with him at the trading deadline.

OK, so yeah, I know that J.P. Ricciardi spent a month of everyone's life trying to lure the Phillies into trading their farm system for Toronto's ace.

And I know that Halladay's performance since the deadline — 2-3 with a 3.41 ERA — hasn't come close to the unworldly effort that Lee has put forth.

And I know that most Philadelphia fans aren't quite wiping their brows and acting like they dodged a major bullet by not getting talked into Halladay ... at least not yet.

But if anyone wants to draw the natural connection between what might have been (Doc) and what actually is (Cliff), I'll just ask you to remember that it was Lee who 1) received the fortune of being sprung from a non-contending team, 2) was placed in National League and 3) actually now gets to pitch for a general manager who didn't make a big show of putting him on the trading block only to not do anything once he was there.

Look, I'm not saying that Philly shouldn't be appreciating Lee's impressive debut — really, they should be going completely nuts — I'm just that there's no time for revisionist history down the stretch. No matter what happens over the final month, no matter what numbers either pitcher puts up, I don't think that anyone can act like Halladay wouldn't have done the same if given a reinvigorating chance at new playoff life. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 22, 2009, 08:06:31 AM

More praise for a Jays rookie pitcher:

http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog/roto_arcade/post/Closing-Time-Marc-Rzepcynski-represent;_ylt=AmUu9TiI8LjfhEUREBkSM9.5bZ8u?urn=fantasy,184470

(http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_fantasy_experts__17/ept_sports_fantasy_experts-914665551-1250924529.jpg?ymxvSxBDJrZ6YLQ5)

Marc Rzepczynski has received a trial by fire in the rough-and-tumble AL East (six of his nine starts have come in division) but he's managed to keep his head about him and throw the ball well most of the time (3.65 ERA, no outing with more than four runs). The Halos managed just three hits and one run against the gangly lefty Friday night, while Rzepczynski struck out six (video here). "He was as billed," said an impressed Mike Scioscia. "You see a guy with good life on his fastball, good movement, who gets his slider under swings. He moved the ball around and threw a lot of strikes." The rook gets a home date with Tampa next week, an opponent he's fared well against (12 IP, 2 ER).
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on August 27, 2009, 10:31:23 AM

http://www.bugsandcranks.com/landonevanson/baseball/sad-realization/

August 26, 2009 at 11:42 am ET

Sad Realization

One of my fondest baseball memories was my one and only trip to Fenway Park two years ago, being present for back-to-back-to-back-to-back home runs being clubbed by the Sawx against the hated Yankees.

Of course, I could have seen another one this year but was unable to make it to the great B&C Get-Together this summer. Still pissed about that, by the way.

Nevertheless, I can't help but think that my affinity for the Nation has dwindled to the point of disdain. Maybe it's been all the Manny controversy or the talk of Papi enhancement, or maybe just that Boston is no better than the the Bombers from the Evil Empire when it comes to hording talent.

Look, I understand that most fans already feel that way, but Theo Epstein and the Red Sox had almost always seemed to get the talent that was necessary, not just to have it, which has been the knock on the Yankees for a long time.

When they got Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell, they needed them. When they got J.D. Drew, they needed him. When they acquired Pedro and then Curt Schilling, they were required to reverse the curse.

This year, though, has been a different story. True, Jason Varitek is a shell of his former self, but they don't just get a catcher, they get Victor Martinez, making the rich, richer. And with an already tremendous bullpen, Boston goes out and gets Billy Wagner. Now, believe me, as a Twins fan I completely understand that you can never have a deep enough bullpen, but the Red Sox already have four relievers with ERAs under 3.00, and Manny Delcarmen sits at 3.44. Nevermind that lefty Hideki Okajima is undefeated (4-0) with a 2.70 mark.

Though Billy Wagner will help the Red Sox if he can muster any semblance of his lights-out performance from the other night for the Mets on an even remotely consistent basis, but Wagner was not needed for Boston to compete. The Red Sox are already 72-53 and just six games out in the AL East, and with those five aforementioned relievers, it doesn't seem as though another lefty will help make that big of an impact.

Maybe this is just the whinings of a small-market fan who wishes his club could make such moves, or maybe it's just a fan who is fed up with the haves feeling as though they should snatch up all of the available talent and then actually call themselves a club.  There is no building of a team with such moves, there is just getting the best player possible to fill the position, with the absence of strategy because there is no worry with regard to budget.

The last Yankees teams that I could stomach were the Torre clubs from the late 90s and early part of this decade. And why? Because they had Tino and Scott Brosius, Chad Curtis and acquired situational relievers like Mike Stanton and Jeff Nelson because that was what they needed to do to dominate.

They had chemistry, and while they were incredibly difficult to defeat, they didnt' have the best players at each and every position, they just had solid players who knew their role. Even when the Yankees acquired Paul O'Neill, he wasn't an elite player, just a damn solid one. They won because they had the right players in the right spots at the right time.

Most teams that need a lefty reliever just go out and get someone who can help, kind of like Stanton, but the Red Sox don't have to worry about money, so they are able to get a once-dominant closer to be a set-up man in front of Jonathan Papelbon, and Okajima, and Takashi Saito, and Ramon Ramirez and Delcarmen.

Please know, I love Tek and Youk and Pedroia as much as any baseball fan, dirt dogs who play the game the right way. But here's the bottom line, while I still hate the Yankees and their fans because of their sense of entitlement, I've held out as long as possible on this and can't help but say it now — the Red Sox have not only acquired Wagner and Martinez, they have also acquired my disdain.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on August 27, 2009, 11:12:10 AM
He makes some good points... However he should look at his own teams unwillingness to spend any money. Pohlad was one of the richest owners in baseball, prior to his death, and was very stingy with his loot.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on September 11, 2009, 10:35:30 PM

http://www.walkoffwalk.com/2009/09/your-annual-miguel-batista-sop.html

(http://www.walkoffwalk.com/pics/batistakennyg.jpg)

Last year, we learned that Mariners pitcher Miguel Batista learned how to play the soprano sax and met Kenny G during spring training in Arizona.

    "He played for me," Batista said. "It was my favorite song, 'Alone.' Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

Koufax, Kenny G, and God. The triumvirate. Last night, Kenny G played the National Anthem at Safeco Field so the men had their big emotional reunion prior to the game. It is our duty at Walkoff Walk to alert you to every occurrence when these two gents get together. See you in 2010, fellas.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on September 18, 2009, 11:33:35 AM

http://www.bugsandcranks.com/tylermaas/baseball/midwestern-man-in-coma-since-march-wakes-fails-to-look-at-standings-is-totally-enthralled-by-brewerscubs-game/

Man in Coma Since March Wakes, Fails to Look at Standings, is Totally Enthralled by Brewers/Cubs Game

A suburban Rockford, Illinois man reportedly awoke from a coma sustained this past March in a construction accident. Upon his hospital release Thursday, the man, Vincent Westphal, 34, asked to be taken to the finale of this week's Brewers and Cubs series at Wrigley Field.

Neglecting to look at the standings prior to his arrival to the stadium, Westphal assumed he was in for an exciting mid-September contest, brimming with playoff implications. Instead, he would be watching his beloved Cubbies (75-70, 7 GB of Wild Card) take on the Brewers (71-75, 11.5 GB of Wild Card) in a near-meaningless battle for 2nd place in the NL Central.

"Wow, I can only imagine the show these two have put on while I was out," Westphal said. "I'm sure words can't begin to describe the kind of baseball they've been playing."

Still unwitting of the circumstances, Westphal was surprised when he easily obtained tickets behind home plate at below face value. Once in his seats, he marveled to see the stadium much less congested than usual. "I know it's a weekday game, but c'mon! There's a playoff race going on here, people," he said.

Seeing Brewers acquisitions David Weathers, Jody Gerut and Felipe Lopez warming up before game time, Westphal incorrectly assumed Milwaukee had added depth to assist the team in the NLDS and beyond. He also erred in his assessment of Alcides Escobar.

"I feel for [shortstop J.J.] Hardy," he lamented aloud. "The kid just can't seem to stay healthy. Hell, maybe they're giving him a day off after a breakout year or something."

Westphal also commented on Chicago's (now) starting pitcher Randy Wells getting the nod. Though posting respectable numbers, the hurler saw just 4 1/3 innings as a Cub in 2008.

"WELLS!" Westphal screamed, as others looked on confused to his dismay. "It's September, Lou. Put in Zombie!!!"

The Cubs' starting lineup proved equally odd to the recently-discharged patient. Near inaudible groans about Aaron Miles not starting and Milton Bradley hitting fifth – after Jake Fox (who was starting over Alfonso Soriano) could be heard from the likes of Westphal as the game began.

The game progressed with numerous other hilarious coma-based bits of misunderstanding and incorrect assumption, until Trevor Hoffman closed out the game for a 7-5 Brewers win and series split. At that moment, Westphal – previously oblivious to any stats, standing or fan chatter around him – overheard the announcer read both teams' records over the Stadium P.A. system. He was thrown into a frenzy.

"They're both shitty!" he screamed, tears streaming down his ever-reddening face. "They're both so shitty!"

Westphal reportedly fled Wrigley briskly and was last seen wandering helmetless at the site of his coma-inducing injury.


Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on September 18, 2009, 12:14:05 PM
Funny shit there!

(http://www.walkoffwalk.com/cinema.majorleague.groundskeepers.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on September 18, 2009, 04:02:25 PM
Those who live in Glass Houses shouldn't throw stones.

Blue Jays'd.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on September 18, 2009, 04:18:19 PM

Dude, I didn't write it!

The Jays sucked but imagine how bad the Cubs or Brewers would've done in the AL East...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on September 18, 2009, 04:30:29 PM
Totally.  The article really hurts.   :x  It's true, and it hurts.   :x
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on September 21, 2009, 09:11:01 PM
Tigers.   :frustrated:

They are totally going to blow it and miss the playoffs because they are sucking it up right now.   :samurai:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on September 26, 2009, 06:29:33 PM
Great start by Matsuzaka today. Too bad Francona basically conceded the game by starting Brian Anderson, Jed Lowrie, and Rocco Baldelli. One clutch hit and it's a tie game . . .  :shakehead:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on September 26, 2009, 07:09:53 PM

Red Sox blah blah blah
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on September 26, 2009, 07:32:01 PM
Quote from: Alumni on September 26, 2009, 06:29:33 PM
Great start by Matsuzaka today. Too bad Francona basically conceded the game by starting Brian Anderson, Jed Lowrie, and Rocco Baldelli. One clutch hit and it's a tie game . . .  :shakehead:

But a much better start by CC.  :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on September 26, 2009, 07:59:18 PM
Quote from: inourdr on September 26, 2009, 07:32:01 PM
But a much better start by CC.  :-D

No doubt. But you know what you've got with CC. The Sox are just trying to figure out if Matsuzaka can be the #4 starter for the ALDS.

Here you go, Mattstick. This one's for you.
(http://majorleaguejerk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/carter.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on September 26, 2009, 09:29:06 PM

Touch 'em all Joe.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on September 27, 2009, 07:06:50 PM
Ummm.....

Quote from: mattstick on April 07, 2009, 08:31:09 AM
AL East winner: Red Sox (that literally hurt to type)
AL Central winner: Twins
AL West winner: A's
AL Wildcard: Rays

Quote from: antelope19 on April 07, 2009, 03:31:29 PM
AL East winner: Red Sox
AL Central winner: Twins
AL West winner: Angels
AL Wildcard: Rays

Quote from: antelope19 on April 14, 2009, 10:08:01 AM
Are you talkin' about the yankees?  Could you speak up?  I can't hear you from all the way down there in the basement of the A.L. East.

Quote from: antelope19 on April 23, 2009, 10:45:57 AM
Yankees, lol.

Quote from: GBL on April 24, 2009, 02:12:16 AM
a little late to this, but ill still give it a go

AL East winner: Red Sox
AL Central winner: Twins
AL West winner: Angels
AL Wildcard: Rays

FAIL.  :samurai:

1 down 3 to go.


Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on September 27, 2009, 07:35:46 PM
Where are your fearless predictions?

Put up or STFU.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: G. Augusto on September 27, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
 :lol:

Who is this guy again?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on September 27, 2009, 09:21:17 PM
Quote from: mattstick on September 27, 2009, 07:35:46 PM
Where are your fearless predictions?

Put up or STFU.

Settle down, I'm just fuckin' around. Had I been on the board in when you made your predictions I would have picked the Yanks to win the east though.... but they are my team. In fact, I probably would have selected most of the teams you guys did for the AL with the exceptions of the A's in the west.

Quote from: G. Augusto on September 27, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
:lol:

Who is this guy again?

I'm the guy who knows more about baseball than you!  :-P

Edit: Fixed a spelling error pointed out to me by blat... thanks blat!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on September 27, 2009, 10:27:51 PM
*than
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on September 27, 2009, 10:37:45 PM

It's gonna be tough for the Yankees in the playoffs with only one legit starter.  Considering how much they spent in the off-season, they could even win the World Series this year and it would still seem like a FAIL.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on September 27, 2009, 10:53:47 PM
Quote from: mattstick on September 27, 2009, 10:37:45 PM

It's gonna be tough for the Yankees in the playoffs with only one legit starter.  Considering how much they spent in the off-season, they could even win the World Series this year and it would still seem like a FAIL.

NY should be Boston's biggest fan right now. You know they'd rather face the Sox than the Angels. It'll be interesting to see what Boston does from here. The fan in me thinks that they were almost going through the motions this weekend. Look at who they started at the outfield corners yesterday and tell me they were gunning for a win. Bringing in Saito today? The guy specializes in eliminating inherited runners . . . by letting them score. Today was classic. The guy doesn't just come in and give up a hit in a clutch situation. No, he wild pitches first, to ensure that both runners will score when he gives up the hit. The guy is useless. The fact that he still has a low ERA only means that the rest of the bullpen consistently bails him out when he finally does get pulled.

It know it sounds like a tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory, but part of me *almost* thinks that Francona was afraid of clinching a wildcard at Yankee Stadium. True or not, he managed like it. And you know Boston will celebrate like mad when they do clinch the wildcard, because they're Boston. That's what they do. And pulling that stunt at Yankee Stadium....that just wouldn't be cool. It's like inviting a bigger arse-whipping than would happen anyway if these two meet in the playoffs.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: G. Augusto on September 28, 2009, 09:11:16 AM
Quote from: inourdr on September 27, 2009, 09:21:17 PM
Quote from: G. Augusto on September 27, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
:lol:

Who is this guy again?

I'm the guy who knows more about baseball than you!  :-P

Edit: Fixed a spelling error pointed out to me by blat... thanks blat!

Yeah...still not ringing a bell.... :?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on September 30, 2009, 10:47:24 AM
Excuse the Sox while they fall backwards into the postseason. Might be a good idea to try and win another game - or two - before getting on that charter flight to John Wayne airport...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on September 30, 2009, 05:49:25 PM
Quote from: mattstick on September 27, 2009, 10:37:45 PM

It's gonna be tough for the Yankees in the playoffs with only one legit starter.  Considering how much they spent in the off-season, they could even win the World Series this year and it would still seem like a FAIL.

I'm confused... How can winning a World Series ever be considered a failure? Say what you want about our pitching but Pettite usually pitches better in the post season. Yes, he's old but I'll take experience in the post season over youth any day of the week. The Yankees can out hit any team in the AL but I'll be the first to admit Carpenter and Wainwright scare the shit out of me. If I was a betting man I'd place my chips on St. Louis BUT if either of the aforementioned pitchers have 1 bad outing they could be toast. Time will tell.

Now's the time when you tell me that the Yankees over paid for Burnett (which EVERYONE knows) and that we are the worst thing to ever happen to the game of baseball, Joba sucks and his mom's a drunk, and that we buy our championships (which, IF we win this year, will be the first "purchased" championship).
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 02, 2009, 01:37:26 PM

The Yankees are annoying, and if they win this year I will quickly forget about it and continue to be unimpressed by a team that can barely win championships with a $200+ million dollar payroll.

Holly Madison on the other hand, is quite impressive.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 04, 2009, 06:08:16 PM
Blue Jays, lol.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: flow00 on October 05, 2009, 12:42:00 PM
Miguel Cabrera is accused of hitting his wife. Not good just before the platoffs.

http://www.freep.com/article/20091005/SPORTS02/91005019/1319/Police--Cabrera-was-drunk-during-fight-with-wife
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 05, 2009, 12:48:34 PM

Sweet way to end the season Jays, sweet.

Jays in 2010!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 05, 2009, 12:49:34 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 05, 2009, 12:48:34 PM

Sweet way to end the season Jays, sweet.

Jays in 2010!

  :lol:

The O's went undefeated in October this year!!!!   :roll:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on October 06, 2009, 10:52:45 AM
Quote from: flow00 on October 05, 2009, 12:42:00 PM
Miguel Cabrera is accused of hitting his wife. Not good just before the platoffs.

http://www.freep.com/article/20091005/SPORTS02/91005019/1319/Police--Cabrera-was-drunk-during-fight-with-wife

I definitely blame him for the loss on Saturday.  Didn't help him in his 0-11 against the Sox.

Now it's the biggest game in baseball tonight!  Come on, Tigers.  One win.

Of course, then it's on to NY.  But still, at least they can make the playoffs...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 06, 2009, 11:01:48 AM
Dude blew a .26, no wonder he's been "slumping".  He seems totally commited to this team. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 06, 2009, 11:05:48 AM

What did Detroit give up for Cabrera & Willis?

Florida is probably pretty damn happy with that deal.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 06, 2009, 11:06:48 AM
The Tigers would send outfielder Cameron Maybin, pitcher Andrew Miller, catcher Mike Rabelo and minor league pitchers Eulogio De La Cruz, Dallas Trahern and Burke Badenhop to the Marlins.

Well, they're probably not that stoked yet...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: flow00 on October 06, 2009, 11:10:52 AM
Quote from: mattstick on October 06, 2009, 11:06:48 AM
The Tigers would send outfielder Cameron Maybin, pitcher Andrew Miller, catcher Mike Rabelo and minor league pitchers Eulogio De La Cruz, Dallas Trahern and Burke Badenhop to the Marlins.

Well, they're probably not that stoked yet...

Despite Cabrera's behavior, it was a good trade. Maybin and Miller aren't doing as well as expected, and Cabrera's numbers are fantastic: .326, 35 home runs and 100-plus RBIs. He carried the team this year.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: GBL on October 06, 2009, 04:09:25 PM
We're going to win Twins
We're going to score
We're going to win Twins
Watch that baseball soar
Crack out a home run
Shout a hip-ho-rae
Cheer for the Minnesota Twins today
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 06, 2009, 05:50:40 PM
Thank you, Joe Girardi.

The Yanks chose to start their ALDS on Wednesday, giving the gimpy Boston squad an extra day of rest.

Thanks are due to Minnesota, too, I guess. Today's game has to be why the Yanks are opting for the quick turnaround...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on October 06, 2009, 07:15:35 PM
Quote from: GBL on October 06, 2009, 04:09:25 PM
We're going to win Twins
We're going to score
We're going to win Twins
Watch that baseball soar
Crack out a home run
Shout a hip-ho-rae
Cheer for the Minnesota Twins today

Respectfully disagree.  I will do no such thing today or any other day.   :-P

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 06, 2009, 08:51:47 PM
What a game!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on October 06, 2009, 09:02:01 PM
sick play to save the game
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on October 06, 2009, 09:37:05 PM
This is ridiculous!  What a game!!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on October 06, 2009, 09:39:16 PM
Quote from: Alumni on October 06, 2009, 08:51:47 PM
What a game!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on October 06, 2009, 09:39:37 PM
 :frustrated:

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 07, 2009, 08:39:24 AM
Go Twins!!!!  *

*-Antelope19 is the biggest fan of whomever is playing the Yankees
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 07, 2009, 08:41:51 AM

Gotta feel for Justin Morneau who is a STUD and has to sit at home and watch his Twins in the playoffs.

Twins in 4.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 07, 2009, 08:42:40 AM
Quote from: mattstick on October 07, 2009, 08:41:51 AM

Gotta feel for Justin Morneau who is a STUD and has to sit at home and watch his Twins in the playoffs.

Twins in 4.

Agreed.  Dude is a beast and played a MAJOR role in getting that team to where they are today. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 07, 2009, 06:18:05 PM
Just wanted to say....
GO TWINS!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 07, 2009, 06:19:50 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 07, 2009, 06:18:05 PM
Just wanted to say....
GO TWINS!!!!!!!!

And when you have a guy on 3rd with less than two out...bunt if you need to, but don't strand the guy.  :x
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 07, 2009, 06:21:30 PM
Ha.  Did that happen?  I didn't even see the game.  I was very surprised at the result.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 08, 2009, 08:58:43 PM
Great time to be a baseball fan. Maybe the best time of the year...

Cards are 1 out away from taking the split, but...wait...a 2-base error by Matt Holliday on a routine fly, and the Dodgers have the tying run in scoring position.

With the exception of the MIN-NY snoozer yesterday, every game's been good. Hopefully that continues for the late one (BOS@ANA)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 08, 2009, 09:10:29 PM
Matt Holliday = goat.

Dodgers pull off the come-from-behind win.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 08, 2009, 09:49:22 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 07, 2009, 08:39:24 AM
Go Twins!!!!  *

*-Antelope19 is the biggest fan of whomever is playing the Yankees
Antelope19 should admit that all his teams suck and stop hating the Yankees the way the little boy hates the cute looking girl on the playground...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 09, 2009, 06:12:46 AM

The best part about the 09 Yankees is that even if they win the World Series they're still a bunch of overpaid losers.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 09, 2009, 08:44:52 AM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on October 08, 2009, 09:49:22 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 07, 2009, 08:39:24 AM
Go Twins!!!!  *

*-Antelope19 is the biggest fan of whomever is playing the Yankees
Antelope19 should admit that all his teams suck and stop hating the Yankees the way the little boy hates the cute looking girl on the playground...

:lol:

It'll never happen.  My hatred for the Yankees is steadfast.  It's been going on for 30 years.  Seek out my "key your eye out story" for one of the many reasons I truly hate the yankees(and the many of their fans). 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: UncleEbinezer on October 09, 2009, 08:59:34 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 09, 2009, 08:44:52 AM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on October 08, 2009, 09:49:22 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 07, 2009, 08:39:24 AM
Go Twins!!!!  *

*-Antelope19 is the biggest fan of whomever is playing the Yankees
Antelope19 should admit that all his teams suck and stop hating the Yankees the way the little boy hates the cute looking girl on the playground...

:lol:

It'll never happen.  My hatred for the Yankees is steadfast.  It's been going on for 30 years.  Seek out my "key your eye out story" for one of the many reasons I truly hate the yankees(and the many of their fans).

WOW...Key your eye out?  Harsh.  Glad I am a Mets fan.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on October 10, 2009, 08:58:17 AM
Anyone else think the bad call by the ump held the Twins from winning?  Maybe things would have been the same, maybe not.  But still, that was a huge call missed.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mehead on October 10, 2009, 09:31:45 AM
yup..how in the hell did he miss that call?  he was RIGHT there!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: GBL on October 10, 2009, 10:57:54 AM
Maybe because he is from NY?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 10, 2009, 05:24:44 PM

Rig'd.

(http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_mlb_experts__39/ept_sports_mlb_experts-996082855-1255146912.jpg?ymgmZBCDdRZiRvtB)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 10, 2009, 07:08:35 PM
I would say yes, if the Twins hadn't choked in the eleventh.

With three men on and zero outs, you should definitely score.  Ground balls shouldn't have been an option.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: blatboom on October 10, 2009, 07:19:46 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 10, 2009, 05:24:44 PM

Rig'd.

(http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_mlb_experts__39/ept_sports_mlb_experts-996082855-1255146912.jpg?ymgmZBCDdRZiRvtB)

lol.  why even put umps out there then?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on October 10, 2009, 10:17:55 PM
^^ For real.  That could have been called from home plate.

yank'd
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 11, 2009, 03:40:37 PM

Oh the joy of watching Papelbon walk off the field after giving up the lead.

Dodgers/Angels WS, siafi
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 11, 2009, 06:50:50 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2491/4002738022_6c6c97766e_b.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: sls.stormyrider on October 11, 2009, 07:07:47 PM
 :-(

anyone but the Yankees
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 11, 2009, 09:37:12 PM

Dear Twins,

STOP WITH THE FUCKING BASERUNNING ERRORS.

Love,

Mattstick
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 11, 2009, 09:54:03 PM
What? No pictures of the Jays' closer to post?

Got to be in it to win it.  :-P
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 11, 2009, 10:16:48 PM

So you can come around this thread and boast when the Red Sox win, but get all pissy when there is a pic of Papelbon walking off the field as a loser...

This Red Sox team was pretty weak, cut some of the useless aged talent from that line-up and they'll be ready for 2010.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 11, 2009, 11:00:28 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 11, 2009, 10:16:48 PM

So you can come around this thread and boast when the Red Sox win, but get all pissy when there is a pic of Papelbon walking off the field as a loser...

This Red Sox team was pretty weak, cut some of the useless aged talent from that line-up and they'll be ready for 2010.

Why so defensive?

It was a mild rebuke, made with a smile. Do I need to work on my resentment to continue posting here?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: whyweigh5.0 on October 11, 2009, 11:07:54 PM
someone needs to make a youtube compilation video of all of the times a fan has interfered with a player making a play on a foul ball
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 11, 2009, 11:16:49 PM
Quote from: Alumni on October 11, 2009, 11:00:28 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 11, 2009, 10:16:48 PM

So you can come around this thread and boast when the Red Sox win, but get all pissy when there is a pic of Papelbon walking off the field as a loser...

This Red Sox team was pretty weak, cut some of the useless aged talent from that line-up and they'll be ready for 2010.

Why so defensive?

It was a mild rebuke, made with a smile. Do I need to work on my resentment to continue posting here?

Wasn't defensive at all, if you want to talk about why the Jays suck we can do that, but the fact that Boston was eliminated from the playoffs this afternoon is a little more topical.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 11, 2009, 11:28:24 PM
So your post wasn't meant as good-natured ribbing? Because that's all mine was.

You were being serious?  :?

If I knew that you harbored some deep-seated resentment of Papelbon and/or the Red Sox, and posting that pic was in some way therapeutic, believe me, I would have let it go. In that case, party like it's 1999. Whatever works.






Yikes.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 12, 2009, 06:41:50 AM

LoL @ your attempt at some kind of analysis.

I loved watching the Red Sox lose, I love it anytime a team in the AL East outside of the Jays loses.

Again, this thread is here to discuss the 2009 MLB season, so you really shouldn't be surprised that someone, in particular me, posted about the Red Sox being eliminated.  Especially in such a dramatic fashion.

I don't really get your angle here, I'm sure you're upset after being swept, but good luck going forward.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: G. Augusto on October 12, 2009, 07:00:40 AM
Still got the Mets and Rays in the WS.
Mets in 5.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: rowjimmy on October 12, 2009, 07:34:40 AM
Totally psyched to see the Angels step up over the Sox.
Watching their win on Friday was the best part of my long wait for a flight in SeaTac (along with the Alaska Pale Ale.)

Also, I'm no longer cheering for the Phillies as I'd like to see the series played in the frigid temps that they're seeing in Colorado right now. Apparently, that game yesterday was near freezing.


Quote from: G. Augusto on October 12, 2009, 07:00:40 AM
Still got the Mets and Rays in the WS.
Mets in 5.

Awesome.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mehead on October 12, 2009, 08:49:53 AM
Jonathan Papelbum

I find myself rooting for the Angels but I truly don't give a shit as long as the Yanks don't win the whole thing
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 12, 2009, 11:09:46 AM
Quote from: mattstick on October 12, 2009, 06:41:50 AM
LoL @ your attempt at some kind of analysis.

Dude, you pivot like a figure skater.

Were you stoned when you posted this? Serious question.
QuoteSo you can come around this thread and boast when the Red Sox win, but get all pissy when there is a pic of Papelbon walking off the field as a loser...

My friend, the only one here that's pissy is you. I'm just trying to joke around and have a good time. The Sox were eliminated, the Patriots lost . . . and life is great. Shit, it's only sports. Know what I mean? Don't project your bitterness on me.

backs away slowly
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: sls.stormyrider on October 12, 2009, 11:12:34 AM
Quote from: Alumni on October 12, 2009, 11:09:46 AM
it's only sports.

ONLY sports???

the next thing you're gonna say, its only music.

blasphemy
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 12, 2009, 11:13:24 AM
Again with the not-so-subtle jabs.

No I was not stoned.  I posted a picture that made no reference to the Blue Jays or had any kind of spin, it was just a photo.  You immediately turned this into a "my team is better than your team" thread.

As I said before...

Quote from: mattstick on October 11, 2009, 11:16:49 PMif you want to talk about why the Jays suck we can do that, but the fact that Boston was eliminated from the playoffs this afternoon is a little more topical.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 12, 2009, 11:20:22 AM
Quote from: slslbs on October 12, 2009, 11:12:34 AM
Quote from: Alumni on October 12, 2009, 11:09:46 AM
it's only sports.

ONLY sports???

the next thing you're gonna say, its only music.

blasphemy

Yes, it's only sports. I had just accepted a temporary gig at VaTech when the shootings happened. College students shot dead - working with shooting survivors, trying to help them move forward . . . that's real life. Parents with cancer. That's real life. If you can't laugh about sports, my Icculus, what is there?  :?

No need to answer. I'll stick to music on this board. Lesson learned.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 12, 2009, 11:28:51 AM

Ummm, thanks?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 12, 2009, 08:56:54 PM

ROCKTOBER!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: G. Augusto on October 12, 2009, 09:04:22 PM
Wait...so Alumni isn't AlumniGreens?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: sls.stormyrider on October 12, 2009, 09:19:08 PM
after yesterday, it really is Alumni blues
you can put me (probably redrum, birdman, MB, and a few others) in the same category
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: redrum on October 12, 2009, 09:25:12 PM
Quote from: slslbs on October 12, 2009, 09:19:08 PM
after yesterday, it really is Alumni blues
you can put me (probably redrum, birdman, MB, and a few others) in the same category

check.  :|
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 12, 2009, 09:50:01 PM
Nothing like teh intertubes for arguing about nothing much at all. Only thing sillier would be to keep it going. Time to let it be & move on  :beers:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 12, 2009, 10:07:45 PM
Last word!!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: rowjimmy on October 12, 2009, 11:04:58 PM
Third party interjection!!!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Superfreakie on October 12, 2009, 11:30:04 PM
And now for some sophomoric humor.

(http://www.thecubsbrickyard.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/cardinals-shadow-inspiration.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: justjezmund on October 13, 2009, 12:09:43 AM
LOOK OUT LA
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yKSo5xPjLpM/SNxndYFiKkI/AAAAAAAAClc/9t0arwawx6o/s200/p1_phanatic.jpg)
WERE COMING!!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 13, 2009, 02:16:05 PM
Go Angels!

I think the only "edge" the Angles have in this series is their starting pitching.  I think they'll give the yankees a run for their $$$, but I still think the yanks take it and move on to the WS.   :|
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: rowjimmy on October 13, 2009, 02:19:32 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 13, 2009, 02:16:05 PM
Go Angels!

I think the only "edge" the Angles have in this series is their starting pitching.  I think they'll give the yankees a run for their $$$, but I still think the yanks take it and move on to the WS.   :|

I hope you're wrong.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 13, 2009, 02:20:05 PM
Quote from: rowjimmy on October 13, 2009, 02:19:32 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 13, 2009, 02:16:05 PM
Go Angels!

I think the only "edge" the Angles have in this series is their starting pitching.  I think they'll give the yankees a run for their $$$, but I still think the yanks take it and move on to the WS.   :|

I hope you're wrong.

Me too.  Game 1 should be a solid pitchers duel, if you're into that sort of thing. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 13, 2009, 02:53:16 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Five-early-ALCS-storylines-for-the-Yankees-and-A?urn=mlb,195638

As the ALCS prepares to kick off Friday night in the Bronx, Big League Stew takes a look at five early storylines.

1. The Battle of the Big Boys: A bicoastal mega-matchup should lead with premier pitchers and that's exactly what we'll be getting when CC Sabathia(notes) and John Lackey(notes) face off in Friday's Game 1 at Yankee Stadium. Both aces were stellar in the ALDS with Lackey downing Jon Lester(notes) to win his first playoff game since the 2002 World Series and Sabathia shutting down the Twins. The two pitchers already met once this year with Lackey taking home a victory on July 12. CC went 0-2 with a 6.08 ERA in two starts against the Halos in '09.

2. A-Rod continues push to become a "true Yankee": Now that Alex Rodriguez(notes) has seemingly put all those "he stinks in October" stories to bed, the focus shifts to whether he can key the Yankees to their first World Series appearance since he arrived in 2004. He just had a nice Miami getaway with his everpresent Band-Aide and can feel confident after hitting .333/.393/1.000 with five homers and nine RBIs in seven games against the Angels this season. Heavenly totals, no?

3. Will Brian Fuentes(notes) have the ninth to himself?: The Angels closer completed a three-out save to eliminate Boston on Sunday, but it was only the second time since the All-Star break that the lefty had done such a thing. We're coming off an LDS round that saw all four eliminated teams blow ninth-inning saves during their series, so it'll be interesting to see if Angels manager Mike Scioscia carves up the final outs against the Yankees between Fuentes and righty Kevin Jepsen(notes) or falls victim to the closer's fallacy and leaves Fuentes up to his own devices. The Los Angeles bullpen was strong in the ALDS against the Red Sox, surrendering only one run over 6 1/3 innings of work.   

4. Will the rest of the Yankees' lineup report for work? Lost in the hoopla over A-Rod's resurgence, Mark Teixeira's(notes) walkoff and the highights from the championship core was the fact that a large number of Yankees didn't pull their weight against the Twins. Johnny Damon(notes), Nick Swisher(notes), Robinson Cano(notes) and Melky Cabrera(notes) were a combined 6-for-48 (.125) with just two runs, two RBIs, one walk and one extra-base hit. All four likely won't continue to struggle, so which one will step up in ALCS crunch time?

5. Unseen forces: We're likely bound for a lot of cliched talk about "ghosts," what with the Yankees' pinstriped traditions and the Angels dedicating their season to their late teammate, Nick Adenhart(notes). It's my hope, though, that baseball writers and broadcasters remember that Adenhart was a young man tragically killed with two of his friends in an auto accident and is missed dearly by his family, friends and teammates. Talking about how his "memory" is motivating the Angels seems acceptable, but turning him into a Babe Ruth-like "ghost" will be taking it too far. As for the Yankee ghosts talk that Fox is sure to bring up, the team is playing in an new stadium across the street. End of story.   

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: justjezmund on October 15, 2009, 10:09:54 AM
NLCS starts tonight come on PHILS!!!!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 15, 2009, 10:20:49 AM
Even though I'm a Red Sox fan, I'm almost rooting for New York.  If anything will prompt Boston to take a close look at their roster & hit the hot stove market with a sense of purpose, it'll be having the Yankees rain on their parade. If I were less into strategery, though, I'd be all for the Angels.

Rooting interests aside, my money's on NY. Just too much of everything. Plus, the guys who usually disappear in the postseason (A-Rod, Sabathia) aren't.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 15, 2009, 10:23:20 AM
Quote from: Alumni on October 15, 2009, 10:20:49 AM
Even though I'm a Red Sox fan, I'm almost rooting for New York.  If anything will prompt Boston to take a close look at their roster & hit the hot stove market with a sense of purpose, it'll be having the Yankees rain on their parade. If I were less into strategery, though, I'd be all for the Angels.

Rooting interests aside, my money's on NY. Just too much of everything. Plus, the guys who usually disappear in the postseason (A-Rod, Sabathia) aren't.

As a fellow AL East fan, I can't believe you would root for the Yankees.  Consider me thoroughly disappointed in you.    :-P
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 15, 2009, 10:24:24 AM

The media is hyping A-Rod as an October hero already too, ummm - he had a couple good games against the Twins, who realistically, kinda suck.

Let's see how he does against LAA before we start calling him Mr. October II.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 15, 2009, 10:26:34 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 15, 2009, 10:23:20 AM
As a fellow AL East fan, I can't believe you would root for the Yankees.  Consider me thoroughly disappointed in you.    :-P

Yeah, 10 years ago, I would have had to slap myself. But now that I've had a taste of October (November?) success, I don't care as much about rooting against the Yankees. Not when winning seems not impossible [/triple negative]. November-February might be fun if the Empire gives Epstein & Co. a little sense of urgency.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: justjezmund on October 15, 2009, 07:24:50 PM
thats it, I can't take this bon jovi postseason song anymore.  if i didn't have 8 and fall tour coming up I would :samurai:

Edit:oh well as long as the phils stay ahead its a little more bearable,but not much
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Superfreakie on October 16, 2009, 07:50:34 PM
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1474/arodpursepink.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 16, 2009, 11:09:51 PM
Well, that wasn't very exciting. C'mon Anaheim, at least show some fight next time.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 17, 2009, 01:07:20 PM
Quote from: Alumni on October 16, 2009, 11:09:51 PM
Well, that wasn't very exciting. C'mon Anaheim, at least show some fight next time.
That was them putting up a fight man!! The Yankees are just bad asses this year...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 18, 2009, 12:04:31 AM
No...this is actually what I had in mind.  :-P

Great job by the Angels. They almost had it. Then A-Rod homered in the bottom of the 11th to even it at 3...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 18, 2009, 05:06:04 PM
Quote from: Alumni on October 18, 2009, 12:04:31 AM
No...this is actually what I had in mind.  :-P

Great job by the Angels. They almost had it. Then A-Rod homered in the bottom of the 11th to even it at 3...

I hope he continues is new found October ways. Mo's 2 1/3 innings were solid as well, but Tex needs to get it going.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 18, 2009, 09:29:05 PM
Quote from: Alumni on October 18, 2009, 12:04:31 AM
No...this is actually what I had in mind.  :-P

Great job by the Angels. They almost had it. Then A-Rod homered in the bottom of the 11th to even it at 3...

That pitch was the dumbest and cockiest decision by a pitcher ever.  I said before the pitch "If he throws it outside and in and it strikes A-Rod out, he is the cockiest mofo on the planet".  He threw it outside and in and it went out of the park.  He was the cockiest mofo, but he didn't get it to work.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: justjezmund on October 19, 2009, 12:08:49 AM
(http://cache0.bigcartel.com/product_images/2907139/brother-lee-love.jpg)
Simp-Lee amazing
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 19, 2009, 08:17:55 PM
^^^ Sweet tee. Lee was fantastic last night.... Quit the Yanks/Angels game goin' on right now.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 19, 2009, 09:10:04 PM
Nice job by the Angels to slow down the Yankee express. Win game 4, and maybe I'll start to eat my words...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: justjezmund on October 20, 2009, 12:05:31 AM
Phuckin PHILS!!! Rollins at the end FUCK LA!!!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 20, 2009, 09:10:19 AM
Great games last night!  I thought for sure the Angles would blow it after stranding the bases loaded.  I'm really glad they didn't.   
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 20, 2009, 12:27:20 PM
Were they playing in Anaheim or something?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 21, 2009, 12:04:24 AM
Looks like the Angels woke up the giant.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 21, 2009, 12:14:38 AM
Expect the Angels to win tommorrow, so the Yankees can win at home.

New stadium, new team, new homecoming.

Boring, unless you are a Yankees fan.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: art vandelay on October 21, 2009, 10:34:33 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 21, 2009, 12:14:38 AM
Expect the Angels to win tommorrow, so the Yankees can win at home.

New stadium, new team, new homecoming.

Boring, unless you are a Yankees fan.

that makes no sense.

thats besides the point though.  i entered this thread to find out just how bad cliff lee sucks.  im guessing its pretty bad.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 21, 2009, 10:44:43 AM
Overheard last night: Rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for the Chinese government against the dissidents.  :-P

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 21, 2009, 01:09:28 PM
Quote from: art vandelay on October 21, 2009, 10:34:33 AM

that makes no sense.



It makes perfect sense from a business stand point, Art Vandelay.  You think it's just a game?  If the Yankee's lose tommorrow, that is another game featuring MLB's two largest markets, Los Angeles and New York City.  Both of which will attend the game or watch it on television in groups.  Both activities are revenue generators.  Also, more games in general=more money.  Major League Baseball is a business first and foremost and a contest secondarily.  Combine that with the fact that the Yankees are pretty sure they will destroy the Angels when they make it back to Yankee Stadium and I'm sure that the Yankees would be more than willing to take a fall this evening if the Management is smart enough to tell them to fall down.  You didn't realize this was a business?  Maybe you should keep thinking the name of the game is "win at any cost".  The name of the game is "revenue", plain and simple!  Ask your dad, he'll tell you that my business savvy makes a lot more than "no" sense.

Fool. ;)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 22, 2009, 04:18:14 PM
Man, if the yankees win, I'm gonna be rooting for a team from Philly.   :|
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: justjezmund on October 22, 2009, 05:20:50 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 22, 2009, 04:18:14 PM
Man, if the yankees win, I'm gonna be rooting for a team from Philly.   :|
its the only good one you might as well.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 22, 2009, 10:21:20 PM
What a dumb move by Scioscia to pull Lackey, but I'm not complaining just hoping the Yanks can pull this one out.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 22, 2009, 10:23:18 PM
Ouch.

But it's like I said. The Yanks just have too much. Can't keep 'em down this year.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 22, 2009, 10:38:00 PM
Jinx?  :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 22, 2009, 10:38:26 PM
Quote from: Alumni on October 22, 2009, 10:23:18 PM
Ouch.

But it's like I said. The Yanks just have too much. Can't keep 'em down this year.

(http://kevinrobinson.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/epic_fail.jpg)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 22, 2009, 10:38:38 PM
Quote from: Alumni on October 22, 2009, 10:38:00 PM
Jinx?  :-D

Quote from: inourdr on October 22, 2009, 10:21:20 PM
What a dumb move by Scioscia to pull Lackey, but I'm not complaining just hoping the Yanks can pull this one out.

Not by me, but this is one hell of a game!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 22, 2009, 11:26:51 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 22, 2009, 10:38:26 PM
Quote from: Alumni on October 22, 2009, 10:23:18 PM
Ouch.

But it's like I said. The Yanks just have too much. Can't keep 'em down this year.

(http://kevinrobinson.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/epic_fail.jpg)

I've got to hand it to ya.  With the Yank-mes  taking a 3-2 series lead back to the Bronx...you got stones.

BTW, Did I "fail" you when A-Rod saved game 2 or when he went 3-4 in game 4? Just wonderin' :P
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 07:59:34 AM

In-game you came into this thread and pretty much wrote off the Angels.  That = FAIL.

I already said that the Yankees could win the World Series this year, god knows they spent enough to do it, so I'm not quite sure how I fail'd here...

For all the talent those Yankees have they are the least likeable team imaginable, and I've got to give it to Yankee fans - I thought Red Sox fans were annoying, but I had forgotten about the Yankee fans.  Go Angels.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 23, 2009, 08:24:25 AM
Quote from: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 07:59:34 AMI thought Red Sox fans were annoying, but I had forgotten about the Yankee fans.  Go Angels.

and what did inourdr do to deserve that? 

ETA: I thought I wrote off the Angels before the series started :? You're right that my timing last night was spectacular, though  :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 08:34:29 AM

Go Angels.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 23, 2009, 09:06:26 AM
Quote from: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 08:34:29 AM

Go Angels.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 23, 2009, 10:48:06 AM
Quote from: Alumni on October 23, 2009, 08:24:25 AM
Quote from: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 07:59:34 AMI thought Red Sox fans were annoying, but I had forgotten about the Yankee fans.  Go Angels.

and what did inourdr do to deserve that? 

ETA: I thought I wrote off the Angels before the series started :? You're right that my timing last night was spectacular, though  :-D

Don't get him started. We don't see eye to eye on baisbol.  :wink:

Seriously though, even true dyed in the wool fans such as my self CAN'T STAND most Yankee fans. The best part of the Sox 2 WS titles was loosing all the bandwagon jumpers. Yanks NEED to wrap this thing up Saturday cuz we'll need the rest. Phillies have be rolling this postseason.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 11:40:47 AM

insert graphic of nail hitting head here...

QuoteVicente Padilla?

Biggest game of the year. Season on the line. Elimination game in NLCS. And you put everything you've worked for your entire lives in the hands of Vicente motherfucking Padilla?

I know he was decent down the stretch and all,  but he's still Vicente fucking Padilla.

You know what the Dodgers could have used in these playoffs? A pair of fucking testicles—the balls to have taken off their fucking skirts and sent some prospects to Toronto in exchange for Roy Halladay and a chance at a World Series that might not have needed to rely quite so much on the arm of Vicente fucking Padilla.

Serves them fucking right that the team, the Phillies, who actually did step up and part with a few precious fucking prospects for an ace pitcher, beat them and have earned the right to have the piss beaten out of them by the goddamn Yankees.

No, I don't say this because I necessarily wanted Halladay to be moved, I'm just saying it looks good on them, and that this series would likely still be going if the Dodgers hadn't squeezed their little prospects' balls so tightly.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 23, 2009, 11:43:45 AM
I don't think they'll get the piss beaten out of them.   :-)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 23, 2009, 12:19:15 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 07:59:34 AM

In-game you came into this thread and pretty much wrote off the Angels.  That = FAIL.

I already said that the Yankees could win the World Series this year, god knows they spent enough to do it, so I'm not quite sure how I fail'd here...

For all the talent those Yankees have they are the least likeable team imaginable, and I've got to give it to Yankee fans - I thought Red Sox fans were annoying, but I had forgotten about the Yankee fans.  Go Angels.
Your just bitter cause your team sucks!! ... But we want you to be happy!!! ... But you have to get over it when the Yankees win the World series...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 23, 2009, 12:21:15 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on October 23, 2009, 12:19:15 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 07:59:34 AM

In-game you came into this thread and pretty much wrote off the Angels.  That = FAIL.

I already said that the Yankees could win the World Series this year, god knows they spent enough to do it, so I'm not quite sure how I fail'd here...

For all the talent those Yankees have they are the least likeable team imaginable, and I've got to give it to Yankee fans - I thought Red Sox fans were annoying, but I had forgotten about the Yankee fans.  Go Angels.
Your just bitter cause your team sucks!! ... But we want you to be happy!!! ... But you have to get over it when IF the Yankees win the World series...

FYP. Don't be "that guy".
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 23, 2009, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: inourdr on October 23, 2009, 12:21:15 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on October 23, 2009, 12:19:15 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 07:59:34 AM

In-game you came into this thread and pretty much wrote off the Angels.  That = FAIL.

I already said that the Yankees could win the World Series this year, god knows they spent enough to do it, so I'm not quite sure how I fail'd here...

For all the talent those Yankees have they are the least likeable team imaginable, and I've got to give it to Yankee fans - I thought Red Sox fans were annoying, but I had forgotten about the Yankee fans.  Go Angels.
Your just bitter cause your team sucks!! ... But we want you to be happy!!! ... But you have to get over it when IF the Yankees win the World series...

FYP. Don't be "that guy".


I don't know why... but this year I am feeling obnoxiously fearless...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 12:26:01 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 09, 2009, 06:12:46 AM

The best part about the 09 Yankees is that even if they win the World Series they're still a bunch of overpaid losers.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 23, 2009, 12:31:33 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 12:26:01 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 09, 2009, 06:12:46 AM

The best part about the 09 Yankees is that even if they win the World Series they're still a bunch of overpaid losers.
Well I'm hoping next year they sign Roy Halladay so at least they will have one guy you like...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 23, 2009, 12:32:42 PM
^^^  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 12:38:45 PM

You guys have your pics posted up here yet?

http://www.yankeesfanssuck.com/

You guys can sign Halladay for his declining years, 'cause you'll never develop a real starting pitcher..
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 23, 2009, 12:51:15 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 11:48:53 AM

Someone is bitter...


And I was clapping at the fact that we might have SOMEONE you'll like. Agree on the declining years part.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 12:59:31 PM

FACT: 25 teams in MLB have a better chance of getting to the playoffs than the Blue Jays even before a game is played every year because of the Yankees/Red Sox budgets and the uneven schedules.

In the only 2 seasons that the Blue Jays had the highest payroll in MLB, they won the World Series both years.

The Yankees have had the highest payroll in baseball for what, 12 years?

I can't wait to see you guys gripe about Burnett when he turns to junk.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 23, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
Q: What do the Yankees, Mets, Phillies, Tigers, Cubs, Indians(!), and Angels have in common?

A: On opening day, all of them had a higher median salary* than the Red Sox. 

Obviously, the bottom line matters, but I like median salaries because they're more reflective of the distribution of actual and potential free agents. A single star can balloon a payroll, but what matters for competitiveness is depth. How many quality players in your starting lineup, bullpen, rotation, bench.

2009 was the first time in the last 5 years or so that the Yanks topped that list. And man, did they top it.

Top 5
$ 5,200,000 New York Yankees                                         
$ 2,612,500 New York Mets                                         
$ 2,500,000 Philadelphia Phillies                                         
$ 2,237,500 Detroit Tigers                                         
$ 2,200,000 Chicago Cubs                                         
                                         
$ 1,800,000 Los Angeles Angels (7th)                                         
$ 1,625,000 Boston Red Sox (8th)                                         

$ 932,500 Toronto Blue Jays (21st)

ETA:

Getting back to matt's point: the Jays' median salary in 1992 was $920k. A few years ago, it was over $2M. Why so stingy these days? Seriously, the Maple Leafs have a higher median salary than they Jays. And hockey is capped.                                         
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 23, 2009, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 12:59:31 PM

FACT: 25 teams in MLB have a better chance of getting to the playoffs than the Blue Jays even before a game is played every year because of the Yankees/Red Sox budgets and the uneven schedules.

In the only 2 seasons that the Blue Jays had the highest payroll in MLB, they won the World Series both years.

The Yankees have had the highest payroll in baseball for what, 12 years?

I can't wait to see you guys gripe about Burnett when he turns to junk.

You won't hear me gripe about Burnett, I've already expressed my disdain for signing him. The owners should have voted for a salary cap.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 01:39:18 PM
Quote from: Alumni on October 23, 2009, 01:13:15 PM
Getting back to matt's point: the Jays' median salary in 1992 was $920k. A few years ago, it was over $2M. Why so stingy these days? Seriously, the Maple Leafs have a higher median salary than they Jays. And hockey is capped.                                       

My guess is they're trying not to lose money?  The Blue Jays are a relatively cheap source of media content for a communications company that happens to hold licences to broadcast sports in Canada.

Ratings are in the toilet, attendance is poor for games that don't involve the Red Sox or Yankees, and the club has some young talent but will have to get amazingly lucky to even get a sniff at 3rd.

The Leafs and hockey are an institution here, the Jays are popular when they win - and since most people have figured out that they have a shot of winning maybe twice every one hundred years, the "fans" stay home.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 23, 2009, 01:46:00 PM
On a side note, I think Matt should come down for the home opener at Camden Yards in 2010.  O's-Jays!   :-D
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 23, 2009, 02:39:03 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 21, 2009, 12:14:38 AM
Expect the Angels to win tommorrow, so the Yankees can win at home.

New stadium, new team, new homecoming.

Boring, unless you are a Yankees fan.

Told ya'll.

Baring some kind of "miracle", expect the Yankees to dominate the next game in the series to the delight of their home crowd.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 23, 2009, 02:41:07 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 23, 2009, 02:39:03 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 21, 2009, 12:14:38 AM
Expect the Angels to win tommorrow, so the Yankees can win at home.

New stadium, new team, new homecoming.

Boring, unless you are a Yankees fan.

Told ya'll.

Baring some kind of "miracle", expect the Yankees to dominate the next game in the series to the delight of their home crowd.

I hope this goes to an epic game 7. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 23, 2009, 02:44:22 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 23, 2009, 02:41:07 PM

I hope this goes to an epic game 7.

I agree.  However, I feel like the Yankees really want to win the WS.  For them to allow it to go to an epic game 7 would be incredible for business, unless they let their fans down and fail to win.  I have a feeling they'll keep it safe and dominate in the next game.

That said, if they intentionally lost last night, they did it in epic fashion.  They really are a good team.  I may not like their fans or business practices, but they have put together a solid squad.

Kudos go to the Yankees.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 23, 2009, 02:48:10 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 23, 2009, 02:44:22 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 23, 2009, 02:41:07 PM

I hope this goes to an epic game 7.

I agree.  However, I feel like the Yankees really want to win the WS.  For them to allow it to go to an epic game 7 would be incredible for business, unless they let their fans down and fail to win.  I have a feeling they'll keep it safe and dominate in the next game.

That said, if they intentionally lost last night, they did it in epic fashion.  They really are a good team.  I may not like their fans or business practices, but they have put together a solid squad.

Kudos go to the Yankees.

:roll:

If the Angels dont "really want to win a WS" they're in the wrong business.  I would say they want it just as bad.  And no offense, but you're crazy if you think the Yankees tried to lose that game last night. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 02:49:21 PM
When I think of great teams, I think of these Angels, or last years Rays... the Yankees are a collection of All-Stars with big contracts.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 23, 2009, 02:59:50 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 23, 2009, 02:48:10 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 23, 2009, 02:44:22 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 23, 2009, 02:41:07 PM

I hope this goes to an epic game 7.

I agree.  However, I feel like the Yankees really want to win the WS.  For them to allow it to go to an epic game 7 would be incredible for business, unless they let their fans down and fail to win.  I have a feeling they'll keep it safe and dominate in the next game.

That said, if they intentionally lost last night, they did it in epic fashion.  They really are a good team.  I may not like their fans or business practices, but they have put together a solid squad.

Kudos go to the Yankees.

:roll:

If the Angels dont "really want to win a WS" they're in the wrong business.  I would say they want it just as bad.  And no offense, but you're crazy if you think the Yankees tried to lose that game last night.

I never said they didn't want to win.  I don't think they are playing better ball than the Yankees right now.  Since they aren't playing as well as the Yankees, they are not in a position of power that allows them to do things like lose a game to force it to go home so that they can win and party on their own turf (like the Yankees).

There is as much chance that the Yankees allowed the Angels to win as there is that they lost to the Angels last night when they wanted to win.  They clearly demonstrated control of the game early on, and it was amazing to see the Angels come back, the Yankees again demonstrate control, and then to see the Angels come back again.

Especially after the drubbing the Yankees gave the Angels in the game before.

You roll your eyes towards me, yet you don't point out to how my thoughts don't make sense.  Especially after I correctly predicted an Angels victory last night.

Like I predicted that Angels victory, I'm pretty confident that the Yankees will totally dominate game six in game four's fashion and the home crowd will get an AWESOME show. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 23, 2009, 03:20:18 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 23, 2009, 02:59:50 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 23, 2009, 02:48:10 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 23, 2009, 02:44:22 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 23, 2009, 02:41:07 PM

I hope this goes to an epic game 7.

I agree.  However, I feel like the Yankees really want to win the WS.  For them to allow it to go to an epic game 7 would be incredible for business, unless they let their fans down and fail to win.  I have a feeling they'll keep it safe and dominate in the next game.

That said, if they intentionally lost last night, they did it in epic fashion.  They really are a good team.  I may not like their fans or business practices, but they have put together a solid squad.

Kudos go to the Yankees.

:roll:

If the Angels dont "really want to win a WS" they're in the wrong business.  I would say they want it just as bad.  And no offense, but you're crazy if you think the Yankees tried to lose that game last night.

I never said they didn't want to win.  I don't think they are playing better ball than the Yankees right now.  Since they aren't playing as well as the Yankees, they are not in a position of power that allows them to do things like lose a game to force it to go home so that they can win and party on their own turf (like the Yankees).

There is as much chance that the Yankees allowed the Angels to win as there is that they lost to the Angels last night when they wanted to win.  They clearly demonstrated control of the game early on, and it was amazing to see the Angels come back, the Yankees again demonstrate control, and then to see the Angels come back again.

Especially after the drubbing the Yankees gave the Angels in the game before.

You roll your eyes towards me, yet you don't point out to how my thoughts don't make sense.  Especially after I correctly predicted an Angels victory last night.

Like I predicted that Angels victory, I'm pretty confident that the Yankees will totally dominate game six in game four's fashion and the home crowd will get an AWESOME show.

Perhaps I am just misunderstanding the way you are wording this?  But I just have a hard time believing the Yankees let the Angels win.  You go for the Jugular when the opportunity presents itself.  You don't let a team hang around, allowing their confidence to grow, just so you can have a chance at celebrating on your home turf.

Also, I'm having a hard time believing you even watched the game last night.  How could you possibly believe that they Yankees controlled the game early on?  The Angels dropped a 4 spot on the yanks in the first inning before Burnett could even record an out.  And Lackey clearly brought his "A" game last night.  He made the Yankee hitters look like Minor Leaguers for the first few innings. 

:?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 23, 2009, 03:27:01 PM
I watched the highlights on ESPN, I didn't watch the game.  I thought it was 4-2 yanks at the beginning?  If I was wrong, I apologize for an incorrect summary, I was out at a club partying it up and didn't have time for couch surfing, especially since the Brewers made an early exit.

Perhaps my summation of the game is incorrect.  But I predicted that the Yankees would bow down yesterday, and then the Angels won.  If the Angels took an early lead, that leads me to believe more so that my theory is correct, as opposed to the contrary.

MLB is a business.  More games=more money.  The money is primary and winning is secondary, especially to a club like the Yankees.  Clinching a division series never is more profitable than when you do it at home.  Why you don't understand this aspect of the MLB is beyond me.  When you invest so much money on an all star team, you don't do it just to win, you do it to make money on that investment.  The Yankees are all too intelligent in this department.  Kind of like throwing a ball with a 1-2 count, it's calculated risk.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 03:42:03 PM

In games with professionals, you just can't will yourself to win or lose.

If you don't compete you lose - if you compete you may or may not win.

The Yankees are a solid collection of talent but on any given day a good pitcher can shut down a talented hitter, Lackey did that for most of the game.

Similarly, the Yankee pitchers cannot magically throw balls through the strike zone without the Angels hitters having an opportunity to hit them - they have to perform, and if they make mistakes (which is a something all humans do), the Angels have a shot at winning.


Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 23, 2009, 03:45:01 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 03:42:03 PM

In games with professionals, you just can't will yourself to win or lose.

If you don't compete you lose - if you compete you may or may not win.

The Yankees are a solid collection of talent but on any given day a good pitcher can shut down a talented hitter, Lackey did that for most of the game.

Similarly, the Yankee pitchers cannot magically throw balls through the strike zone without the Angels hitters having an opportunity to hit them - they have to perform, and if they make mistakes (which is a something all humans do), the Angels have a shot at winning.

It takes a ton of skill to control a game when your only object is to win.  It takes a shit ton more skill to control a game that you want to lose, when you want to want to win the next game while another goal is not making it look like you want to lose.  This is why if the Yankees wanted to lose yesterday, they are masters.  Not only did they accomplish their task, but they accomplished it without making it look like they wanted to.

That is what makes a team great.

Not wins and losses, but game control.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 03:46:54 PM

Winning the World Series is worth a whole lot more to that franchise than an extra home game.

If they possess this great "game control" why did they lose regular season games to teams that would go on to lose over 90 games?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 23, 2009, 03:52:37 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 03:46:54 PM

Winning the World Series is worth a whole lot more to that franchise than an extra home game.

If they possess this great "game control" why did they lose regular season games to teams that would go on to lose over 90 games?

They know they will win game six is why and then they will have a different opponent to deal with, the Phillies.  (Or the Dodgers...)

If they don't possess great "game control", why are they about to clinch the league title at home?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 03:56:42 PM

Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm.

Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.

Homer: Thank you, dear.

Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.

Homer: Oh, how does it work?

Lisa: It doesn't work.

Homer: Uh-huh.

Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.

Homer: Uh-huh.

Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?

[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]

Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.


Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 23, 2009, 04:39:13 PM
Faux, if you're going to make that claim, at least cite the most solid piece of evidence for it.  8-)

You're Phil Hughes, the most reliable Yankee reliever not named Rivera. Swingin Vladdy Guerrero is at the plate. You get the count to 1-2. Guerrero should be a goner. His plate discipline sucks to begin with. And with two strikes? You might as well be out of the inning already.

So where do you put pitch 4? Over the plate and an inch or two above the knees. There's missing your spot and then there's sheer incompetence beyond all comprehension. My guess is Hughes choked. But if I were going to tell a conspiracy story, I'd try to find a specific moment where you could swing the game. And that moment is it. Throw a shoulder high fastball, and no way Vladdy lays off it. He either swings and misses or pops out. Either way, the inning is over.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 23, 2009, 05:56:24 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 23, 2009, 03:52:37 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 03:46:54 PM

Winning the World Series is worth a whole lot more to that franchise than an extra home game.

If they possess this great "game control" why did they lose regular season games to teams that would go on to lose over 90 games?

They know they will win game six is why and then they will have a different opponent to deal with, the Phillies.  (Or the Dodgers...)

If they don't possess great "game control", why are they about to clinch the league title at home?

The players don't give two shits as to if the team makes more money by having an extra home game. You're "theory" of a thrown game is laughable.

Burnett's thoughts: Maybe I'll give up a bunch of runs before I even record an out. Sure, I'll look like a douche bag, but the team will make more money IF we wrap this thing up at home on Saturday.

If the Yankees we're willing to lose last night so they can win on their home turf, and make more money then they CLEARLY learned nothing in 2004. (up 3-0. lost 4 straight)

And what do you mean by "(Or the Dodgers...)" You do know they've been eliminated don't you?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 24, 2009, 02:02:20 AM
The players give a billion shits about making the owners happy.  Thinking otherwise is not only wrong, but also slightly rediculous.  The yankee's owners gave them all huge salaries.  The yankee's owners put them all on a team that is about to win the World Series.  The Yankee's owners are the reason these guys are getting as much attention as they are right now.

To think they don't care, is rediculous.

Nope, didn't know the Phillies clenched it already.  Didn't really care that much about it.

Like I said earlier, this years series has been a SNOOZE-FEST.  Only slightly interesting if you're a Phillies or NY fan.

But I'm glad you guys are enjoying it.

I hope you enjoy the Yankees bragging about their dynasty.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 26, 2009, 04:19:26 PM
Not the domination I was expecting, but I totally just told ya'll.  NY Yankees vs. Philadelphia Phillies... no matter who wins, it'll happen within a radius of 100 miles.

Not nearly as satisfying as the Twins versus St. Louis or Angels versus Dodgers or even the Dodgers versus Yankees would have been.

Boo on you MLB!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: justjezmund on October 26, 2009, 05:05:06 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 26, 2009, 04:19:26 PM
Not the domination I was expecting, but I totally just told ya'll.  NY Yankees vs. Philadelphia Phillies... no matter who wins, it'll happen within a radius of 100 miles.

Not nearly as satisfying as the Twins versus St. Louis or Angels versus Dodgers or even the Dodgers versus Yankees would have been.

Boo on you MLB!

no way its phillies or nothing
(http://www.uncoached.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/hot_phillies_jersey_1.jpg)
how can you disagree with her? :|
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 26, 2009, 05:05:55 PM
She looks like her poop smells aweful.  It would be way cooler if she had on a Brewers jersey ;)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 05:17:32 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 23, 2009, 03:56:42 PM

Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm.

Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Dad.

Homer: Thank you, dear.

Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.

Homer: Oh, how does it work?

Lisa: It doesn't work.

Homer: Uh-huh.

Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.

Homer: Uh-huh.

Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?

[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]

Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 26, 2009, 05:24:16 PM
Repeating something inapplicable and not even vaguely funny doesn't make it applicable and funny.

Irony'd!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 05:35:29 PM

Fauxpax: The Yankees won last night, must be because they have great game control and they threw that game in LA.

Lisa: That's specious reasoning, Fauxpax.

Fauxpax: Thank you dear.

Lisa: By your logic I could claim that the Yankees have magical powers to help them win baseball games

Fauxpax: Oh, how does it work?

Lisa: It doesn't work.

Fauxpax: Uh-huh.

Lisa: It's just stupid conjecture.

Fauxpax: Uh-huh.

Lisa: But that Yankees are in the World Series, aren't they.

[Fauxpax spews some more random shit]

Fauxpax: Lisa, I'm going to believe your theory.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 26, 2009, 05:39:54 PM
I understood what you were going for, but it still doesn't work.

Mattstick: The Yankees won last night, it must be because they are not a good Baseball team.

Lisa:  That's specious reasoning, Mattstick

Mattstick: Thank you dear.

Lisa:  By your logic I could claim that the least skilled teams in Baseball magically beat the more skilled games.

mattstick:  Oh, how does it work?

Lisa:  It doesn't work.

Mattstick: Uh-huh

Lisa: It's just stupid conjecture

Mattstick:  Uh-huh

Lisa: But the Yankees are in the world series, aren't they?

Mattstick spews some random shit.

Mattstick:  Lisa, I'm going to believe your theory.  The Yankees are the worst team in the American League. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: justjezmund on October 26, 2009, 05:40:37 PM
^^^ :lol: nice
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 05:51:08 PM

So if your theory is really correct the Yankees will win (or lose) the World Series in 7 games, because it's all about home game revenue?

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 26, 2009, 05:54:07 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 05:51:08 PM

So if your theory is really correct the Yankees will win (or lose) the World Series in 7 games, because it's all about home game revenue?

Nope.  It's all about total revenue generated.  The Yankees felt out rather quickly in the first two games that they were the dominant force.  Than they used this dominance to their advantage.

We'll see how it goes in this series.  If there is a dominator, expect a team to win two rather quickly, then drop one, win one, drop one win one.  If there is no dominant team and the games are close, expect it to end up getting dirty (even if it is a sweep).  If the Phillies are the dominant team, expect it to only go to five games, because their style is win at any cost.

You are totally perverting my "theory" to make it sound like I said something I didn't. 

Edit:  Also, the World Series is a different type of "ballgame" than the Championship Series.  I expect this one to be a little more fun than some others.  Especially considering the rabidity of Philadelphia and New York sports fans.  They're going to get paid (the owners) no matter what happens now.  The Yankees getting two extra games out of the Angels was only icing on the cake.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 05:57:33 PM

So the Yankees possessed the "game control" to beat the Angels when they decided they wanted to, but they may or may not possess that "game control" to defeat the Phillies?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 26, 2009, 06:00:14 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 05:57:33 PM

So the Yankees possessed the "game control" to beat the Angels when they decided they wanted to, but they may or may not possess that "game control" to defeat the Phillies?

Exactly.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: justjezmund on October 26, 2009, 06:26:10 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 26, 2009, 06:00:14 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 26, 2009, 05:57:33 PM

So the Yankees possessed the "game control" to beat the Angels when they decided they wanted to, but they may or may not possess that "game control" to defeat the Phillies?

Exactly.
truth has been told
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: art vandelay on October 26, 2009, 07:26:59 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 21, 2009, 01:09:28 PM
Quote from: art vandelay on October 21, 2009, 10:34:33 AM

that makes no sense.



It makes perfect sense from a business stand point, Art Vandelay.  You think it's just a game?  If the Yankee's lose tommorrow, that is another game featuring MLB's two largest markets, Los Angeles and New York City.  Both of which will attend the game or watch it on television in groups.  Both activities are revenue generators.  Also, more games in general=more money.  Major League Baseball is a business first and foremost and a contest secondarily.  Combine that with the fact that the Yankees are pretty sure they will destroy the Angels when they make it back to Yankee Stadium and I'm sure that the Yankees would be more than willing to take a fall this evening if the Management is smart enough to tell them to fall down.  You didn't realize this was a business?  Maybe you should keep thinking the name of the game is "win at any cost".  The name of the game is "revenue", plain and simple!  Ask your dad, he'll tell you that my business savvy makes a lot more than "no" sense.

Fool. ;)

the MLB is a business first, but for individual teams in the playoffs, winning is secondary to nothing.  a team would never risk losing a series just so they could have another game at home.  there are no guaranteed wins in professional sports, and a team would never lose a playoff game on purpose.  if teams really cared about playing more home games and extending their series sweeps would never happen.

im not gonna ask my dad about this, because he doesnt know anything at sports.

but i did just ask someone whos worked in professional baseball for the past 20+ years and he pretty much laughed at the thought of teams losing on purpose for the sake of additional revenue.

ETA: los angeles is not the second biggest market in baseball.  there were NLCS tickets available for 50 dollars.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on October 26, 2009, 07:56:32 PM
Quote from: JustJezmund on October 26, 2009, 05:05:06 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 26, 2009, 04:19:26 PM
Not the domination I was expecting, but I totally just told ya'll.  NY Yankees vs. Philadelphia Phillies... no matter who wins, it'll happen within a radius of 100 miles.

Not nearly as satisfying as the Twins versus St. Louis or Angels versus Dodgers or even the Dodgers versus Yankees would have been.

Boo on you MLB!

no way its phillies or nothing
(http://www.uncoached.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/hot_phillies_jersey_1.jpg)
how can you disagree with her? :|
Her shorts are the most epic shorts I have ever seen... But the shirt has to go bye bye, I'm sorry...

and personally  the best match up in the series would have been the Yankees vs. Dodgers... One of the oldest rivalries in baseball...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 26, 2009, 09:29:31 PM
Remember when the Red Sox crushed the Cards in the World Series? They had more of this thing called game control in that series than the Yanks had against the Angels. Why didn't they win that World Series in Boston? Especially since Epstein is so savvy.

I just don't believe it, and I enjoy being contrarian.  8-)

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 27, 2009, 09:36:13 AM

It's not contrarian to ignore silly conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 27, 2009, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: Alumni on October 26, 2009, 09:29:31 PM
Remember when the Red Sox crushed the Cards in the World Series? They had more of this thing called game control in that series than the Yanks had against the Angels. Why didn't they win that World Series in Boston? Especially since Epstein is so savvy.

I just don't believe it, and I enjoy being contrarian.  8-)

Because they had never won one before, and there was a sweet lunar eclipse that night.

Also, the fact that Boston won that World Series was so good for business for MLB as a whole that they had absolutely no reason to get greedy about it...and it seemed like a better story with Boston winning 8 games in a row!

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 27, 2009, 05:42:35 PM
Quote from: mattstick on October 27, 2009, 09:36:13 AM

It's not contrarian to ignore silly conspiracy theories.

Is it contrarian to not ignore them?  Or since you haven't ignored mine, can I therefore assume my theory isn't silly nor is it a "conspiracy" theory.  It is a theory regarding tactics.  There is a definately a difference.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 28, 2009, 10:06:34 AM

Rollins says the Phils will win in 5.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 28, 2009, 10:28:04 AM
Quote from: mattstick on October 28, 2009, 10:06:34 AM

Rollins says the Phils will win in 5.

I would LOVE to see that.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 28, 2009, 03:36:09 PM
I would still like to have seen the Twins vs. the Cards or LA vs. LA.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 28, 2009, 07:16:23 PM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on October 28, 2009, 03:36:09 PM
I would still like to have seen the Twins vs. the Cards or LA vs. LA.

I would like to have seen Joe Torre beat his old club. Yankee fans would have loved the chance to beat Torre. Plus the whole bicoastal thing. NYY v LAD would have been a nice series.

I like the Phillies. I'll be happy to root for them. If I were a gambler, though, my money would be on NY in 6.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 28, 2009, 09:19:13 PM
^^^ Thats funny, I was just coming in here to say Yankees in 6.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: phuzzyfish12 on October 28, 2009, 09:20:16 PM
Quote from: inourdr on October 28, 2009, 09:19:13 PM
^^^ Thats funny, I was just coming in here to say Yankees in 6.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 28, 2009, 09:39:00 PM
Fuck, Utley's swingin' a hot stick tonight.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 28, 2009, 09:40:56 PM
Utley is pwning Sabathia so far tonight
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 28, 2009, 09:41:33 PM
Nothing like a nice jinx to get the series started.

Meh. I said NY in 6. I didn't say which 4, tho. :-P
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 28, 2009, 09:43:21 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 28, 2009, 09:40:56 PM
Utley is pwning Sabathia so far tonight

I have no idea why that last pitch was thrown inside.  :shakehead:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 29, 2009, 08:55:44 AM
Gotta tip my cap to Lee. He pitched a gem last night.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 29, 2009, 09:34:16 AM
Quote from: inourdr on October 29, 2009, 08:55:44 AM
Gotta tip my cap to Lee. He pitched a gem last night.

Emphasis on pitched.

He doesn't throw that hard. He doesn't seem to have incredibly good "stuff." But he obviously knows how to get batters out. I underestimated the guy.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on October 29, 2009, 09:35:35 AM
So Matt, are you ready to admit how wrong you were about Cliff Lee?

Roy Halladay, LOL.

Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Superfreakie on October 29, 2009, 07:51:06 PM
Quote from: Alumni on October 29, 2009, 09:34:16 AM
Quote from: inourdr on October 29, 2009, 08:55:44 AM
Gotta tip my cap to Lee. He pitched a gem last night.

Emphasis on pitched.

He doesn't throw that hard. He doesn't seem to have incredibly good "stuff." But he obviously knows how to get batters out. I underestimated the guy.

Dude, was straight up nasty. Filthy, filthy pitching. Had them chasing everything. Can't wait to see if Pedro is going to bring it. Speed isn't everything, and many have proved that over time, but if you don't have speed, you better have stellar command or you're going to get rocked. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Superfreakie on October 29, 2009, 09:09:49 PM
Let's go Pedro. I've always loved watching Pedro pitch.....reminds of my Expos  :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 30, 2009, 12:30:20 AM
Pedro did well enough to win, but he didn't get much help from the Phils' bats.

Unfortunately for Philly, Cliff Lee can't start 4 games.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on October 30, 2009, 03:40:06 AM
Quote from: antelope19 on October 29, 2009, 09:35:35 AM
So Matt, are you ready to admit how wrong you were about Cliff Lee?

Roy Halladay, LOL.

Halladay is still a better pitcher than Cliff Lee.  Every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Lee looks great, so yes, I'm ready to admit that the Phillies will not be disappointed they got him instead of Halladay.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: inourdr on October 30, 2009, 08:43:39 AM
Quote from: Alumni on October 30, 2009, 12:30:20 AM
Pedro did well enough to win, but he didn't get much help from the Phils' bats.

Unfortunately for Philly, Cliff Lee can't start 4 games.

You've got to give credit to AJ. He pitched a hell of a game....for him. He was actually locating his pitches and kept his bender out of the dirt.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on October 30, 2009, 11:48:13 AM
Good point. It isn't fair or reasonable to talk up Lee's performance on Wed and not give the same credit to Burnett.

File it under: sports fans aren't always completely rational.  :-)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on November 01, 2009, 07:41:41 PM
Big game tonight for the Phils, after NY's come-from-behind win on Saturday.

Will Philly win tonight and make a series of it, or does NY put the hammer down?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: redrum on November 01, 2009, 10:25:56 PM
the phil's need to score a coupla runs here
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mehead on November 01, 2009, 10:47:29 PM
they got 1 inning to do it..it will be Mo time in the 9th
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on November 01, 2009, 11:08:50 PM
HaHa - there it is  8-)

'course it's only tied, now. Not over yet...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mehead on November 01, 2009, 11:10:46 PM
Fuck yeah!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on November 02, 2009, 02:55:17 PM
If you're scoring at home, this is . . . . I don't know what this is.

On teh internet, it's scored a covering third base fail.

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q109/StatMan79/damondouble.gif)
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on November 02, 2009, 03:00:18 PM
Quote from: Alumni on November 02, 2009, 02:55:17 PM
If you're scoring at home, this is . . . . I don't know what this is.

On teh internet, it's scored a covering third base fail.

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q109/StatMan79/damondouble.gif)

Gotta be 2 stolen bases, right?
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on November 02, 2009, 03:11:59 PM
Yeah, I guess that's all it really is.

I didn't see the game yesterday, but I came across that image this morning and went  :-o
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on November 04, 2009, 11:39:50 PM
Quote from: Alumni on October 28, 2009, 07:16:23 PM
I like the Phillies. I'll be happy to root for them. If I were a gambler, though, my money would be on NY in 6.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: tet on November 04, 2009, 11:54:28 PM
booyah!!   :banana: :rockout: :rawk: :rawk: :rockout: :banana:


Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mehead on November 05, 2009, 01:51:01 AM
fuck the Yankees
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: phuzzyfish12 on November 05, 2009, 08:30:26 AM
Quote from: tet on November 04, 2009, 11:54:28 PM
booyah!!   :banana: :rockout: :rawk: :rawk: :rockout: :banana:

:rockout: :rockout: I'm heading to the Yankees parade tomorrow. Super excited!!  :rockout: :rockout:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on November 05, 2009, 09:04:25 AM
How do people get excited for the Yankees winning?  I know it's been almost ten years, but doesn't the way the Yanks buy players and such, rather than utilize the farm teams, take the excitement out of the win? 

I heard a great analogy this morning about it.  It's like an old Twilight Zone episode where this dude wishes he would win every pool match he plays.  The problem is, he begins to lose the excitement to the game because he already knows the outcome. 
I kind of feel like this is how Yankee fans should feel.  The excitement isn't in the winning anymore. 
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: justjezmund on November 05, 2009, 12:07:55 PM
Quote from: mehead on November 05, 2009, 01:51:01 AM
fuck the Yankees
me today>:samurai:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on November 05, 2009, 12:49:47 PM
Quote from: Mr Minor on November 05, 2009, 09:04:25 AM
How do people get excited for the Yankees winning?  I know it's been almost ten years, but doesn't the way the Yanks buy players and such, rather than utilize the farm teams, take the excitement out of the win? 

I heard a great analogy this morning about it.  It's like an old Twilight Zone episode where this dude wishes he would win every pool match he plays.  The problem is, he begins to lose the excitement to the game because he already knows the outcome. 
I kind of feel like this is how Yankee fans should feel.  The excitement isn't in the winning anymore.

It's easy to cheer for a winner, even if the players are a bunch of overpaid losers.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on November 05, 2009, 01:20:55 PM
Quote from: Mr Minor on November 05, 2009, 09:04:25 AM
How do people get excited for the Yankees winning?  I know it's been almost ten years, but doesn't the way the Yanks buy players and such, rather than utilize the farm teams, take the excitement out of the win? 

I heard a great analogy this morning about it.  It's like an old Twilight Zone episode where this dude wishes he would win every pool match he plays.  The problem is, he begins to lose the excitement to the game because he already knows the outcome. 
I kind of feel like this is how Yankee fans should feel.  The excitement isn't in the winning anymore.


Fielders
Derek Jeter-Farm System
Jorge Posada-Farm System
Robby Cano-Farm System
Melky Cabrera-Farm System
Bret Gardner-Farm System


Pitchers:
Mariano Rivera-Farm System
Andy Petite - 1990 MLB draft by Yanks, but went to collage and played with Yanks as a rookie in 1996
Joba Chamberlain-Farm System
Phil Hughes-Farm System
David Robertson-Farm System
Phil Coke-Farm System
Alfredo Aceves-Farm System
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on November 05, 2009, 01:29:20 PM
Petite was re-signed as a free agent.

So you've listed a small and mostly insignifigant portion of the roster, I guess you've proved the point...?  Also, being able to sign players to big contracts and then absorb them (Carl Pavano, the future AJ Burnett) is the luxury of the huge payroll, not just signing new players and keeping your veterans as they move into big contracts.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on November 05, 2009, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: mattstick on November 05, 2009, 01:29:20 PM
Petite was re-signed as a free agent.

So you've listed a small and mostly insignifigant portion of the roster, I guess you've proved the point...?  Also, being able to sign players to big contracts and then absorb them (Carl Pavano, the future AJ Burnett) is the luxury of the huge payroll, not just signing new players and keeping your veterans as they move into big contracts.
Yes!! I knew this... The Yankees fork out the bucks to keep their big stars around like Jeter, Mariano, and Posada and still spend the dough to ring in players like A-Rod, Teixeira and Sabathia... but they still utilize their farm system the best they can...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on November 05, 2009, 01:40:47 PM
It'll be interesting to see what the Yanks do this year with jeter, Damon and Matsui all needing new contracts.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Alumni on November 05, 2009, 01:46:45 PM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on November 05, 2009, 01:35:15 PM
Yes!! I knew this... The Yankees fork out the bucks to keep their big stars around like Jeter, Mariano, and Posada and still spend the dough to ring in players like A-Rod, Teixeira and Sabathia... but they still utilize their farm system the best they can...

You both have a point. A productive farm system is the difference between a generally successful big-market club and a champion big-market club. Look at the failure of Boston's attempts to load up on all stars at the expense of its farm system before the current ownership took over, and NY's failures earlier in the decade.

Having a big payroll to start with makes a difference at least three ways.

(1) You can afford to pay your home-grown talent AND get top free agents.
(2) You can compete every year. You don't work with windows of opportunity (before you have to cut expensive home-grown players loose)
(3) You can afford to screw up when signing free agents (Hideki Irabu, Carl Pavano, Eric Gagne, Matt Clement). A bad signing for NYY or BOS or DET isn't the end of the world. A bad signing for Arizona or San Diego is a disaster.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on November 05, 2009, 02:18:20 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on November 05, 2009, 01:40:47 PM
It'll be interesting to see what the Yanks do this year with jeter, Damon and Matsui all needing new contracts.
One of them will most likely go... but it won't be Jeter!!! Matsui came through big in the last game, but I still think Damon is the better choice...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Superfreakie on November 06, 2009, 12:15:43 AM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on November 05, 2009, 02:18:20 PM
Quote from: antelope19 on November 05, 2009, 01:40:47 PM
It'll be interesting to see what the Yanks do this year with jeter, Damon and Matsui all needing new contracts.
One of them will most likely go... but it won't be Jeter!!! Matsui came through big in the last game, but I still think Damon is the better choice...

Matsui either signs for the Yankess or goes back to Japan a national hero. Considering the fact that his knees are shot, I wouldn't be surprised if he went back to Japan.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on November 06, 2009, 12:16:54 AM
LoL.  The Yankees.

I'm so sad that I missed the World Series (not really).
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Superfreakie on November 06, 2009, 12:18:13 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on November 06, 2009, 12:16:54 AM
I'm so sad that I missed the World Series (not really).

You didn't miss anything, it was all a conspiracy.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: fauxpaxfauxreal on November 06, 2009, 12:25:47 AM
Quote from: Superfreakie on November 06, 2009, 12:18:13 AM
Quote from: fauxpaxfauxreal on November 06, 2009, 12:16:54 AM
I'm so sad that I missed the World Series (not really).

You didn't miss anything, it was all a conspiracy.

The Yankees conspire'd to win a World Series?  *gasp*  The drama!
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: G. Augusto on November 06, 2009, 05:10:37 AM
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_13722523?source=most_emailed

QuoteSan Francisco Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum faces pot charges in Washington

By Andrew Baggarly

Giants ace Tim Lincecum faces misdemeanor charges for marijuana possession after he turned over a small amount of the substance during a traffic stop near the Washington-Oregon border on Oct. 30, Washington State police said.

The 2008 Cy Young Award winner also was cited for driving his 2006 Mercedes 74 mph along a 60 mph stretch of Interstate 5 near Hazel Dell, Wash., police said.

After an officer detected the smell of marijuana, the two-time All-Star complied with a request to turn over 3.3 grams of the substance and a pipe from the car's center console. Because the officer did not judge Lincecum to be impaired, he cited him and allowed him to continue.

Lincecum, 25, entered a plea of not guilty through his attorney Monday, according to court records obtained by The Associated Press. He is scheduled to appear in court Dec. 22 and faces fines of $622 for the misdemeanor charges, police said.

Lincecum, a Seattle native, did not return a text message seeking comment. His agent, Rick Thurman, was in contact with Giants officials but also did not return text and phone messages. Giants spokesman Jim Moorehead said the team was "still gathering information and has no comment at this time."

Lincecum's bust is unlikely to impact his career. Recreational drug use is not punishable under Major League Baseball's current testing policy, although any type of drug conviction can lead to more frequent testing for performance enhancers.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on November 06, 2009, 07:30:15 AM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on November 05, 2009, 01:20:55 PM
Quote from: Mr Minor on November 05, 2009, 09:04:25 AM
How do people get excited for the Yankees winning?  I know it's been almost ten years, but doesn't the way the Yanks buy players and such, rather than utilize the farm teams, take the excitement out of the win? 

I heard a great analogy this morning about it.  It's like an old Twilight Zone episode where this dude wishes he would win every pool match he plays.  The problem is, he begins to lose the excitement to the game because he already knows the outcome. 
I kind of feel like this is how Yankee fans should feel.  The excitement isn't in the winning anymore.


Fielders
Derek Jeter-Farm System
Jorge Posada-Farm System
Robby Cano-Farm System
Melky Cabrera-Farm System
Bret Gardner-Farm System


Pitchers:
Mariano Rivera-Farm System
Andy Petite - 1990 MLB draft by Yanks, but went to collage and played with Yanks as a rookie in 1996
Joba Chamberlain-Farm System
Phil Hughes-Farm System
David Robertson-Farm System
Phil Coke-Farm System
Alfredo Aceves-Farm System


I would like to see the age and how much these players played this season.  I would imagine the ones who play are old, the others rarely see time on the field are young and probably will never see significant time.  They will just find a vet player to come in for big money and play a couple seasons.

Quote from: mattstick on November 05, 2009, 01:29:20 PM
Petite was re-signed as a free agent.

So you've listed a small and mostly insignifigant portion of the roster, I guess you've proved the point...?  Also, being able to sign players to big contracts and then absorb them (Carl Pavano, the future AJ Burnett) is the luxury of the huge payroll, not just signing new players and keeping your veterans as they move into big contracts.

Exactly.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on November 06, 2009, 08:39:30 PM
Quote from: Mr Minor on November 06, 2009, 07:30:15 AM
Quote from: Poster Nutbag on November 05, 2009, 01:20:55 PM
Quote from: Mr Minor on November 05, 2009, 09:04:25 AM
How do people get excited for the Yankees winning?  I know it's been almost ten years, but doesn't the way the Yanks buy players and such, rather than utilize the farm teams, take the excitement out of the win? 

I heard a great analogy this morning about it.  It's like an old Twilight Zone episode where this dude wishes he would win every pool match he plays.  The problem is, he begins to lose the excitement to the game because he already knows the outcome. 
I kind of feel like this is how Yankee fans should feel.  The excitement isn't in the winning anymore.


Fielders
Derek Jeter-Farm System
Jorge Posada-Farm System
Robby Cano-Farm System
Melky Cabrera-Farm System
Bret Gardner-Farm System


Pitchers:
Mariano Rivera-Farm System
Andy Petite - 1990 MLB draft by Yanks, but went to collage and played with Yanks as a rookie in 1996
Joba Chamberlain-Farm System
Phil Hughes-Farm System
David Robertson-Farm System
Phil Coke-Farm System
Alfredo Aceves-Farm System


I would like to see the age and how much these players played this season.  I would imagine the ones who play are old, the others rarely see time on the field are young and probably will never see significant time.  They will just find a vet player to come in for big money and play a couple seasons.

Quote from: mattstick on November 05, 2009, 01:29:20 PM
Petite was re-signed as a free agent.

So you've listed a small and mostly insignifigant portion of the roster, I guess you've proved the point...?  Also, being able to sign players to big contracts and then absorb them (Carl Pavano, the future AJ Burnett) is the luxury of the huge payroll, not just signing new players and keeping your veterans as they move into big contracts.

Exactly.
I don't know how you can consider Jeter, Mariano & Petite insignificant or Posada for that matter... and you call it a small portion, but it contains 4 starters in the field, 3 starting pitchers, and our star closer... Petite won 3 games in the playoffs, winning 2 in world series; we don't win without Petite or Mariano or Jeter... The players on this list are far from insignificant...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on November 07, 2009, 08:14:54 AM
^^ I think it's insignificant as it's only 3 players from a list of 11.  True, those guys are on the field, but my original point is they don't utilize the farm system like other teams have to. 

I don't like it, but it's part of the game of baseball.  I can't blame the Yankees for doing what they can to win.  It's the system that is flawed.
The game of baseball is the problem.  Until they fix the problem with using as much money as the team wants to do whatever they want, it won't get better.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Poster Nutbag on November 07, 2009, 03:04:58 PM
Quote from: Mr Minor on November 07, 2009, 08:14:54 AM
^^ I think it's insignificant as it's only 3 players from a list of 11.  True, those guys are on the field, but my original point is they don't utilize the farm system like other teams have to. 

I don't like it, but it's part of the game of baseball.  I can't blame the Yankees for doing what they can to win.  It's the system that is flawed.
The game of baseball is the problem.  Until they fix the problem with using as much money as the team wants to do whatever they want, it won't get better.
4 out of 9 players the Yankees put on the field start every game and on the days when Petite, Joba or Phil Hughes pitch we start 5 out 9 players from our farm system... How many guy's do you think every other team in the playoffs this year start that came from their farm system?? and we definitely utilized Phil Coke and David Robertson out of the bull pen...
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: antelope19 on November 11, 2009, 09:35:23 AM
Woot!  Adam Jones won a Gold Glove!!!!!!   :beers:
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Buffalo Budd on December 14, 2009, 05:00:06 PM
Looks like Halladay is on his way to the Phillies.
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: Mr Minor on December 15, 2009, 11:47:25 AM
SO the Yankees get Granderson and Jackson from the Tigers and we get one of their farm system players.

Another great example of the Yankees using their farm system.   :evil:    :-P
Title: Re: MLB 2009 y'all
Post by: mattstick on December 15, 2009, 11:55:24 AM

There is a MLB Hot Stove thread, this thread should (and will momentarily) be locked.